Darryl Webster
For those who can't be bothered wading through the CN Clinic forum, he's done some interesting posts over there
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.p ... tcount=216
No idea who he'd be talking about....
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.p ... tcount=216
No idea who he'd be talking about....
Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
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He's made similar posts over on the Cycling Weekly forum in that last couple of years.'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'0
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Be interesting to see if a certain KOM in a certain big tour who may or may not contribute on this forum feels a response is justified
On a lighter note, does anyone else find it amusing that the last edit was to correct spelling mistakes
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iainf72 wrote:For those who can't be bothered wading through the CN Clinic forum, he's done some interesting posts over there
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.p ... tcount=216
No idea who he'd be talking about....
doesn't sky have a no needles policy like Garmin? or do they? I used to buy syringes in france and get injected with B12... can see the temptation...0 -
Why has it taken Webster 20 years to start making these allegations? Is it a case of band wagon jumping or the usual pro not biting the hand that feeds approach?0
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He seems bitter and twisted. It's al heresay and he hasn't got the bottle to name names, just snidely hint at who was involved. Injecting vit B was common back there and is still pretty popular now. I'd guess that the riders were just winding him up as he does have a reputation as a bit of an old woman and would be easy to wind up.0
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Theres not many surprises there - cycling 20 years back was a bit dodgy. Wooo.
I remember the comic saying that theyd seen a rider 'preparing' before a national TT champ. They didnt do anything about it then either. If it were me - I'd be a bit ashamed of myself for not speaking out then.0 -
I had forgotten who he was and had to do back research.
Amazing allegations, but I am not surprised.0 -
I remember him from when I first started out. Think he may have been on the front of either my first BCf or RTTC handbook.
The thing that annoys me with all these pros coming forward with allegations is that none do it while they are still riding and the evidence is fresh. kimmage remains one of the few with the balls to do it while racing. I know they would basically be ending their career but if they feel so strongly about it then that's what they need to do.0 -
Did Kimmage do it while racing - question rather than a statement - I was under the impression he wrote his book after he retired but I may be wrong.
I think the bottom line is pros have too much to lose - and as Webster says if you see race organisers and officials collaborating in covering up tests are you happy to give up your chance of being a pro cyclist to become a footnote in the fight against doping in sport ?
The other thing is of course that they'd be taking down friends and colleagues - how many of us know someone who does some work on the side and avoids tax or some other offence - how many of us have informed on them ? Not many I'd have thought.
it's a hard life if you don't weaken.0 -
It's not a big deal that an old rider was up to no good but it is embarrassing for the rider named in question. The question is not "did they dope", but have they learned the lessons and can they manage young riders today, hopefully they can.0
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There is no proof that anyone took any 'dope'.
Webster has had various personal problems and seems to like raking up innuendo from the past at people who have had successful careers whereas he is now no longer involved in cycling.
From what I understand, he was a bit naive when an amateur and pro and the other riders would take the pi$$ out of him and wind him up. If he is taking about the rider I think he is, then this will be a wind up at Websters expense, even the old pee in a coke can myth.
Daryl did once go around erasing the word gullible from his dictionaries after being tld it was no longer in use so I would take anything I read from him with a large grain of salt.0 -
Tom Butcher wrote:Did Kimmage do it while racing - question rather than a statement - I was under the impression he wrote his book after he retired but I may be wrong.
I think the bottom line is pros have too much to lose - and as Webster says if you see race organisers and officials collaborating in covering up tests are you happy to give up your chance of being a pro cyclist to become a footnote in the fight against doping in sport ?
The other thing is of course that they'd be taking down friends and colleagues - how many of us know someone who does some work on the side and avoids tax or some other offence - how many of us have informed on them ? Not many I'd have thought.
I'm probably wrong (I was just getting into cycling at the time) but I thought Kimmage was pretty much forced into retirement after blowing the whistle. I agree on the whole tax dodging thing etc. but not many of us would then go on to report it once we'd been retired a few years either. My point is more that they come out years later and spill the beans with no real evidence which I can't see the point of as we all know it goes on.0 -
Pross wrote:Be interesting to see if a certain KOM in a certain big tour who may or may not contribute on this forum feels a response is justified
You talkin to me ..................YOU TALKIN TO ME
Taxi Driver 1976
I tried looking on youtube for Ali G's Indahouse interview where he calls the tv interviewer guy's mum a slag after being caught doing something he shouldn't have but I couldn't find it so you'll have to make do with this instead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqZKW1WEVlM0 -
Rodrego Hernandez wrote:There is no proof that anyone took any 'dope'.
Webster has had various personal problems and seems to like raking up innuendo from the past at people who have had successful careers whereas he is now no longer involved in cycling.
From what I understand, he was a bit naive when an amateur and pro and the other riders would take the pi$$ out of him and wind him up. If he is taking about the rider I think he is, then this will be a wind up at Websters expense, even the old pee in a coke can myth.
Daryl did once go around erasing the word gullible from his dictionaries after being tld it was no longer in use so I would take anything I read from him with a large grain of salt.
Reading this thread you seem very defensive, questioning Webster's credibility/character much like Armstrong questioning Landis' credibility/character - is there a reason for this? Just curious.
I read what he wrote, and my 1st thought was 'it doesn't surprise me' (except the bit about the needle sharing).0 -
I've just read his accusations on other forums and have spoken to people who used to race with Daryl and without exception all have said he was a good bike rider but a bit naive and prone to conspiracy theories such as this one.
None of what he says seems particularly believable either but that's just my own opinion.0 -
25 miles 1984/85/86/87
50 miles 1985
Hill Climb 1983/84/85/86
I remember watching him win a Champ 25 down near Ashford, KENT
Vaguely remember a funny little guy without style.
(well if he had style, I would have remembered better)Organiser, National Championship 50 mile Time Trial 19720 -
gotheteeshirt2 wrote:Pross wrote:Be interesting to see if a certain KOM in a certain big tour who may or may not contribute on this forum feels a response is justified
You talkin to me ..................YOU TALKIN TO ME
Taxi Driver 1976
I tried looking on youtube for Ali G's Indahouse interview where he calls the tv interviewer guy's mum a slag after being caught doing something he shouldn't have but I couldn't find it so you'll have to make do with this instead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqZKW1WEVlM
GTTS2, it's a classic... q to Judge Pickles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f39wk4UxqUE0 -
gotheteeshirt2 wrote:Pross wrote:Be interesting to see if a certain KOM in a certain big tour who may or may not contribute on this forum feels a response is justified
You talkin to me ..................YOU TALKIN TO ME
Taxi Driver 1976
I tried looking on youtube for Ali G's Indahouse interview where he calls the tv interviewer guy's mum a slag after being caught doing something he shouldn't have but I couldn't find it so you'll have to make do with this instead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqZKW1WEVlM Based on Daryl's comments maybe a scene from the Untouchables would have been appropriate. I know a good solicitor if you want to reply in a more traditional way 0 -
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I didn't know Nigel Clough was a cyclist.0 -
I've heard better stories off the lads in the cafe, and they actually added the names in.
Didn't Websters own team mates used to ride against him on a regular basis?"A cyclist has nothing to lose but his chain"
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Pross wrote: Based on Daryl's comments maybe a scene from the Untouchables would have been appropriate. I know a good solicitor if you want to reply in a more traditional way
Solicitors :? ....no thanks I've hopefully moved on from needing their help
I was wondering which Untouchables I was alleged to be involved with , the film , the band or the soft furnishings shop in Glasgow :?:
Maybe it's these ones that the Daily Mail have found ..............
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldne ... today.html0 -
I like to think of the peloton back then as being 'The Gang' from Monty Python's Piranha Brothers. I wonder who the actual Piranha Brothers were 0
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Interesting how quickly a few pile in with a bit of the old he's mad / bad / weird / bitter / not very good treatment.0
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There COULD be very good reasons for that ?0
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Pross wrote:I like to think of the peloton back then as being 'The Gang' from Monty Python's Piranha Brothers. I wonder who the actual Piranha Brothers were
doesn't change fact you are probably an absolute nobody most likely0 -
Amazing thread. Love it.
Quick question: How do we know that this Darryl Webster is actually Darryl Webster the rider?
After all, it's not hard to go an assume an identity and do a bit of stirring is it?0 -
Dave_1 wrote:Pross wrote:I like to think of the peloton back then as being 'The Gang' from Monty Python's Piranha Brothers. I wonder who the actual Piranha Brothers were
doesn't change fact you are probably an absolute nobody most likely
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I've never claimed to be a somebody! That's just intended as a light hearted comment based on the comments you here of how the peloton was controlled in an almost Mob like way :roll:0 -
SpaceJunk wrote:Amazing thread. Love it.
Quick question: How do we know that this Darryl Webster is actually Darryl Webster the rider?
After all, it's not hard to go an assume an identity and do a bit of stirring is it?
That's a good point actually. Especially after all of the clarification that was needed for gotthetshirt on here.0
