Cannondale Six - Bike of the Year?
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This months Cycling Plus makes it the top bike out of 50 tested - circa £1700 for one with 105/Aksiums. I've seen very little about it on these forums. Anyone got one yet? Experiences?
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Mate at work has one.
He went to get a CAAD9 but thought he go for the 6 instead. He absolutely loves it.0 -
Well done Cannondale for winning a competition chosen by a committee of riders.
A camel is a horse designed by committee.
Better to ride a few and decide what is best for you rather than assume you will agree with a panel.+++++++++++++++++++++
we are the proud, the few, Descendents.
Panama - finally putting a nail in the economic theory of the trickle down effect.0 -
Loving the comment "A camel is a horse designed by committee" best laugh so far today.
Anyway the 50 bike review in Cplus I read it. The Cannondale six I've ridden, last years model for a week out in Lanzarote. Good bike, good value for money. Reading the reviews etc it wasnt the best bike out of the 50 but it was the best value all rounder for the money or so the majority of testers agreed. There were quite a few better bikes in the 50.
i dont think you would go wrong with it. Only thing I dont like on it is the compact chainset and the saddle. Thats just personal preference.0 -
which ones? I don't remember any being pushed as markedly better, even up to 2.5k.Aberdeen_lune wrote:There were quite a few better bikes in the 50.0 -
For the £1799 price tag it's hard to beat...I guess thats why it won.
You get better parts on a £2500 bike but at £1800 the 'Dale is very upgradable.
Lighter wheels and tyres for £500 or so would bring the weight right down to equal or better most stock £2500 bikes...so you get more for less so to speak.
I just ordered a CAAD9 Taigra on the CTW scheme.
I did contemplate opting for the £300 more 105 Compact but I though that 9 spd is plenty for me as a trainer bike and that I can save the £300 towards upgrading it.Planet X RT-57 custom build0 -
I read the review and didn't take it that it was the best value hence it won, they did mention that it was very good value but still sang the bikes praises on how it performed and won as a complete package that surprisinlgy cost a lot less than the others yet could be specc'd with Ultegra for around £2300Kev
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Dont have the review in front of me but from memory the Storck bike got a great write up and their were a few others. It all depends on what your using it for. The Cannondale six would make a great sportive bike. There were a few more race oriented bikes which got nine out of ten in the supplement. Horses for courses camels for deserts.0
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Yep, I have the Six Carbon. Mine's 2009 model - no idea if there is any difference between the 09 & 10. I only got it in January - as it was last year's model I got it for under £1300 with 105 and Aksiums. (I have now put different wheels on and changed the seatpost & bars tho.)
It's my first carbon bike so I haven't got a lot to compare it to other than my existing alloy bike. I definitely notice a difference in stiffness, even tho I'm not very heavy or powerful. It makes climbing feel a lot easier. It's very comfy - just soaks up the road vibration. (Maybe all carbon bikes are like that tho!)
I also love its looks - in truth that was what sold it to me. :oops:
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I'd rather have the Storck! But the Cannondale is a lovely bike..0
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NapoleonD wrote:Mate at work has one.
He went to get a CAAD9 but thought he go for the 6 instead. He absolutely loves it.
I too went to LBS with the intention of buying the CAAD9 and left with a Six 105.
This is my first carbon bike and what a dream to ride. Big thanks to the friendly staff at Royles.
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Heh heh, that's where my mate went! In fact, that's where I get all my stuff...0
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"a camel is a horse designed by committee"
Well actually, no; the camel is a perfectly designed and evolved beast specific to its harsh environment and without compromise. It could never have been designed by a committee. Things designed by commitee are dull, uninspiring and mediocre - never beautiful, never ugly - just dull.
No camel is ever dull.0 -
i think this maybe called "digressing"tenor wrote:"a camel is a horse designed by committee"
Well actually, no; the camel is a perfectly designed and evolved beast specific to its harsh environment and without compromise. It could never have been designed by a committee. Things designed by commitee are dull, uninspiring and mediocre - never beautiful, never ugly - just dull.
No camel is ever dull.
Anyway, should I throw another £400 at it for Ultegra/Kysiriums (it'll be my first carbon/serious bike) and/or go the extra mile for a super six?0 -
Looks a nice bike, I'd have the Storck every time though.0
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why?nferrar wrote:Looks a nice bike, I'd have the Storck every time though.0 -
The Storck would blow it out of the water. A much faster bike. Doesn't mean there's anything wrong with the six though.0
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The Storck would blow it out of the water. A much faster bike. Doesn't mean there's anything wrong with the six though.0
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Aberdeen_lune wrote:The Storck would blow it out of the water. A much faster bike. Doesn't mean there's anything wrong with the six though.
Much faster? WTF?!
Have you ridden both? What makes it much faster?0 -
The bike is only as fast as the legs and lungs that power it.I`m not a rocket scientist and i worked that one out all on my own.0
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I had a shot of a Storck last year. They are flying machines. I rode the six for a week last year it's a lovely bike comfortable and quite quick but not an out and out racer.
"The bike is only as fast as the legs and lungs that power it.I`m not a rocket scientist and i worked that one out all on my own".
Do you only have one bike Carbon Copy? My Ti bike is super comfy and quite nimble its a great bike I love it its great for sportives but I'd never race on it. When I go on my Orca its a flying machine. Same rider different bike. It's all in the geometry, the stiffness of the frame etc etc.0 -
Aberdeen_lune wrote:I had a shot of a Storck last year. They are flying machines. I rode the six for a week last year it's a lovely bike comfortable and quite quick but not an out and out racer.
"The bike is only as fast as the legs and lungs that power it.I`m not a rocket scientist and i worked that one out all on my own".
Do you only have one bike Carbon Copy? My Ti bike is super comfy and quite nimble its a great bike I love it its great for sportives but I'd never race on it. When I go on my Orca its a flying machine. Same rider different bike. It's all in the geometry, the stiffness of the frame etc etc.
Utter b0ll0cks.
I had a Look carbon bike, I now have a Cervelo S2, I have a Litespeed Ti bike. I have owned Aluminium bikes.
The difference between the Six and a Storck will be miniscule percentages.
On a long ride I'm virtually the same speed on all bikes. If I put my Zipp wheels on my Litespeed then there would be none.
So you are saying that your Orbea is much faster than your Ti bike?
Have you checked for brake rub on the Ti one?0 -
tenor wrote:"a camel is a horse designed by committee"
Well actually, no; the camel is a perfectly designed and evolved beast specific to its harsh environment and without compromise. It could never have been designed by a committee. Things designed by commitee are dull, uninspiring and mediocre - never beautiful, never ugly - just dull.
No camel is ever dull.
So you're saying a horse is a camel designed by a committee then? :?
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My Orca is much faster then my Tarmac never mind my Van Nicholas. Judging by club rides recently the difference is startling for me. I spin out on my Van Nicholas when the pace is really hot (relaxed geometry compact chainset), I even struggled on my Tarmac at times on club rides recently when the pace was hot. Last weekend on the Orca I was flying on the sprints and first up the hills. Maybe I just have a really good day whenever I'm on the Orca but I think the bike does make a tangible difference. Thats my opinion anyway. If you think they are all much the same then buy a cheapo bike and flog off all your fancy kit.0
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NapoleonD wrote:Aberdeen_lune wrote:I had a shot of a Storck last year. They are flying machines. I rode the six for a week last year it's a lovely bike comfortable and quite quick but not an out and out racer.
"The bike is only as fast as the legs and lungs that power it.I`m not a rocket scientist and i worked that one out all on my own".
Do you only have one bike Carbon Copy? My Ti bike is super comfy and quite nimble its a great bike I love it its great for sportives but I'd never race on it. When I go on my Orca its a flying machine. Same rider different bike. It's all in the geometry, the stiffness of the frame etc etc.
Utter b0ll0cks.
I had a Look carbon bike, I now have a Cervelo S2, I have a Litespeed Ti bike. I have owned Aluminium bikes.
The difference between the Six and a Storck will be miniscule percentages.
On a long ride I'm virtually the same speed on all bikes. If I put my Zipp wheels on my Litespeed then there would be none.
So you are saying that your Orbea is much faster than your Ti bike?
Have you checked for brake rub on the Ti one?
Yep, bikes are all the same, lets stop discussing them, sell our expensive kit and get ourselves down to Tesco for a nice BSO.... :roll:0 -
Bikes do ride differently as we know.
eg My Allez 16 is more than 8lb heavier than my SL3 so there is a distinct weight advantage on my SL3 and it really does fly.
It'll be interesting to compare it against the CAAD9 when it arrives and once I swap over the wheels and make it nearly 2lb lighter than standard.
Ride characteristics are also affected by road conditions and the weather too so it all depends on what bike you have on the day, how your feeling and all other conditions impacting on performance.Planet X RT-57 custom build0 -
MatHammond wrote:NapoleonD wrote:Aberdeen_lune wrote:I had a shot of a Storck last year. They are flying machines. I rode the six for a week last year it's a lovely bike comfortable and quite quick but not an out and out racer.
"The bike is only as fast as the legs and lungs that power it.I`m not a rocket scientist and i worked that one out all on my own".
Do you only have one bike Carbon Copy? My Ti bike is super comfy and quite nimble its a great bike I love it its great for sportives but I'd never race on it. When I go on my Orca its a flying machine. Same rider different bike. It's all in the geometry, the stiffness of the frame etc etc.
Utter b0ll0cks.
I had a Look carbon bike, I now have a Cervelo S2, I have a Litespeed Ti bike. I have owned Aluminium bikes.
The difference between the Six and a Storck will be miniscule percentages.
On a long ride I'm virtually the same speed on all bikes. If I put my Zipp wheels on my Litespeed then there would be none.
So you are saying that your Orbea is much faster than your Ti bike?
Have you checked for brake rub on the Ti one?
Yep, bikes are all the same, lets stop discussing them, sell our expensive kit and get ourselves down to Tesco for a nice BSO.... :roll:
Bit extreme...
I think that at the level we all ride at I think that performance between higher spec'd bikes is pretty similar. Yes my Cervelo is faster in a race / chain gang than my Litespeed. But to say it's a massive difference is wrong. You are talking minor percentages. If I compared my Cervelo with another, similarly priced race oriented frame of the same geometry then I daresay there would be no discernible difference.0 -
interesting stuff. Recently at Epic one of the sales guys (a keen racer) brought it home to me that at my level (entry level racer, average sportive rider), the diff between, say, Athena and Veloce is splitting hairs - likewise minor tweaks on geo/weight.
I like the way the Six looks anyway - it'l suit me fine and is £400 cheaper.
Next question: what chainset best for racing? I've always had a compact (50/34) until now.0 -
NapoleonD wrote:MatHammond wrote:NapoleonD wrote:Aberdeen_lune wrote:I had a shot of a Storck last year. They are flying machines. I rode the six for a week last year it's a lovely bike comfortable and quite quick but not an out and out racer.
"The bike is only as fast as the legs and lungs that power it.I`m not a rocket scientist and i worked that one out all on my own".
Do you only have one bike Carbon Copy? My Ti bike is super comfy and quite nimble its a great bike I love it its great for sportives but I'd never race on it. When I go on my Orca its a flying machine. Same rider different bike. It's all in the geometry, the stiffness of the frame etc etc.
Utter b0ll0cks.
I had a Look carbon bike, I now have a Cervelo S2, I have a Litespeed Ti bike. I have owned Aluminium bikes.
The difference between the Six and a Storck will be miniscule percentages.
On a long ride I'm virtually the same speed on all bikes. If I put my Zipp wheels on my Litespeed then there would be none.
So you are saying that your Orbea is much faster than your Ti bike?
Have you checked for brake rub on the Ti one?
Yep, bikes are all the same, lets stop discussing them, sell our expensive kit and get ourselves down to Tesco for a nice BSO.... :roll:
Bit extreme...
I think that at the level we all ride at I think that performance between higher spec'd bikes is pretty similar. Yes my Cervelo is faster in a race / chain gang than my Litespeed. But to say it's a massive difference is wrong. You are talking minor percentages. If I compared my Cervelo with another, similarly priced race oriented frame of the same geometry then I daresay there would be no discernible difference.
That sounds fair enough.0 -
I agree it's not a massive difference I overegged that a bit. It is still a noticable difference though. If i was the OP I would base my decision on the type of riding I do. If its mainly training and sportives a six with a compact chainset will be a cracking bike. If its chaingangs race training APRs and road races then one of the racier bikes would be better.0
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I stand by my statement.I will put it more clearly as to what i meant.
Bikes that fall within the same price bracket and fit the rider correctly will only be as fast as the legs and lungs that power it.
Bikes are like women they can inspire you to try harder or the opposite.If they don`t carry any sexual prowess or are not asthetically pleasing to the eye you won`t be as bothered to put in the ground to get the results.but if they are asthetically pleasing and carry sexual prowess then you will be more likely to ride better.
Ladies this can also be the same for you i would guess.Yes it sounds kind of cheesy but their is truth in there somewhere. 0
