Is fabio capello good enough for england?

deptfordmarmoset

RichN95 wrote:

IronHorse100 wrote:

Agreed! So who of the current England squad would get into the Spain team? I'd say Wayne Rooney - on a good day! (maybe as a super sub). That's all.

How many of the Swiss team would get into the Spain squad?

Good point well made, Rich.

tailwindhome

deptfordmarmoset wrote:

RichN95 wrote:

IronHorse100 wrote:

Agreed! So who of the current England squad would get into the Spain team? I'd say Wayne Rooney - on a good day! (maybe as a super sub). That's all.

How many of the Swiss team would get into the Spain squad?

Good point well made, Rich.

It is a good point and illustrates that a weaker team can rise to the occasion and defeat a stronger team, that's what makes football worth watching. They won't do it consistently however. IIRC Northern Ireland beat Spain in qualifying for Euro 2008. Spain won the tournament

My question was posed to illustrate that man for man England aren't a strong team.

Stewie Griffin

So it was quite clearly a lack of Spurs players then.

Dont all thank me at once :roll:

daviesee

Good result.
Better performance.

Still not convinced...............

IronHorse100

RichN95 wrote:

IronHorse100 wrote:

Agreed! So who of the current England squad would get into the Spain team? I'd say Wayne Rooney - on a good day! (maybe as a super sub). That's all.

How many of the Swiss team would get into the Spain squad?

None.

rapid_uphill

How many of the Spanish team would get in the England side? None.

pneumatic

I'm very puzzled. :?

I was in London today while the match was on and put my head around the door of a pub to see the score. 1-0, injury time. So I went on my way, expecting to have the result confirmed by an outbreak of cheering, whooping, clapping and general dancing in the streets. Didn't happen.

I got on the Tube and went to Kings Cross, expecting to be greeted by a riotous assembly. Nothing but glum looking commuters.

I had to check my phone to confirm the score.

How many England fans would get into the Spanish/Italian/New Zealand supporters bus? None.

Aggieboy

pneumatic wrote:

I'm very puzzled. :?

I was in London today while the match was on and put my head around the door of a pub to see the score. 1-0, injury time. So I went on my way, expecting to have the result confirmed by an outbreak of cheering, whooping, clapping and general dancing in the streets. Didn't happen.

I got on the Tube and went to Kings Cross, expecting to be greeted by a riotous assembly. Nothing but glum looking commuters.

I had to check my phone to confirm the score.

How many England fans would get into the Spanish/Italian/New Zealand supporters bus? None.

That's because they'd get on the England supporter's bus.

Stewie Griffin

It's only Slovenia in a group game, not Argentina or Germany in the semi. What's to celebrate, scrapping through a fairly weak group?

tailwindhome

rapid_uphill wrote:

How many of the Spanish team would get in the England side? None.

I get it

None

There not English


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

tailwindhome

Stewie Griffin wrote:

It's only Slovenia in a group game, not Argentina or Germany in the semi. What's to celebrate, scrapping through a fairly weak group?

Jeez man lighten up a bit

If you can't celebrate that could you a least be cheered up that Terry, Rooney and Lampard are in my Fantasy Football team

£50 first prize

C'MON!

pneumatic

Stewie Griffin wrote:

It's only Slovenia in a group game, not Argentina or Germany in the semi. What's to celebrate, scrapping through a fairly weak group?

In that case, why was every page of every newspaper I saw in London today covered from top to toe in anxious speculation about whether Wayne Lampard would pull it off?

If you lot are so arrogant as to regard the group stages as a set of friendlies, why do you get so screwed up about the results???

I am still puzzled.

Stewie Griffin

pneumatic wrote:

Stewie Griffin wrote:

It's only Slovenia in a group game, not Argentina or Germany in the semi. What's to celebrate, scrapping through a fairly weak group?

In that case, why was every page of every newspaper I saw in London today covered from top to toe in anxious speculation about whether Wayne Lampard would pull it off?

If you lot are so arrogant as to regard the group stages as a set of friendlies, why do you get so screwed up about the results???

I am still puzzled.

The printed media believe that we all have flags on our cars & whip all the muppets into a we can do it frenzy. I can't believe the amount of rubbish I read that says we are going to walk it. I never thought that we had much of a chance, there are better teams there. Having said that, its 90 mins (given that we will be in trouble if we go to pens) & if everything clicked on the day then just maybe. We only get screwed up by the results when we dont perform, that's reasonable I think especially when playing poorly and with no zeal against teams that we should take all of the points from. I had the chance to book the afternoon off up until yesterday bit didn't. If it were a knockout game against a bigger team then I would have.

It's football, its not meant to make sense

Edit. I have said before that Spurs are more important to me. I'm chuffed that Defoe scored. I will watch Spurs pre-season friendlies on the net again this year but a world cup group game doesnt warrant the same attention. I don't turn to the back of a paper first to look for news of England even now. I want to see a rumour about who we might be after, at best that maybe King is fit.

COYS 8)

IronHorse100

pneumatic wrote:

Stewie Griffin wrote:

It's only Slovenia in a group game, not Argentina or Germany in the semi. What's to celebrate, scrapping through a fairly weak group?

In that case, why was every page of every newspaper I saw in London today covered from top to toe in anxious speculation about whether Wayne Lampard would pull it off?

If you lot are so arrogant as to regard the group stages as a set of friendlies, why do you get so screwed up about the results???

I am still puzzled.

I think the reaction was one of collective relief - a great bit sigh and exhalation of air and tension. Not a great cause for jubilation, just a re-ignition of hope and some regained pride.

RichN95.

Stewie Griffin wrote:

So it was quite clearly a lack of Spurs players then.

Dont all thank me at once :roll:

I think it was the inclusion of the West Ham captain at the centre of the defence that made the difference (a tactic that worked last time England tried it, I believe).

Ben6899

pneumatic wrote:

Stewie Griffin wrote:

It's only Slovenia in a group game, not Argentina or Germany in the semi. What's to celebrate, scrapping through a fairly weak group?

In that case, why was every page of every newspaper I saw in London today covered from top to toe in anxious speculation about whether Wayne Lampard would pull it off?

If you lot are so arrogant as to regard the group stages as a set of friendlies, why do you get so screwed up about the results???

I am still puzzled.

How are Scotland getting on?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3D16kwXcaM

magicrhodes

Stewie Griffin wrote:

Alladyce or Hodgeson would do for me.

Anyone, I know you were quoting someone else, who suggests that Alladyce should be England manager is a fool. End. Of. Story.

Since 1998 when Beckham, Scholes, Gerrard, Lampard, Owen etal have appeared on the scene we have had English managers, foreign managers, strict managers and more compliant managers. The best we have done is WC QF perhaps it is time to look at the players...

magicrhodes

pneumatic wrote:

Stewie Griffin wrote:

It's only Slovenia in a group game, not Argentina or Germany in the semi. What's to celebrate, scrapping through a fairly weak group?

In that case, why was every page of every newspaper I saw in London today covered from top to toe in anxious speculation about whether Wayne Lampard would pull it off?

If you lot are so arrogant as to regard the group stages as a set of friendlies, why do you get so screwed up about the results???

I am still puzzled.

How are Scotland getting on?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3D16kwXcaM[/quote]

Only the Celts think that the English are arrogant, no England fan truely believes we WILL win the WC, just that we could. We are a country that is predominately football focused with approximately 50m subjects to pick from of which the best regularly play with and against the best players in the world. England SHOULD be able to beat the likes of the group we have played in. That isn't arrogance it is a reasonable opinion

If you believe that the press displays the true feelings of English football fans then you are very much misguided.

Hibbs

RichN95 wrote:

Stewie Griffin wrote:

So it was quite clearly a lack of Spurs players then.

Dont all thank me at once :roll:

I think it was the inclusion of the West Ham captain at the centre of the defence that made the difference (a tactic that worked last time England tried it, I believe).

He'd better do an advert for "the pub" now then.

An advert for "the pub". Not a pub, not The Red Lion, just "the pub". Go down the pub, it'll make you happy. Genius.

Le Commentateur

England lost their chance against Algeria, as the goal the USA scored yesterday relegated England to the following possible sequence:

The team that almost always knocks us out of these tournaments (Germany);
Arguably the best playing team in the tournament at the moment (Argentina);
The pre-tournament favourites (Spain);
The country most experienced at winning the final (Brazil).

I doubt our inconsistent bodgers are going to have the ability (or stamina) for four monster games in a row – it would be like winning all the mountain stages of a Tour de France – so we'll have to hope for a big dollop of luck that others will cause upsets on the way and then subsequently prove as hapless as we were last week.

Stewie Griffin

RichN95 wrote:

Stewie Griffin wrote:

So it was quite clearly a lack of Spurs players then.

Dont all thank me at once :roll:

I think it was the inclusion of the West Ham captain at the centre of the defence that made the difference (a tactic that worked last time England tried it, I believe).

Considering that putting the ball in the net was the problem that a Spurs player resolved, Upson must be there due to some quota as Dawson is a superior defender, any buffoon can see that .

guilliano

Capello is a very good coach.... there is no doubt about that. Whether he can pick a team and coach them to play to the players strengths is in doubt at the moment. He needs to have the bottle to drop either Gerrard or (preferably) Lampard if he is going to carry on with a 4-4-2 system. If that is the case then I'd like to see Milner on the right, Cole on the left with Gerrard and Barry in midfield. Rooney with either Crouch or Defoe up front would allow Rooney a free role to link with Gerrard and dictate play

daviesee

guilliano wrote:

Capello is a very good coach.... there is no doubt about that. Whether he can pick a team and coach them to play to the players strengths is in doubt at the moment. He needs to have the bottle to drop either Gerrard or (preferably) Lampard if he is going to carry on with a 4-4-2 system. If that is the case then I'd like to see Milner on the right, Cole on the left with Gerrard and Barry in midfield. Rooney with either Crouch or Defoe up front would allow Rooney a free role to link with Gerrard and dictate play

Ditto.

It's that obvious you have to question why hasn't he done it yet?

Too many egos to massage?

guilliano

The reason he hasn't done it yet is because he feels (mistakenly, like all before him) that Gerrard and Lampard MUST be played in the team together. It's a crock of poo! The team must be the one that works, regardless of who is thought of as a great player! Look at 1966...... Greaves dropped eventually, THE best goalscorer England had left out for the good of the team. Nobby Stiles played in midfield despite being a defender at club level. Come on Fabio..... have the guts to do what's best for England's chances.

rick_chasey

Given all the faff about 'scroungers' and the like elsewhere in this part of the forum, as well as the hating on the rich for having money, shouldn't the question be:

"Is Fabio Capello good enough to warrant a paycheck that dwarfs all other managers at a World Cup?"

rapid_uphill

Well i did say he was S H I T E

IronHorse100

rapid_uphill wrote:

Well i did say he was S H I T E

what a load of old ferking shite you talk - it's the PLAYERS not the manager.

rapid_uphill

theyre all shite ur shite aswell.

tailwindhome

Well all the talk, excitement, anticipation and worry are over

One fact still remains


You can never trust a psychic octopus

rick_chasey

Capello took a team who didn't qualify for the Euros 2 years ago to a 2nd round exist in the World Cup.


Sounds about right.