Coed LLandegla
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Llandegla can seem to be tame if you're used to other routes. Good for local blasts but when you do other trails then Llandegla can be a bit boring.Never put off until tomorrow something that you can do today. 'Cause if you do it today, and like it, the you can do it again tomorrow!!0
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I was surprised it had such a good write up in the magazine. To be honest i wasted 8 hours of my life! Fair play if it was on my doorstep i would ride it quite regular but i won't be returning in a hurry.sdalby wrote:Llandegla can seem to be tame if you're used to other routes. Good for local blasts but when you do other trails then Llandegla can be a bit boring.0 -
Coed Y Brenin & Betws Y Coed are only a few mile further down the road...0
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As above. Both make travelling worth while whereas llandegla is still a little tame and is all over and done before you know it. Dunno if i'd describe it as lame though lol. They are developing the visitors centre and the trails all the time.0
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agree with the above. Good for a slight detour on the way home, not for a special trip!0
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yeah i did the extra 1hr 20 down the road yesterday and it was well worth it at cyb
i did the dragons back and will be returning to do the beast when i get a good window to return
it takes me 4hr round trip to get to cyb
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I like Llandegla...so there :P lol
Caz xx0 -
Alright earl,mystery h wrote:yeah i did the extra 1hr 20 down the road yesterday and it was well worth it at cyb
i did the dragons back and will be returning to do the beast when i get a good window to return
it takes me 4hr round trip to get to cyb
I was at cyb yesterday too. Small world. Was a scorcher.0 -
sparrowlegs78 wrote:I like Llandegla...so there :P
I wanted to like it as I'd heard good things about from others but came away pretty disappointed. I was prepared for the tame-ness (I'd been forewarned that the 'black' was about as hard as the Gisburn blue) but I wasn't prepared for the braking ruts, which were everywhere, pretty substantial and made what should have been fast flowing fun into filling-threatening unpleasantness, or the fact that right at the end, after miles of climbing, we just ended up on the blue and then a road back to the car park! We wondered if we'd maybe missed a sign somewhere but someone in the caff thought they were re-routing the end of the red - to be honest, their time would be better spent fixing up the trails they have got if that's what they're doing.
OTOH, the black sections were fantastic fun (once you got away from the ubiquitous rut) just not really long enough to justify a return trip. CyB on the other hand...It doesn't have to be fun to be fun...0 -
It is probably a let down for a single journey, but maybe you should learn to float over braking bumps instead of complaining about them? This is mountain biking, the trails are never going to be like tarmac.0
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This is my point, the whole ride is like tarmac! We went to CYB last year and would consider returning there. As i stated before this route received rave reviews in MBUK and it's not worth the journey.yeehaamcgee wrote:It is probably a let down for a single journey, but maybe you should learn to float over braking bumps instead of complaining about them? This is mountain biking, the trails are never going to be like tarmac.0 -
clioterus wrote:
This is my point, the whole ride is like tarmac! We went to CYB last year and would consider returning there. As i stated before this route received rave reviews in MBUK and it's not worth the journey.yeehaamcgee wrote:It is probably a let down for a single journey, but maybe you should learn to float over braking bumps instead of complaining about them? This is mountain biking, the trails are never going to be like tarmac.
I feel your frustration you drove for ages through some of the best natural mountain bike territory around to discover that Llandegla is dull. You missed out on brilliant rides in the Clwydian and Berwyn mountains and you could have carried on a bit further and ridden in Snowdonia.
The good thing about Llandegla when it opened was that it was smooth it meant you could absolutely gun it on a hardtail and leave the weekend (If I wasnt here I would be sessioning Whistler) warriors on there 6 inch bouncers for dead uphill and down dale.
Llandegla is basically an overgrown BMX track once you understand this and dont take it too seriously it can be good fun but it isnt worth travelling 2 hours to visit not when you have the Peak on your doorstep.Fig rolls: proof that god loves cyclists and that she wants us to do another lap0 -
-Liam- wrote:
Alright earl,mystery h wrote:yeah i did the extra 1hr 20 down the road yesterday and it was well worth it at cyb
i did the dragons back and will be returning to do the beast when i get a good window to return
it takes me 4hr round trip to get to cyb
I was at cyb yesterday too. Small world. Was a scorcher.
took your advice liam and made a day of it
long day though after doing the dragons back, then the 2hr drive home, but would highly recommend it to anyone on here
ill shout up again when i plan on going back0 -
Briggo wrote:
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I've visited Degla 3 times so far and found the trails quite fun,flat out fun
The Blue is totally uninspiring though and not worth doing.
I did the whinlatter blue yesterday and it had Berms, rollers, small drops etc. All roll able,completely surprised me as most blues contain nothing more than fire road.
Imo Degla needs another 10-18 km trail to make it a better day out for visitors coming from further afield.
I had my first visit to the peaks a month ago and was blown away with intensity and difficulty of some of it compared to the pampered trail centre single track.
Nearly every corner,crossing had umpteen line choices to make you think about where to be on your bike.
I'd suggest to everyone that hasn't, to get out and visit a a true classic natural ride once in a while to put your perception of whats ridable into perspective. 0 -
You'd really struggle to fit another 18K loop in Llandegla forest, though.
Also, I don't think they're in any rush, as the amount of people overloading their carparks, shop and cafe every weekend seems to suggest that those who live closer to it are fine with it.0 -
Never quite understand why Llandegla gets such bad press off some people. Yes its relatively smooth, the black isn't really black and they could do with sorting a proper finish out (I belief thats include in the current development). But its nowhere near tarmac all the way and if you push it hard I think there plenty of entertainment to be had for all buit the very best. I can have a good day riding with my 10 year old daughter or with my brother who's properly fast up and down hill (a racing lap of the black in 58 minutes). I aslo like the caf and It's a great night riding venue during the winter..0
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What's the deal with the finish then?
It used to lead over some great singletrack, round some nice rocky bends, and down a massive step-down leading to the back of the cafe.
Is that not there at all anymore? 0 -
I'm sure it is but with the work they are doing it is easy to take a wrong turn and end up in the carpark which it seems is what alot of people are doing.
Got to say it is all pretty poorly sign posted.0 -
yeehaamcgee wrote:What's the deal with the finish then?
It used to lead over some great singletrack, round some nice rocky bends, and down a massive step-down leading to the back of the cafe.
Is that not there at all anymore?[/quote
Not at the moment, its all closed with the work on the freeride area so the route finishes disappointingly down the blue at the moment. I believe there putting in more single track for the finish of the red which will give it a much better balance.0 -
I almost glad I've spent pretty much all day trying to make my camelbak even remotely sanitary instead of going to Llandegla for a blast then 0
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I live on the doorstep of the Peaks, and whilst they are good its also nice to go and get that quick hit. Llandegla provides that and we make a trip a few times a year to do it. It may not be the Peaks, but the at least the downhill rewards the uphill. As good as the Peaks is you can sometimes come away feeling you've done loads of climbing for not a lot of reward.
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I don't understand why people moan about Llandegla. I did a couple of laps on Sunday mornin and thoroughly enjoyed it. If you love The Peaks, ride The Peaks. I do. But don't ride Llandegla and then complain that its not The Peaks. And on the one hand its like tarmac, but on the other hand its too rutted?
Oh come on. Sounds like route snobbery is alive and well.
I agree its not too challenging, but if you think its dull or boring maybe you should ride faster? I've a mate who complains its boring and coincidently he's either lagging behind or wrapped round a tree.
A ride's a ride. Some are better than others. All of them are worthwhile.0 -
clioterus wrote:... Have we been ruined living near the Peak's?
Short answer: Yes
However, riding in the Peaks (natural rocky trails) is an unfair comparison to Llandegla (smooth man-made trails)
Maybe the review you based your visit on didn't do a good job of describing what the trails at Llandegla are actually like.
If you want fast & flowing, Llandegla may be for you
If you prefer a more technical challenge, you'll probably want to head elsewhere.Earn Cashback @ Wiggle, CRC, Evans, AW Cycles, Alpine Bikes, ProBikeKit, Cycles UK :
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the zoo wrote:I don't understand why people moan about Llandegla. I did a couple of laps on Sunday mornin and thoroughly enjoyed it. If you love The Peaks, ride The Peaks. I do. But don't ride Llandegla and then complain that its not The Peaks. And on the one hand its like tarmac, but on the other hand its too rutted?
Oh come on. Sounds like route snobbery is alive and well.
I agree its not too challenging, but if you think its dull or boring maybe you should ride faster? I've a mate who complains its boring and coincidently he's either lagging behind or wrapped round a tree.
A ride's a ride. Some are better than others. All of them are worthwhile.
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Yeh, that's pretty much what I was thinking... wish I'd read it before posting the first time :-)Earn Cashback @ Wiggle, CRC, Evans, AW Cycles, Alpine Bikes, ProBikeKit, Cycles UK :
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the zoo wrote:I don't understand why people moan about Llandegla. I did a couple of laps on Sunday mornin and thoroughly enjoyed it. If you love The Peaks, ride The Peaks. I do. But don't ride Llandegla and then complain that its not The Peaks. And on the one hand its like tarmac, but on the other hand its too rutted?
Oh come on. Sounds like route snobbery is alive and well.
I agree its not too challenging, but if you think its dull or boring maybe you should ride faster? I've a mate who complains its boring and coincidently he's either lagging behind or wrapped round a tree.
A ride's a ride. Some are better than others. All of them are worthwhile.
You might have moaned had you have done a 220 mile round trip based on a magazine review.
In this case it sounds to me as though the magazine review overly raised the OPs expectations.
I would agree about the ruts, especially the ones just before the first set of black tabletops. I agree that Llandegla is fast and flowing well those ruts/potholes absolutely kill your speed into that section.
In fairness many of the ruts/potholes are a result of the particularly bad winter they endured this year but I'd have thought they would have filled them by now and restored the flow! There's a lot of trail building going on at Llandela at the moment but it seems to be at the expense of some of the original red and black sections.
I'll really look forward to riding there it once its finished.0 -
It;s a MOUNTAIN BIKING trail, and you're complaining about ruts? :shock:0
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Yes cos they're no fun to be had with them, there just annoying.
I don't go to Llanegla because its technically challenging I go there for a quick blast about.
If I want to be challenged then I head towards the bridleways around Capel Curig
To be honest, we get a facility like Llandegla then criticise it when really we should be grateful its there at all.0
