Some people are just beyond selfish

asprilla

MadammeMarie wrote:

Kurako wrote:

The Beginner wrote:

NIMBYism at its British best!

Simon

Oi! Stop trying to claim Scottish NIMBYs as your own you southern softy :-)

Ok, I tried and tried to work it out but failed. Can you please explain to this southern - and foreign - softy what NIMBY means? 8)

Not In My Back Yard.

The kind of person who would be happy to have wind turbines because they were good for the environment, right up until you tell them they will be able to see the turbines from their back garden, at which point the become vociferously anti wind power.

MadammeMarie

Thank you both whyamhere and Aspirilla!

wgwarburton

suzyb wrote:

Wallace1492 wrote:

Jay dubbleU wrote:

Having seen the route I can't believe a million pounds worth of traffic uses those roads in a month, never mind in 4 hours. Best of luck to those taking part - weather is looking good for the weekend 8)

Weather looking good.... hmmmm. Report I saw was talking about scattered rain, with intermissions of "wintery" showers. At least it should keep the midges at bay!

This is Scotland so it will probably be both

The radio mentioned snow lying in Shotts this morning... snow showers are certainly possible! Still, light winds forecast at the moment (which suits me, as I'm teaching eight-year-olds to sail this weekend!!!).

Cheers,
W.

Wallace1492

The other thing that pisses me off about this is that there are a lot of accommodation places that will only let you stay 3 nights. I am travelling up from Glasgow, and would only want Saturday night somewhere, but will now just travel on the day (4am start) rather than pay for two nights I do not want. the locals are complaining about road closures, then milking it for all its worth.

The additional pain in the back side is that the organisers want me to register on the Friday or Saturday, but not on the day (can understand that as registering 3,500 before 7am would be difficult) but it means I may have to drive up and back to Pitlochry twice!! What a waste of time, petrol and money from me.

If I had known all this up front, I may not have entered!!

kurako

http://www.thecourier.co.uk/output/2010 ... 1595t0.asp

He (Peter Hounam of ACRE) said, “It is now time for Perth and Kinross to support local initiative rather a multinational concern based in the south of England.

I think this statement tells a lot about the Mr Hounam's world view.

suzyb

WGWarburton wrote:

suzyb wrote:

Wallace1492 wrote:

Jay dubbleU wrote:

Having seen the route I can't believe a million pounds worth of traffic uses those roads in a month, never mind in 4 hours. Best of luck to those taking part - weather is looking good for the weekend 8)

Weather looking good.... hmmmm. Report I saw was talking about scattered rain, with intermissions of "wintery" showers. At least it should keep the midges at bay!

This is Scotland so it will probably be both

The radio mentioned snow lying in Shotts this morning... snow showers are certainly possible! Still, light winds forecast at the moment (which suits me, as I'm teaching eight-year-olds to sail this weekend!!!).

Cheers,
W.

Yeah but Shotts can be snowed in when everywhere else doesn't have a flake. Cold, windy place that it is.

Wallace do you have to stay somewhere organised. Could you not just find somewhere to park your car and sleep in the back.

kelsen

suzyb wrote:

Wallace do you have to stay somewhere organised. Could you not just find somewhere to park your car and sleep in the back.

I heard there are wee sleekit cow'rin tim'rous beasties prowling about the Highlands...

Wallace1492

kelsen wrote:

suzyb wrote:

Wallace do you have to stay somewhere organised. Could you not just find somewhere to park your car and sleep in the back.

I heard there are wee sleekit cow'rin tim'rous beasties prowling about the Highlands...

Well, choice is:
Try and sleep in car - probably not get any sleep, still be up early, sore arms and legs.

Rough Camp - have to be a bit away from Pitlochry, still be up early (5ish) have to pack away tent and associated gubbings, potential rain, hail, snow. Not a great sleep either.

Stay in own bed, get up early and drive there.

Hard choice, but will go with third option!

Big Wib

Wallace1492 wrote:

kelsen wrote:

suzyb wrote:

Wallace do you have to stay somewhere organised. Could you not just find somewhere to park your car and sleep in the back.

I heard there are wee sleekit cow'rin tim'rous beasties prowling about the Highlands...

Well, choice is:
Try and sleep in car - probably not get any sleep, still be up early, sore arms and legs.

Rough Camp - have to be a bit away from Pitlochry, still be up early (5ish) have to pack away tent and associated gubbings, potential rain, hail, snow. Not a great sleep either.

Stay in own bed, get up early and drive there.

Hard choice, but will go with third option!

There are still some rooms available if you go a bit further afield. I've just cancelled a room at the Angus Hotel in Blairgowrie as a mate has just said he has a room in an apartment.

@suzyb - are you doing the etape as well?

suzyb

No, not this year. When signups opened I didn't think I was quite ready for that kind of distance/speed.

Wallace1492

I am not annoyed I cannot get accomodation, as there are other factors that dictate it will be most practical to drive there in the morning. My point was that places were making you book for 3 nights when you would only want 1. And that the organisers seem to be making me travel to Pitlochry to register the day before, when I would find it was a wated journey just to do that.

I think it suits me more to drive up on th day, but seem to be forced into going there the day before and paying for 3 nights!!

Big Wib

Wallace1492 wrote:

I am not annoyed I cannot get accomodation, as there are other factors that dictate it will be most practical to drive there in the morning. My point was that places were making you book for 3 nights when you would only want 1. And that the organisers seem to be making me travel to Pitlochry to register the day before, when I would find it was a wated journey just to do that.

I think it suits me more to drive up on th day, but seem to be forced into going there the day before and paying for 3 nights!!

I can understand the registration the day before as they have 4500 of us to get through but I can see how that would be annoying for you. For us non-locals we would have to be up the day before anyway.

I agree though that 3 nights is taking the p*ss and I couldn't get into a number of places because of it.

@suzyb - last year there was a 2 hour rest break in the middle so you would have been fine :roll:

I was almost optimistic about this year despite my lack of training but the continued guff coming from ACRE is worrying me slightly

Wallace1492

Right, I am all sorted now. Got accomodation just outside Pitlochry from a nice man on the Sportives board, and only need to pay/stay 1 night. Well within cycling distance in the morning. Be getting up about 6 instead of 4! Also means I can register on the evening before. All happy now.....

Please ARCE, no tacks!!

kelsen

That's great news Wallace. I'll make sure I say hi if I see a bloke on a Tricross on sunday!

suzyb

Wallace1492 wrote:

Right, I am all sorted now. Got accomodation just outside Pitlochry from a nice man on the Sportives board, and only need to pay/stay 1 night. Well within cycling distance in the morning. Be getting up about 6 instead of 4! Also means I can register on the evening before. All happy now.....

Please ARCE, no tacks!!

doogee

Wallace,

I have found myself with the same predicament, the lad I was expecting to do this with has had to pull out and with him has gone my accommodation (his caravan). I too don't fancy the double hit on fuel and time to drive up on both days from Glasgow.

I noticed your post about a nice man on the sportive thread so went to have a look and have pm'd him, I now await a response! Fingers crossed...

Wallace1492

doogee wrote:

Wallace,

I have found myself with the same predicament, the lad I was expecting to do this with has had to pull out and with him has gone my accommodation (his caravan). I too don't fancy the double hit on fuel and time to drive up on both days from Glasgow.

I noticed your post about a nice man on the sportive thread so went to have a look and have pm'd him, I now await a response! Fingers crossed...

Well, all the best. Seemed to have a couple of spaces. All going well, may be having a beer with you tomorrow night!!

doogee

Wallace1492 wrote:

doogee wrote:

Wallace,

I have found myself with the same predicament, the lad I was expecting to do this with has had to pull out and with him has gone my accommodation (his caravan). I too don't fancy the double hit on fuel and time to drive up on both days from Glasgow.

I noticed your post about a nice man on the sportive thread so went to have a look and have pm'd him, I now await a response! Fingers crossed...

Well, all the best. Seemed to have a couple of spaces. All going well, may be having a beer with you tomorrow night!!

Hopefully! Just need to wait and see, dunno what I'll do if i can't get accomodation tbh.

Wallace1492

doogee wrote:

Wallace1492 wrote:

doogee wrote:

Wallace,

I have found myself with the same predicament, the lad I was expecting to do this with has had to pull out and with him has gone my accommodation (his caravan). I too don't fancy the double hit on fuel and time to drive up on both days from Glasgow.

I noticed your post about a nice man on the sportive thread so went to have a look and have pm'd him, I now await a response! Fingers crossed...

Well, all the best. Seemed to have a couple of spaces. All going well, may be having a beer with you tomorrow night!!

Hopefully! Just need to wait and see, dunno what I'll do if i can't get accomodation tbh.

Well, my choices were to wild camp, maybe not the best, especially if it was a tad rainy, or to get up early, roughly about 4am and drive up. I had spoken to one of the organisers who said that I could register in the morning before the ride to save driving up the day before. However, all sorted now... hope you get a result!

doogee

hope you get a result!

Just had a reply, bunk available. Happy boy now!! So thank you for your earlier post. Guess I'll be seeing you tomorrow evening then!!

Kieran_Burns

If you two guys come back on here Monday with blank periods and sore bottoms, don't say I didn't warn you

kelsen

Aah...the beauty of the internet! One minute you're chatting with a complete stranger, next minute you're sharing a (bunk) bed with them!

UndercoverElephant

Kieran_Burns wrote:

If you two guys come back on here Monday with blank periods and sore bottoms, don't say I didn't warn you

Why, are you doing the Étape too?

Wallace1492

kelsen wrote:

Aah...the beauty of the internet! One minute you're chatting with a complete stranger, next minute you're sharing a (bunk) bed with them!

Hopefully wont be actually sharing the same bed.... Maybe sharing the same roof.
And yes, on Monday will be walking funny, with a sore bottom. Hopefully without a puntured tube though....

Wallace1492

doogee wrote:

hope you get a result!

Just had a reply, bunk available. Happy boy now!! So thank you for your earlier post. Guess I'll be seeing you tomorrow evening then!!

Excellent stuff. I am thinking Guinness may be the correct pre - Etape beverage. Full of nutrients and goodness. Any other recomendations?

daviesee

Wallace1492 wrote:

doogee wrote:

hope you get a result!

Just had a reply, bunk available. Happy boy now!! So thank you for your earlier post. Guess I'll be seeing you tomorrow evening then!!

Excellent stuff. I am thinking Guinness may be the correct pre - Etape beverage. Full of nutrients and goodness. Any other recomendations?

Beer is better than water

http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/3467

Allegedly!

Jay dubbleU

Kieran_Burns wrote:

If you two guys come back on here Monday with blank periods and sore bottoms, don't say I didn't warn you

Only you could realise that the effect of riding sportives is the same as being abducted by aliens

Wallace1492

doogee wrote:

hope you get a result!

Just had a reply, bunk available. Happy boy now!! So thank you for your earlier post. Guess I'll be seeing you tomorrow evening then!!

Good to meet you doogee, hope my "alleged" snoring didn't put you off too much for the ride. Really enjoyed it and exceeded my expectations..... I am a happy bunny... Roll on next year!!