Journalists

Anonymous
Anonymous Posts: 79,667
edited May 2010 in The bottom bracket
Am I having a late realisation in life or are most journalists w@nkers ? It seemed to me, watching all the coverage of the election, journos and newsteams that they asked inane and inflammatory questions that defied common sense, let alone intelligence.
This coalition government needs support, like it or not, to work and I think the mostly negative views of the press, taking the pi55 and 5hit stirring is detrimental. :evil:

Rant over, I'm off down the newsagents to get the papers. :wink:
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  • Lancslad
    Lancslad Posts: 307
    A late realisation on your part i'm afraid but well better later than never. Its all about the dumbing down they ask inane stupid questions because they think we are all thick and thats all we understand.
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  • tebbit
    tebbit Posts: 604
    'Fraid so, the BBC website ones are pretty bad, they write what they are paid to write, quite often badly
  • ratsbeyfus
    ratsbeyfus Posts: 2,841
    dmclite wrote:
    ...

    Rant over, I'm off down the newsagents to get the papers. :wink:

    I stopped buying newspapers a year or so ago now and don't miss 'em. I get all the news and opinions I need from 'Cake Stop' :wink:


    I had one of them red bikes but I don't any more. Sad face.

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  • guilliano
    guilliano Posts: 5,495
    I'm glad you've finally seen the light.

    All journalists try to stir, slate or sensationalise everything as it's the only way to ensure that their "story" gets used. If what we got was reasoned debate, intelligent argument, and interviews to find out facts then the news wouldn't sell.
  • softlad
    softlad Posts: 3,513
    Lancslad wrote:
    Its all about the dumbing down they ask inane stupid questions because they think we are all thick and thats all we understand.

    That is probably not far from the truth. There is a reason why The Sun is the UK's biggest selling newspaper....

    ps - I used to be a journo... ;)
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    softlad wrote:
    Lancslad wrote:
    Its all about the dumbing down they ask inane stupid questions because they think we are all thick and thats all we understand.

    for the most part, that is probably correct. There is a reason why The Sun is the UK's biggest selling newspaper....

    ps - I used to be a journo... ;)

    What do you do now, Softlad ? Just out of interest ? :)
  • softlad
    softlad Posts: 3,513
    edited May 2010
    dmclite wrote:
    What do you do now, Softlad ? Just out of interest ? :)

    mainly copywriting and a bit of consulting - mostly for commercial clients. I was a journo in the trade sector, so never got involved in turning out bollox for the national press.. ;)
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    softlad wrote:
    dmclite wrote:
    What do you do now, Softlad ? Just out of interest ? :)

    mainly copywriting and a bit of consulting - mostly for commercial clients...

    Cool. 8)
  • phil s
    phil s Posts: 1,128
    I agree with all of this, and I'm a journo. Not for much longer I hope 8)
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    This all came off the back of seeing the Daily Express Journo on have I got news for you last night, she got some stick from the comedian which seemed spot on, the points he was making.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Journos write what people want to read, by and large.

    It's not for nothing the tabloid papers like the express, sun, etc, have much bigger circulations than the broadsheets.
  • softlad
    softlad Posts: 3,513
    Journos write what people want to read, by and large.

    mainly, they adopt whatever editorial style the publisher/proprietor tells them to, according to the relevant political bias or vested interest.....
  • Aggieboy
    Aggieboy Posts: 3,996
    Journos write what people want to read, by and large.

    It's not for nothing the tabloid papers like the express, sun, etc, have much bigger circulations than the broadsheets.

    Is that the same for papers in the Netherlands?
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  • tebbit
    tebbit Posts: 604
    What about the comedy value, of papers like the Mail, take a non-news story and make it into a scare story, they did one about the dangers of organic foods, apparently there is a higher chance of catching food poisoning from an organic lettuce than from a non-organic lettuce, due to the nature of the fertiliser used. However the risk is removed if you wash the lettuce, some c**t got paid for writing that.
  • guilliano
    guilliano Posts: 5,495
    So what the mail were saying was "eat s**t and die!"
  • Homer J
    Homer J Posts: 920
    guilliano wrote:
    So what the mail were saying was "eat s**t and die!"

    :lol::lol:
  • finchy
    finchy Posts: 6,686
    tebbit wrote:
    What about the comedy value, of papers like the Mail, take a non-news story and make it into a scare story,

    What, you mean like this one?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -buzz.html
  • tebbit
    tebbit Posts: 604
    Ministry of the obvious from the Mail again, pouring vodka into your eye not exactly the brightest of ideas, they used to have a slogan "good reading always shows", I even met someone who thought the Mail was a good paper. An advertising campaign based on we are a good paper and people will think you are intelligent if you read it.
  • mm1
    mm1 Posts: 1,063
    "The relationship between truth and a newspaper is like the relationship between the colour green and the number seven. Occasionally you will see the number seven written in green, but you learn not to expect this." Garrison Keiller

    We now have an Education Secretary who is a journalist and PM who supposedly "earned" a living as a PR - God help us!
  • Frank the tank
    Frank the tank Posts: 6,553
    dmclite wrote:
    This all came off the back of seeing the Daily Express Journo on have I got news for you last night, she got some stick from the comedian which seemed spot on, the points he was making.

    I quite fancied her. She just had something about her that made me think I bet you love it. :twisted:

    The comedian sat with Merton was very incisive with his comments sharp and amusing.

    Dmclite, I'm supprised it's taken so long for the penny to drop with you, You've always struck me as having your finger on the pulse, and being nobody's fool.
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  • Aggieboy
    Aggieboy Posts: 3,996
    dmclite wrote:
    This all came off the back of seeing the Daily Express Journo on have I got news for you last night, she got some stick from the comedian which seemed spot on, the points he was making.

    I quite fancied her. She just had something about her that made me think I bet you love it. :twisted:

    The comedian sat with Merton was very incisive with his comments sharp and amusing.

    Dmclite, I'm supprised it's taken so long for the penny to drop with you, You've always struck me as having your finger on the pulse, and being nobody's fool.

    He only realised when it became apparent on TV, as he can't read! :lol:

    Frank's byyrd..........


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  • Frank the tank
    Frank the tank Posts: 6,553
    She should be so lucky. :lol:

    I bet she still loves it. :wink:
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  • softlad
    softlad Posts: 3,513
    looks like Julia Hartley-Brewer.....she'd eat you alive....
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    dmclite wrote:
    This all came off the back of seeing the Daily Express Journo on have I got news for you last night, she got some stick from the comedian which seemed spot on, the points he was making.

    I quite fancied her. She just had something about her that made me think I bet you love it. :twisted:

    The comedian sat with Merton was very incisive with his comments sharp and amusing.

    Dmclite, I'm supprised it's taken so long for the penny to drop with you, You've always struck me as having your finger on the pulse, and being nobody's fool.

    I know Frank. I don't usually read a lot of papers, maybe the Times or Guardian at the weekend. Just, for the first time I really took an interest in the election and the coverage was shocking. I, despite what some may think, am pretty much an optimist and try and see the best in anything before the worst. She made my skin crawl and I just thought if they are all like her well thats it, I have seen the light.
    I always had a bit of trouble with the journalist prizes and awards, felt very vouyeristic and parasitical, filming misery and getting awards for it. Kevin Carters legacy was that he could not live with his memories and work and topped himself months after winning a Pulitzer for the Sudan picture. I think journos may have too much power or sway where public opinion can be manipulated so easily.

    BTW, i value your views, opinion and rhetoric frank, but she is a moose. :D
  • Le Commentateur
    Le Commentateur Posts: 4,099
    Times have changed since the days of Fleet Street. Journos nowadays get into the papers by knowing the right people and (usually) having an Oxbridge education. The traditional route was through a stint on provincial papers, learning the skills before moving on into London, but most local papers now are freebees produced on cut-throat budgets, owned by a small number of sharks who pay peanuts. Few ambitious graduates are going to waste time with that, assuming of course they haven't been lured away into the finance industry instead.
  • softlad
    softlad Posts: 3,513
    Times have changed since the days of Fleet Street. Journos nowadays get into the papers by knowing the right people and (usually) having an Oxbridge education. The traditional route was through a stint on provincial papers, learning the skills before moving on into London, but most local papers now are freebees produced on cut-throat budgets, owned by a small number of sharks who pay peanuts. Few ambitious graduates are going to waste time with that, assuming of course they haven't been lured away into the finance industry instead.

    I know of plenty who have worked up through the trade media and then gone into the nationals as technology, defence, or other specialist correspondents. There's still room in the nationals for good hacks, despite the 'old school tie' issues..

    Ironically, tabloids like The Sun have a history of employing some very good, very clever writers - believe it or not, turning out news in the Sun's style of politically or socially-charged nonsense is remarkably difficult... ;)
  • simonaspinall
    simonaspinall Posts: 645
    Hartley-Brewer: Guilty Pleasure.

    She'd be pure filth MILF - Like most posh birds she probably has years of built-up stiff upper lip frustration to lose. :wink:

    I do hate the mail so much it's just becoming amusing looking at it now - Everyone needs a nemesis and the mail never fails to provide me with something to rally against.
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Hartley-Brewer: Guilty Pleasure.

    She'd be pure filth MILF - Like most posh birds she probably has years of built-up stiff upper lip frustration to lose. :wink:

    I do hate the mail so much it's just becoming amusing looking at it now - Everyone needs a nemesis and the mail never fails to provide me with something to rally against.

    My mum and dad get the mail, drives them potty. Its like being addicted to a drug that makes you angry and self righteous at the same time. I usually get a phone call about sunday tea-time after she has digested the contents of the Mail on Sunday, festered and then lets rip down the phone to me. Going to get a gun and shoot her if she doesn't stop soon.
  • simonaspinall
    simonaspinall Posts: 645
    Chapeau to Chris Addison for his onslaught on HIGNFY last week.
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  • bails87
    bails87 Posts: 12,998
    Read this!
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