Belgian Beer

pneumatic
pneumatic Posts: 1,989
edited October 2010 in The bottom bracket
Advice Please!

The minor Pneumatics are going away on a school trip and Mrs Pneumatic and I are taking the chance of an ankle-bite free trip to Flanders (woo-hoo!)

Mrs Pneumatic will be taking the opportunity to sample a range of unrealistically expensive chocolate products. I am thinking of making a connoisseur's survey of Belgian Beer:

So: where should I start and what will be the pinnacle of my adventure?

(I already know Duvel, Chimay and, of course, Stella Artois - although I don't intend to consume a single sip of that latter mass produced Eurobelch)


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  • nicensleazy
    nicensleazy Posts: 2,310
    I love Westmalle Trappist....one of the very best !
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Leffe (brun or blond...) on draught. Boodiful!
    Hoegaarden on draught. Boodiful!

    Much nicer than the stuff here...
  • andy_f
    andy_f Posts: 474
    Leffe = 'orrible, like drinking marmite cordial.
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  • ANDY F wrote:
    Leffe = 'orrible, like drinking marmite cordial.

    +1 - not my cup of tea.

    However, I do remember some lovely, and far to easily consumed strawberry beer a while ago. I'm surprised I remember it actually, don't remember much else after drink it!!!
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  • millar time
    millar time Posts: 392
    I would start with Grimbergen (A good morning beer), work my way through Orval and end up with Rochefort. A word of warning; consumption of more than 3 or 4 of the above may impair your ability to watch any of the Ronde... or do anything useful at all.
  • crumbschief
    crumbschief Posts: 3,399
    Oh plenty,there are many and alot of styles too,best to try a variety in small amounts if you can,lambic,stout,wit,spice,fruit,depends on your taste and what you fancy trying really,best to keep it simple and get into a bar or cafe and look at the list.I hope this can help a bit for places. http://www.ratebeer.com/places/countries/23/
  • Lagavulin
    Lagavulin Posts: 1,688
    I do like Duvel and Leffe blonde (not a fan of the brun). Only problem being it gets me absolutely trolleyed and very, very quickly.

    I like it but I'd much rather sup several Cumberland, Cockerhoop or Alnwick IPA.
  • pneumatic
    pneumatic Posts: 1,989
    Excellent, thanks people. I shall compile a careful route map in the expectation of ending up just short of wildly trolleyed! Grimbergen for breakfast sounds like a grand depart, I just need to be sure I'm still in touch with the breakaway group for a trappist sprint finish!

    Mrs P is now miffed that I didn't ask about chocolate recommendations. Godiva springs to mind; otherwise I am at a loss.


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  • RonB
    RonB Posts: 3,984
    Hoegaarden Verboden Vrucht (Forbidden Fruit) beer might be a good ending.

    At 9% I sure wouldn't want to start with one!
  • pneumatic
    pneumatic Posts: 1,989

    Mrs P will be forever in your debt (and I am looking forward to the collateral advantage!).


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  • If you ever need something a little lighter to see you through to (or through) your lunch, try Pelforth. It's impeccable, although more of a Paris-Roubaix drink than a Flanders one
  • For unbelievable quality go for Trappiste Rochefort 10 - Absolutely mind-blowing punch around the face yumminess which can only really be expressed by comparing it to how Boris Johnson must feel when giving a speech. You'll never drink another beer again and be satisfied.

    http://www.beersofeurope.com/ (Go to on-line shop > Belgium > Trappiste Rochefort > 3rd Beer down)

    Seriously - TrappyRoch 10 + Olives, Antipasti and the love of a buxom woman!

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  • eskimo Joe
    eskimo Joe Posts: 764
    Have a Kwak , its in a glass like a yard of ale with its own woodedn holder , and you have to give up one of your shoes as a deposit until you hand the glass back .
    Another one for Westmalle Dubbel my favoutite
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  • Leffe is OK, but once you've had something better it will seem a bit bland. Not as bland as UK lagers though.

    If you can find them have a taste of Gulden Draak (a fruity brown ale), Judas (awesome), Adriaen Brouwer Dark Gold, Westmalle (better than Leffe IMO)... also the oddly named Gordon Finest Gold (a sweetish full-bodied malty brew, and indeed very golden in colour).

    You can also get gift packs, usually a pair or quartet of bottles plus the particular design of glass that they get served in at the bars: the hilarious but delicious Kwak has a glass that resembles a mad scientist's flask in a wood frame that doubles as a handle*; the aptly named "Delerium Tremens" (9%, made by the oldest brewery in Gent) is served in a tulip goblet dotted with little pink elephants:

    Delirium_Tremens_Glass.jpg


    (*as if you drink too many you will undergo a Jekyl & Hyde-like transformation into some crazed sub-human beast)
  • tlw1
    tlw1 Posts: 22,153
    NapoleonD wrote:
    Leffe (brun or blond...) on draught. Boodiful!
    Hoegaarden on draught. Boodiful!

    Much nicer than the stuff here...

    +1 with happy memories of doing the classic poppy rally in Ypres last year!

    It also resulted in being away for mothers day guilt & resulted in £50+ of chocolate :(
  • daviesee
    daviesee Posts: 6,386
    While in Brugge, I often enjoyed a Grimbergen.

    The beer produced in Brugge, Zot, was very refreshing on a warm summers day.
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  • Leffe blonde, Duvel. The former is very distictive 'marmite' taste, the latter is deceptively powerful, more dangerous than Carlsberg's Elephant beer!
  • Chip \'oyler
    Chip \'oyler Posts: 2,323
    Tripel Karmeliet is very good
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  • Nuggs
    Nuggs Posts: 1,804
    As has already been mentioned, Kwak's a great beer.

    Bacchus Frambozenbier (raspberry) and Kreikenbier (cherry) are fantastic tipples and make great aperitifs.

    Maredsous 10 (same brewery as Duval) and Leffe Triple are great, but at 10%ish are a lot like being punched in face but in a good way.

    Try to see if you can find some Rodenbach Grand Cru. It's a Sour Red Beer and they tend to be like Marmite (not in taste, I mean you either love or hate them) - I love them!

    Happy drinking

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  • 58585
    58585 Posts: 207
    You should really try and sample all the trappist beers, preferably in one sitting :wink:
    Or if you want to actually catch the ferry back, try at least one blonde, one dubbel, one tripel, a strong dark ale and a lambic.
    Definitely worth a try: Achel blonde, Rochefort 10, St Bernardus 12, anything Cantillion
    Try and track down a Westvleteren, but you might need to book an appointment at the monastery...
  • pneumatic
    pneumatic Posts: 1,989
    Now this is getting serious! So many beers, so little time. Hmm. Maybe I should do some training today! :D


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  • meanredspider
    meanredspider Posts: 12,337
    Can't believe Corsendonk hasn't been mentioned. I stayed at the Monestary whilst doing a project management training course - lovely straight from the barrel.

    My advice is to go for variety - I love Leffe myself but Grimbergen or any number of others would do fine. 3 years living in Brussels gave me plenty of time to learn about beer. Now I'm living in the Highlands, I'm learning about Scotch - it's a dirty job....
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  • You do realise you'll get back to England and not be able to drink in an English pub and be satisfied ever again
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  • Dunk_911
    Dunk_911 Posts: 239
    I reckon your best bet is to get to a pub and try all of the stuff you have never heard of, thats what I did.

    Kwak sticks in my head as a good bet though.
  • pneumatic
    pneumatic Posts: 1,989
    You do realise you'll get back to England and not be able to drink in an English pub and be satisfied ever again

    The damage is already done. I spent some time in Bavaria in my youth. My heart sinks most times I enter a British pub. there are some notable exceptions, however,

    My local serves a fine pint of Deuchars IPA (we insist upon it).

    On my travels, I am also particularly fond of:

    the Bow Bar, Victoria Street, Edinburgh (magnificent place to sip really good beer and, once a year, also watch the nocturne series cycle racing as it is half way up the steepest cobbled climb)

    the Swan, West Peckham, Kent (microbrewery of considerable merit)


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  • Nuggs
    Nuggs Posts: 1,804
    You do realise you'll get back to England and not be able to drink in an English pub and be satisfied ever again
    Hold on a minute, let's not get silly here.

    Yes, Belgian beer is great but there are some FINE British beers as well. They're all different and there are times when only a good British pint hits the mark.

    Let's embrace the diversity and enjoy all the beers on this Earth!
  • guinea
    guinea Posts: 1,177
    In Brugges they have a tourist bar/museum/shop thing that has every single Belgian beer.

    Go. Even if it's just to take photos.
  • My nearest offy does all six trappist ales (excluding the virtually unobtainable Westvleteren - but substitutes it with Sint Barnardus 8 and 10), and all the regular Grimbergens, Krieks and lambics. I am truly blessed.

    Westmalle dubbel with its fruity nose (it has a hint of bananas) is probably my everyday drinker, with Rochefort 10 my tipple-of-choice for high days and holidays.

    When I can afford to move out of my poky garrett, first on the list of must-have features will be a cellar, so that I can start trying to brew my own trappist-like beers. Or maybe I should just move to Belgium.