Vittoria Open Pave Evo CG
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Another fan.
Put them on ready for Flanders next week. Probably done 500k on them.
- they roll great (hard to tell if as good as Pro3, but close)
- grip is perfect. Feel so confident
- comfort very noticeable. Really smooth ride.
I've got a feeling they might not last that long, but they are very, very good.
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they are definitely not for commuting. they cut up really bad... my rear tyre has 4 large cuts after less than 400km in London... got a puncture this weekend in Surrey. They are really nice and smooth and roll beautifully but probably not suitable for UK roads. they are coming off.Ridley Fenix SL0
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I've been running my Open Paves on my Amsterdam commute for nearly two years now - not a single puncture in that time despite plenty of cosmetic cuts in the outer compound (there's loads of broken glass). The only downside is that they wear quickly. The outer compound is obviously "soft' but that's exactly what you'd expect for wet grip.ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH0
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one of the "cuts" is sufficiently large to warrant some caution. and the puncture at the weekend was due to a very small thorn going through. I will keep them for next spring or summer ...Ridley Fenix SL0
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I've really persisted with mine for two springs now. They look like swiss cheese and I can't use them with latex tubes any more because the cotton carcass is cut too, and the tube wants to escape to the atmosphere causing many a puncture. I could use them with butyl tubes but the glory of open paves with latex tubes is just too much to consider anything less. Definitely not a commuting tyre for my commute at least. Will consider tubelessifying them as an experiment
Shand Skinnymalinky
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5 years later! blimey that's good going
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My two cents are:
Used them for commuting for about 1800km including the Tour de Yorkshire where the rain was pouring down before I got to the start and they are brilliant. Half of the distance was in London and although I can see some minor cuts there is nothing serious big one there. I can see the rear thread disappearing but I would expect that with most of the tires. I used the 25mm version but as they started to wore them down quick in the "hot" summer I put them aside to wait for the bad/wet weather.
Had Conties before but as they slipped a few times on uphill efforts I'm not really favouring them these days.
If you have an issue with big cuts then just stick a thick patch on the inside of the tire, it usually holds the sides nicely together preventing the inner tube to climb out.
You will haty me for this but if you don't like the green one (which I love) then get a pair of black ones!!
Evans has them just a shade over £30 in full black.
I tend to ride reasonably fast, out of gutter and avoiding potholes/rubbish as much as I can.0 -
5 years later! blimey that's good going
The old threads are the best. The tyres have probably changed 4 times since the thread started ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH0 -
two flats on the way home this evening. I can't wait to take these cr&p tyres off.Ridley Fenix SL0
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two flats on the way home this evening. I can't wait to take these cr&p tyres off.
I had some a few year's ago, they were fuggin shocking. Flatted all the time.Merckx EMX 5
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took them this morning. luckily I have a Rubino Pro and a Vredestein that I can use. When I inspected both of these there were hardly any cuts even though they had thousands of kms on them. my advise to anyone thinking of buying Open Paves is don't think of using them as a commuting tyre. great ride and everything but not worth it.Ridley Fenix SL0
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I doubt Open Paves have ever been sold as a "commuting" tyre.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
@fat_tail As I said above, I disagree - my experience has been very good.
As per many tyre threads, individual experiences need to be treated with care. For instance, I think GP4000S are puncture magnets - others' experiences are different.ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH0 -
I have to agree with MRS: I also think you are only sitting on a very thin rubber, I want to have the most reliable option I can get within the reasonable cost bracket.As I said above, I disagree - my experience has been very good.
I rather change the tires every 1-2 seasons then slipping once.0 -
I doubt Open Paves have ever been sold as a "commuting" tyre.
^this^Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.0 -
I doubt Open Paves have ever been sold as a "commuting" tyre.
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true - it is simply not suitable for any activity where there is contact with anything less than a perfect surface. those paves must be cleaned with toothpicksRidley Fenix SL0 -
I doubt Open Paves have ever been sold as a "commuting" tyre.
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true - it is simply not suitable for any activity where there is contact with anything less than a perfect surface. those paves must be cleaned with toothpicks
Well, more than this, it's a race tyre. In the same way that you wouldn't expect a Pro Peleton bike to have features for racks and guards and be parked in the company outdoor bike rack, I'm not sure why you'd expect an out-and-out race tyre (effectively the same construction, as I understand it, as the tub) to deal with the crap of a city centre commute? Unfortunately in this life you can rarely have everything: fast, light and very grippy is paid for by less robustness. I've been pleasantly surprised by how it has performed on the streets of what must be one of Europe's party capitals - broken green glass is everywhere. I certainly don't begrudge them the cuts in the outer compound.ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH0 -
I doubt Open Paves have ever been sold as a "commuting" tyre.
^this^
true - it is simply not suitable for any activity where there is contact with anything less than a perfect surface. those paves must be cleaned with toothpicks
Well, more than this, it's a race tyre. In the same way that you wouldn't expect a Pro peloton bike to have features for racks and guards and be parked in the company outdoor bike rack, I'm not sure why you'd expect an out-and-out race tyre (effectively the same construction, as I understand it, as the tub) to deal with the crap of a city centre commute? Unfortunately in this life you can rarely have everything: fast, light and very grippy is paid for by less robustness. I've been pleasantly surprised by how it has performed on the streets of what must be one of Europe's party capitals - broken green glass is everywhere. I certainly don't begrudge them the cuts in the outer compound.
http://road.cc/content/buyers-guide/68578-buyers-guide-best-tyres-get-you-through-winter
stupid road cycling journos would lead one to think that the Open Pave is a great winter tyre
[q] An expensive choice but many swear by the venerable Open Pave CG for riding through the winter. It's an exceptionally good tyre and has been a favourite for pro cyclists in races like Paris-Roubaix, where its puncture resistance and superior grip comes into its own. Its distinctive green stripe may not be to everyone’s liking but the 240g weight for a 25mm tyre is on a par with the lightest here.[/q]Ridley Fenix SL0 -
It is a great winter tyre - as they say, it's designed for riding over wet cobbles (the reason I run them in Amsterdam). And when it says about puncture resistance, I doubt they mean compared to Marathon Pluses but compared to other lightweight race tyres.ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH0
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It is a great winter tyre - as they say, it's designed for riding over wet cobbles (the reason I run them in Amsterdam). And when it says about puncture resistance, I doubt they mean compared to Marathon Pluses but compared to other lightweight race tyres.
when I read the article I wasn't making relativistic comparisons. It's not like when I am out on the bike I can just suddenly decide that I would rather be on Contis and hey presto it happens... the whole article is about winter tyres. if it says good puncture protection, then that is what I would expect. but 3 punctures in 2 days after a little rain on tyres with less than 400 kms on them is plain cr*p. apologies if I have offended you.Ridley Fenix SL0 -
Not at all - you might have mistaken me for someone that cares.
I just think you're being entirely unrealistic both in what you expect from the tyres but also in assuming your experience characterises the tyres. The fact that the thread is 5 years old and plenty of people are very happily choosing the tyres as a bad weather tyre should tell you something.ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH0 -
Not at all - you might have mistaken me for someone that cares.
I just think you're being entirely unrealistic both in what you expect from the tyres but also in assuming your experience characterises the tyres. The fact that the thread is 5 years old and plenty of people are very happily choosing the tyres as a bad weather tyre should tell you something.
the reason there aren't any more complaints is that the cyclists who bought them are frozen stiff on the side of the road trying to mend them... luckily for me my experience was in late summer/early autumn. let this be a warning to anyone contemplating using these tyres on anything other than smooth roads !Ridley Fenix SL0 -
They are for use on the open road where cars and other vehicles handily brush away most debris.I doubt Open Paves have ever been sold as a "commuting" tyre.
^this^
true - it is simply not suitable for any activity where there is contact with anything less than a perfect surface. those paves must be cleaned with toothpicks
Well, more than this, it's a race tyre. In the same way that you wouldn't expect a Pro peloton bike to have features for racks and guards and be parked in the company outdoor bike rack, I'm not sure why you'd expect an out-and-out race tyre (effectively the same construction, as I understand it, as the tub) to deal with the crap of a city centre commute? Unfortunately in this life you can rarely have everything: fast, light and very grippy is paid for by less robustness. I've been pleasantly surprised by how it has performed on the streets of what must be one of Europe's party capitals - broken green glass is everywhere. I certainly don't begrudge them the cuts in the outer compound.
http://road.cc/content/buyers-guide/68578-buyers-guide-best-tyres-get-you-through-winter
stupid road cycling journos would lead one to think that the Open Pave is a great winter tyre
[q] An expensive choice but many swear by the venerable Open Pave CG for riding through the winter. It's an exceptionally good tyre and has been a favourite for pro cyclists in races like Paris-Roubaix, where its puncture resistance and superior grip comes into its own. Its distinctive green stripe may not be to everyone’s liking but the 240g weight for a 25mm tyre is on a par with the lightest here.[/q]
Ride in city centres and you are likely to meet glass. Especially if you go near the gutter.
Ride on bike paths that will have glass and thorns using "race" tyres and you may as well throw tacks in front of you as you go.
Horses for courses. There are more robust tyres out there. But they won't ride as smooth.The above may be fact, or fiction, I may be serious, I may be jesting.
I am not sure. You have no chance.Veronese68 wrote:PB is the most sensible person on here.0 -
Open Paves are great tyres in that they are comfy and give a nice ride. They're pretty fast (a bit sticky so not the fastest) and they do cut up quite easily. I had them for a while, but they're not a good tyre for the Surrey roads. For a good standard tubed tyre, I'd stick with Michelin Pro4 SC. For something more substantial during the winter, try Conti GP 4 Seasons.WyndyMilla Massive Attack | Rourke 953 | Condor Italia 531 Pro | Boardman CX Pro | DT Swiss RR440 Tubeless Wheels
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Just been out for a wet 60k on my roadie that also uses Paves - I inevitably carried 10 spare inner tubes, 20 CO2 cartridges, a pack of patches and a track pump. I only just made it thanks to the Mavic support car.
Oh no - that's right - not had a single puncture on those either.ROAD < Scott Foil HMX Di2, Volagi Liscio Di2, Jamis Renegade Elite Di2, Cube Reaction Race > ROUGH0 -
Open Paves are great tyres in that they are comfy and give a nice ride. They're pretty fast (a bit sticky so not the fastest) and they do cut up quite easily. I had them for a while, but they're not a good tyre for the Surrey roads. For a good standard tubed tyre, I'd stick with Michelin Pro4 SC. For something more substantial during the winter, try Conti GP 4 Seasons.
So I can't ride them on Surrey roads or on London roads... I will just have to make sure I take a lot of cycling holidays and ride the Paves. Got to get my £63 worth out of those suckers.Ridley Fenix SL0 -
Open Paves are great tyres in that they are comfy and give a nice ride. They're pretty fast (a bit sticky so not the fastest) and they do cut up quite easily. I had them for a while, but they're not a good tyre for the Surrey roads. For a good standard tubed tyre, I'd stick with Michelin Pro4 SC. For something more substantial during the winter, try Conti GP 4 Seasons.
So I can't ride them on Surrey roads or on London roads... I will just have to make sure I take a lot of cycling holidays and ride the Paves. Got to get my £63 worth out of those suckers.
You *can* ride them on the Surrey roads, I did. I got 2 punctures IIRC in their short life before I passed them onto someone else, but I only used them on the Rourke in fair weather. The first puncture came after 3 rides with a cut in the tyre that was only just repairable with a tyre boot, and I had to put another boot in the other tyre due to another cut. Just carry a couple of inner tubes, a pump and a repair kit just in case.WyndyMilla Massive Attack | Rourke 953 | Condor Italia 531 Pro | Boardman CX Pro | DT Swiss RR440 Tubeless Wheels
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You *can* ride them on the Surrey roads, I did. I got 2 punctures IIRC in their short life before I passed them onto someone else, but I only used them on the Rourke in fair weather. The first puncture came after 3 rides with a cut in the tyre that was only just repairable with a tyre boot, and I had to put another boot in the other tyre due to another cut. Just carry a couple of inner tubes, a pump and a repair kit just in case.
Yeah, I've ridden them for two springs in the Surrey Hills and week day commutes. They've been booted twice now with an inner tube patch on the inside of the tyre. The carcass is starting to bulge so I don't think they'll be that good for next year, so I'll probably bin them. So, just to reiterate the above, you can ride them if you're prepared.Shand Skinnymalinky
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These are very good tyres but not for everyday commuting, certainly not in London anyway. They lasted me around 1k miles around London before they started to regularly puncture0
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Another positive here for these;had them(25's) since April and yes they have cut up quite a bit and the rear is starting to wear in the middle but have not had a single puncture at all;this is with Michelin latex tubes(with some talc in the tyres as well).They have done two 100m sportive,club runs and even some commutes in to Cambridge and have seen a fair mix of road surfaces(mostly rough fen ones).
I have now moved them to bike no 2 as I wanted to try some Clement Strada lcg's which seem less cut prone but do not have the same ride quality so come next year I'll probably go back to some Paves and might try and see if the 27's will fit in the Helium.Ridley Helium SL (Dura-Ace/Wheelsmith Aero-dimpled 45 wheels)
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