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Thick Tester
Thick Tester Posts: 380
edited June 2010 in Pro race
Per http://www.bikeradar.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12710123 Its on the box.....

Predictions?

Peter Kenneugh
Ben Greenwood
Froome
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  • Hibbs
    Hibbs Posts: 291
    1. Peter Kennaugh
    2. Chris Newton
    3. Wavey Davey Millar.
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    I think Sky might be keen to take the jersey to the Tour, so that'll mean setting it up for Steve Cummings or, more likely, Geraint Thomas.
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  • Hibbs
    Hibbs Posts: 291
    RichN95 wrote:
    I think Sky might be keen to take the jersey to the Tour, so that'll mean setting it up for Steve Cummings or, more likely, Geraint Thomas.

    Is Cummings riding then? Early reports said he wasn't and nor was Wiggins, then they were, then they weren't and now they're back on the start list:

    http://pennineevents.co.uk/Documents/Na ... 20June.pdf

    :?
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Hibbs wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    I think Sky might be keen to take the jersey to the Tour, so that'll mean setting it up for Steve Cummings or, more likely, Geraint Thomas.

    Is Cummings riding then? Early reports said he wasn't and nor was Wiggins, then they were, then they weren't and now they're back on the start list:

    http://pennineevents.co.uk/Documents/Na ... 20June.pdf

    :?

    I have no idea to be honest (I hadn't even looked at the start list and just assumed he was).
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  • shockedsoshocked
    shockedsoshocked Posts: 4,021
    Newton 8)
    "A cyclist has nothing to lose but his chain"

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  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    It's a funny old race.

    Unless the jersey goes to Cavendish, Millar or Wiggins then whoever wins on Sunday is not fit to call themselves the best rider in Britain. Discuss...
  • stefrees
    stefrees Posts: 137
    Kléber wrote:
    It's a funny old race.

    Unless the jersey goes to Cavendish, Millar or Wiggins then whoever wins on Sunday is not fit to call themselves the best rider in Britain. Discuss...

    Hmmm. I'd add a few more to that (cummings, Thomas, etc) but also to win on that course whoever does will deserve it.

    Will be nice to see jersey in the tour mind
  • ju5t1n
    ju5t1n Posts: 2,028
    Sky could work for Cav and have the jersey for the 2011 tour?
  • ju5t1n
    ju5t1n Posts: 2,028
    ju5t1n wrote:
    Sky could work for Cav and have the jersey for the 2011 tour?
    of Italy!
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    Kléber wrote:
    Unless the jersey goes to Cavendish, Millar or Wiggins then whoever wins on Sunday is not fit to call themselves the best rider in Britain. Discuss...

    Well Cavendish, Millar or Wiggins don't race much in Britain do they though :wink:
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  • shockedsoshocked
    shockedsoshocked Posts: 4,021
    Kléber wrote:
    It's a funny old race.

    Unless the jersey goes to Cavendish, Millar or Wiggins then whoever wins on Sunday is not fit to call themselves the best rider in Britain. Discuss...

    Depends. None of them race in Britain, so they wouldn't be the best rider in Britain anyway. The best rider 'from' Britain would probably be more appropriate.
    "A cyclist has nothing to lose but his chain"

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  • Doobz
    Doobz Posts: 2,800
    Full rider list below.. Had to Tinyurl it because they used a comma in the url!! There might be a few riders missing after an epic crash at the tour series last night..

    http://tinyurl.com/2u6c6yr
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  • Thick Tester
    Thick Tester Posts: 380
    Kléber wrote:
    It's a funny old race.

    Unless the jersey goes to Cavendish, Millar or Wiggins then whoever wins on Sunday is not fit to call themselves the best rider in Britain. Discuss...

    Nothing to discuss... Erm... which part of British Championship do you not understand ?

    A wins a win... only this one gives you a jersey, a title and an envelope.. and whoever wins it i'll applaud

    I suppose you were the sort of cretin who sneered at Hamish Haynes when he won the title ?
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Thick Tester wrote:
    I suppose you were the sort of cretin who sneered at Hamish Haynes when he won the title ?
    Who? I've only been following the sport since the late 80s so he's probably before my time.
  • Thick Tester
    Thick Tester Posts: 380
    Kléber wrote:
    Thick Tester wrote:
    I suppose you were the sort of cretin who sneered at Hamish Haynes when he won the title ?
    Who? I've only been following the sport since the late 80s so he's probably before my time.

    I'll assume that you were asleep in 2006... Please try harder Kleber....
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Just teasing, because you sneered at my point :wink:

    I wanted to make the point that we have some genuinely world class riders but often the winner is a secondary rider.

    Looks like Wiggo is riding anyway. The jersey and the title is more honourable if it has been worn by real champions rather than plucky chancers.
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    I would agree with that to some extent in the past. The winner is always deserving but there has often been negative racing towards the few continental based pros. Hopefully now with Sky and with Cervelo having a couple of riders it will stop the top guys getting worked over so much although there are still obviously a few who will be isolated. It would be nice seeing the national jersey in the pro tour races. But if a home based pro wins there'll be no complaints from me as they'll have been the best man on the day.
  • phil s
    phil s Posts: 1,128
    The champion is not necessarily the 'best' rider but the one who wins the championship race. End of.
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Kléber wrote:
    I wanted to make the point that we have some genuinely world class riders but often the winner is a secondary rider.

    It happens in other countries too, though. For example, it would difficult to argue that Ruben Plaza is the best rider from Spain or that Dimitri Champion is indeed a true Champion.
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  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    Absolutely RichN95. I think it's a shame that Contador isn't riding in Spain, just as I think the Belgian colours "belong" on Tom Boonen.

    To others, yes I know how the race is won. I've even ridden it myself :wink:
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    Did you win though? :wink:
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    DNF, clearly leaving a real champion to win. I didn't want to hog the jersey :wink:

    Actually as it happens I got in THE break with the winner, out of stupidity, not tactical awareness. Then punctured and had no support car. It allows me to rue, fisherman style, the one that got away of course... :wink:

    ...not that that would ever happen, unless some freak, biblical style event.
  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    there's some old legs in that list....
    "If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm
  • Hibbs
    Hibbs Posts: 291
    mididoctors wrote:
    there's some old legs in that list....

    260 in fact.
  • Thick Tester
    Thick Tester Posts: 380
    Kléber wrote:
    Just teasing, because you sneered at my point :wink:

    I wanted to make the point that we have some genuinely world class riders but often the winner is a secondary rider.

    Well make the point clearly in future...
    As far as i'm concerned you have little to say and are saying it too loudly for my tastes..

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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    You really do live up to your name don't you? :roll:
  • Thick Tester
    Thick Tester Posts: 380
    andyp wrote:
    You really do live up to your name don't you? :roll:

    Hardly -

    For what is worth.. I started this thread with the intention of it being a decent and thriving discussion about Sundays Championships only for it be turned into a childish bun fight by captain Kleber and a nonsensical argument that only a continenental pro is worthy of winning it.

    . I see an awful lot of trifle posted on here about continental racing, but very little about the thriving domestic scene we have and the talent being developed. The lack of inteliigent comments may reflect a lack of knowledge or a disinterest in the uk scene by members of this board which is a crying shame.

    Having ridden on the roads around the course in the past i believe its perfect for Peter K's strengths, however i'd love to see a local win from the likes of Ben Greenwood or Dan Shand. The roads are painfully narrow in places and it will be easy for the race to become fractured pretty quickly and it will be difficult for riders with mechanicals to get back on

    . My prediction is that a bunch of stickleggers will go from a smaller group with an hour or so to go, and that you'll have a dometic rider on the podium
  • eh
    eh Posts: 4,854
    The list of winners is packed full of the best British riders maybe with the exception of Hamish Hayes (who?). So I find Kleber's point about if it isn't won by a continental pro it is devalued all a bit odd.

    Still wouldn't want to see Ben Greenwood or Ian Stannard win as both are average at best. Fingers crossed Gez will win it.
  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    Thick Tester wrote:

    Hardly -

    For what is worth.. I started this thread with the intention of it being a decent and thriving discussion about Sundays Championships only for it be turned into a childish bun fight by captain Kleber and a nonsensical argument that only a continenental pro is worthy of winning it.

    . I see an awful lot of trifle posted on here about continental racing, but very little about the thriving domestic scene we have and the talent being developed. The lack of inteliigent comments may reflect a lack of knowledge or a disinterest in the uk scene by members of this board which is a crying shame.

    Jesus wept. It's a discussion forum, you have no control over the direction the discussion will take so don't start crying like a baby if it doesn't go in the direction you hoped.

    As for it being a 'childish bun fight' who first resorted to personal insults? I'll give you a clue, it wasn't Klebér.
  • Thick Tester
    Thick Tester Posts: 380
    andyp wrote:
    Thick Tester wrote:

    Hardly -

    For what is worth.. I started this thread with the intention of it being a decent and thriving discussion about Sundays Championships only for it be turned into a childish bun fight by captain Kleber and a nonsensical argument that only a continenental pro is worthy of winning it.

    . I see an awful lot of trifle posted on here about continental racing, but very little about the thriving domestic scene we have and the talent being developed. The lack of inteliigent comments may reflect a lack of knowledge or a disinterest in the uk scene by members of this board which is a crying shame.

    Jesus wept. It's a discussion forum, you have no control over the direction the discussion will take so don't start crying like a baby if it doesn't go in the direction you hoped.

    As for it being a 'childish bun fight' who first resorted to personal insults? I'll give you a clue, it wasn't Klebér.

    Now that i'm back on my chair after being displaced by laughter maybe you could offer an informed opinion on who you think will win... I think we've established that any winner is a worthy winner.

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