Milan San Remo

yourpaceormine
yourpaceormine Posts: 1,245
edited March 2010 in Pro race
Can't quite decide on this this one... Cav is he really off form/still warming up, or is he playing the ultimate bluff?

Remember last year - I can win it one day but not this time....
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  • fiftyacorns
    fiftyacorns Posts: 66
    Im thinking Boonen to win

    Cav will come good - hopefully at the Tour and also the worlds in oz
  • calvjones
    calvjones Posts: 3,850
    This isn't what. PTP thread is suposed to be about. Please rename it 'MSR discussion' or something or afx life will be misery!
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  • mididoctors
    mididoctors Posts: 18,908
    yourpaceormine wrote:
    Can't quite decide on this this one... Cav is he really off form/still warming up, or is he playing the ultimate bluff?

    Remember last year - I can win it one day but not this time....

    you can rename the thread by editing the first post you made

    alternatively AFX could hijack the thread i guess

    the rule of thumb up until now is AFX (or deignated poster) starts all threads marked PTP
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  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    I don't mind who starts the threads, but a) it's a bit early and b) calv is right :)
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Cavendish will most definitely not win.

    Especially now the finish is closer to the poggio (it is, isn't it?).
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  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    Am I misunderstanding the PTP threads. I've avoided posting in them as I'm not really interested in taking part, but I'd quite like to join in a discussion on MSR and other races. Don't want to upset anyone!

    And I don't reckon Cavendish will win, think he'll come good later in the year. Think it's about time someone won from an attack on the Poggio, the finish being closer will certainly help.
  • Noclue
    Noclue Posts: 503
    Was having this conversation about a huge bluff with a work colleauge the other day, but my money is also on Boonen at the moment.
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    EBH will win this one.

    Cav is saving for the worlds...
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    greasedscotsman wrote:
    Am I misunderstanding the PTP threads. I've avoided posting in them as I'm not really interested in taking part, but I'd quite like to join in a discussion on MSR and other races. Don't want to upset anyone!

    There's not much discussion in the PTP threads, so they're probably boring to anyone who doesn't take part.

    As for MSR, I hope someone tries to stir it up a bit on the Poggio. I mean, no offence to Cavendish or his fans, but last year's race... up until Haussler started sprinting... was pretty dull.
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    afx237vi wrote:
    As for MSR, I hope someone tries to stir it up a bit on the Poggio. I mean, no offence to Cavendish or his fans, but last year's race... up until Haussler started sprinting... was pretty dull.

    Hopefully someone will stir it up on the Cipressa!
  • TheStone
    TheStone Posts: 2,291
    Anyone know how long before the race they close the roads?
    Will be over there, so would love to see Cav win again, but not looking likely.

    I think my PTP pick will be Pozzato?
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  • csp
    csp Posts: 777
    So many of you mention Cavendish bluffing, but I can't imagine anyone delibaretely trying not to win races. The winner of Dauphine Libere has always been regarded as the one most likely to win the Tour, so why wouldn't riders be bluffing then?
  • finchy
    finchy Posts: 6,686
    csp wrote:
    So many of you mention Cavendish bluffing, but I can't imagine anyone delibaretely trying not to win races. The winner of Dauphine Libere has always been regarded as the one most likely to win the Tour, so why wouldn't riders be bluffing then?

    I think Cav bluffed last year either in Eroica or Tirreno-Adriatico. He got dropped deliberately on a steep hill.

    No harm in going in as the underdog - maybe then the other sprinters' teams will do a bit of work for once.
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,821
    Gasparotto was talking about mixing it up from le Manie, which is what they did when Cancellara won.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    In this month's procycling ( I know a while ago, but still relevant):

    Cavendish:
    Aimed at having 2,000km under his belt by the end of Feb, but managed 'about 300km'.


    Most roadies on this forum managed more than that.

    You can't miss out that much riding in January & February and be in top form for Milan - San Remo - no way.

    Wouldn't surprise me if Boonen got wind of that quite early and decided quietly to come to Milan in better shape than he normally does.

    Eitherway, he's certainly not sandbagging.
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  • pb21
    pb21 Posts: 2,171
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Cavendish:
    Aimed at having 2,000km under his belt by the end of Feb, but managed 'about 300km'.

    2000ks I would have thought that would be the minimum you would be aiming for if San Remo was a target?
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  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    pb21 wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Cavendish:
    Aimed at having 2,000km under his belt by the end of Feb, but managed 'about 300km'.

    2000ks I would have thought that would be the minimum you would be aiming for if San Remo was a target?

    I think he means 2000 km of actual racing - that's about what he did before the end of February last year.
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  • pb21
    pb21 Posts: 2,171
    RichN95 wrote:
    pb21 wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Cavendish:
    Aimed at having 2,000km under his belt by the end of Feb, but managed 'about 300km'.

    2000ks I would have thought that would be the minimum you would be aiming for if San Remo was a target?

    I think he means 2000 km of actual racing - that's about what he did before the end of February last year.

    Ah that makes more sense!
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  • Le Commentateur
    Le Commentateur Posts: 4,099
    afx237vi wrote:
    As for MSR, I hope someone tries to stir it up a bit on the Poggio. I mean, no offence to Cavendish or his fans, but last year's race... up until Haussler started sprinting... was pretty dull.

    I quite enjoyed watching Scarponi (I think it was) and Garzelli stringing the field out on the Cipressa, but unfortunately no-one took the bait and launched a commited attack. I think nowadays they all know the course profile is too tame for for the pace of the sprinters being shielded in the peloton and so I'm watching it more for the lovely springtime scenery until the run up to the final hill.
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  • ozzzyosborn206
    ozzzyosborn206 Posts: 1,340
    pb21 wrote:
    RichN95 wrote:
    pb21 wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Cavendish:
    Aimed at having 2,000km under his belt by the end of Feb, but managed 'about 300km'.

    2000ks I would have thought that would be the minimum you would be aiming for if San Remo was a target?

    I think he means 2000 km of actual racing - that's about what he did before the end of February last year.

    Ah that makes more sense!

    iit was in their training camp in Majorca he planned 2000k but actually managed about 300k, i think cancellara could be in with a shout again, but think Haussler and Hushovd will be going well too
  • csp
    csp Posts: 777
    Haussler is likely not to take part in this year's race.
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    Would love Cav to win it again this year, but I agree- he hasn't got the form right now, and he's not bluffing.

    With Haussler unlikely to be fit enough to turn up, my money's on Boonen.
  • pb21
    pb21 Posts: 2,171
    Yeah I will be going for Boonen in the PTP providing nothing happens in the meantime, definitely the favourite IMO.
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  • TheStone
    TheStone Posts: 2,291
    Unibet have Greipel as favourite ?

    Greipel, A 6.50
    Boonen, T 7.00
    Cavendish, M 10.00
    Boasson Hagen, E 12.00
    Gilbert, Philippe 12.00
    Freire, O 12.00
    Bennati, D 14.00
    Petacchi, A 16.00
    Pozzato, F 17.00
    Sagan, P 20.00
    Cancellara, F 20.00
    Hushovd, T 25.00
    Farrar, T 28.00
    Gasparotto, E 35.00
    Haussler, H 40.00
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  • andyp
    andyp Posts: 10,549
    A trio of Italians at very good prices there, including two former winners.

    How can you have Greipel as favourite, he's got no form in this type of event whatsoever.
  • Tusher
    Tusher Posts: 2,762
    Suspect that the (suspect) thinking behind this is that Columbia will sprinkle some of their fairy magic winning dust on him.

    Leaving the rest on Cav's toothbrush.
  • greasedscotsman
    greasedscotsman Posts: 6,962
    andyp wrote:
    How can you have Greipel as favourite, he's got no form in this type of event whatsoever.

    Does seem quite an odd favourite, maybe this shows there isn't really a favourite, hopefully we'll get quite an open race?

    Also thought Bennati looked good in today's TR stage, be interesting to see who wins tomorrow's stage or even who does and doesn't go for it!
  • takethehighroad
    takethehighroad Posts: 6,821
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/milan-san-remo-start-list

    Provisional start list published this morning, Astana have got a very capable squad, 6 good dommies and 2 puncheurs who can sprint. Allan Davis has come second before now
  • Kléber
    Kléber Posts: 6,842
    andyp wrote:
    How can you have Greipel as favourite, he's got no form in this type of event whatsoever.
    It could be a quirk, that the bookmaker wants to create discussion or that a punter or two has taken a big position and driven the position to such low odds. Certainly Greipel seems slower at the moment and if you'd consider him for a sprint finish then you'd also want to consider others too.
  • pb21
    pb21 Posts: 2,171
    TakeTheHighRoad wrote:
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/milan-san-remo-start-list

    Provisional start list published this morning, Astana have got a very capable squad, 6 good dommies and 2 puncheurs who can sprint. Allan Davis has come second before now

    Greipel isnt even on the start list!?
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