My first build PLEASE HELP!!!

Laurence25

This is going to be my first “proper” mountain bike build and if I am honest I need a bit of help components wise. I decided to go with the 2010 orange crush frame in the end after much debating with my self all though I am trying too keep to a budget of around £600 pounds 4 the frame forks and wheel set. The frame alone will cost £315 That will leave me with £285 for the forks and the wheel set I no its not much but it is all I can afford.

I would like the fork to have 140mm travel and I will be using the bike pretty much EVERYWHERE any help would be much appreciated thanks

(P.S Could any one recommend the Shimano XT M770 chainset or the Shimano M665 SLX double crankest??? My heart is set n the XT but I have never used the SLX so I am not sure what to go for?)


Thank Laurence

supersonic

Where is your budget for the rest of the gear coming from if you only have 600 quid? Can't you move some of this to the fork and wheel budget?

ilovedirt

For starters i'm going to say don't get a crush frame, personally i wouldn't have an alu hardcore hardtail, i'd want steel as it takes some of the trail buzz away and is more responsive, alu is very stiff and lifeless. Get an on one 456, £150 steel frame and very good, sorted. That leaves you with an extra £165 to play with.

As for wheels, get some used but decent condition hope pro II hubs built onto mavic rims or something (i don't know a whole lot about rims, but hope hubs last forever if you maintain them correctly). You're looking at about £50 for a front wheel and £80-£100 for the rear one, used. Brand new they're £100 and £170 respectively.

Forks, you can't go far wrong with rockshox pikes. Heavier than revelations, but very reliable and sturdy, they perform flawlessly and can be had for £200 or so used in decent condition.

supersonic

is more responsive, alu is very stiff and lifeless

That is just simply not the case with some frames, and the same can be said for steel - some are VERY stiff. You can't say all are the same.

ilovedirt

I was generalising, you have to admit, that's generally the case. But i've heard a lot of good stuff about the 456 frames and not so much about the crush... not enough that I'd want to fork out more than double for one.

supersonic

I'd just buy a GT Agressor XCR for 700 quid lol.

Laurence25

To "supersonic"

I have priced up the rest of my gear and i no pretty much what i want and for how much i can spend so there is nothing to worry about on that front

And to "ilovedirt"

I am pretty set on the Crush, And I will have to have a look at some rockshox pikes sounds gr8 for the price As for rims all so sound gr8 4 the price as long as they last for ages then they will do the job for me

Thanks for the advice

Laurence

supersonic

If you want new, go for:

http://www.woollyhatshop.com/view_product.php?id=1336

and a

http://www.cyclesportsuk.co.uk/product_ ... ts_id=3241

Laurence25

Thanks "Supersonic"

I really like the look of that wheel set i will read into them abit more see if any one has left any reviews on them

supersonic

A few people here use them, and I have the XC version - very good quality.

ash.addy

Superstar have good deals on wheelsets have a look -

http://superstar.tibolts.co.uk/index.ph ... d8dd63f78f

ash.addy

Superstar have good deals on wheelsets have a look -

http://superstar.tibolts.co.uk/index.ph ... d8dd63f78f

thekickingmule

Supersonic knows what he's talking about, so I'd listen to him (if not, he'll send the heavies round ) The wheels he's linked to look quite good (i'm interested in them myself) and the Tora 318's he's linked to are similar to my 302's, but slightly lighter and better. both good for the money.

On my HT i have a M770 Front mech and an SLX Shadow Rear mech. To be honest, to save you money I'd say go with the SLX stuff, as it's quite sturdy and nice and responsive. I've just had to get a new Front mech as a bolt snapped off that i'm struggling to get out now

The Northern Monkey

£600 for forks, wheels and frame?

You may as well buy the Orange Crush fully built... otherwise you'll end up spending more for a lesser spec'd bike.

Or buy the XCR like supersonic suggested.

cat_with_no_tail

My only issue with that Xero DH wheelset is that it's all QR. You can forgive them QR on the back, but up front I'd have expected a 20mm axle, or at least the option to switch to 20mm with an adaptor.

Of course, this has no relevance to the OP if he gets the forks Sonic linked to, just something that annoyed me.

peter413

I know you said about shimano cranksets but have you looked at Race Face?

You can get a Ride XC from merlin for 65 quid

http://www.merlincycles.co.uk/?fn=product&productId=1968&categoryId=12

ilovedirt

Wow, £65 is a good price on that ride XC crankset, raceface stuff is very good, though a bit more of a pain in the arse to set up than the shimano equivalent, i found.

peter413

ilovedirt wrote:

Wow, £65 is a good price on that ride XC crankset, raceface stuff is very good, though a bit more of a pain in the ars* to set up than the shimano equivalent, i found.

Yes but once set up they are amazing!!!

And much easier than FSA stuff

joshtp

just get an XCR and spend anything you have left + what you get for what you replace on upgrading whatever you feel needs upgrading, not that any of it really does....

xtreem

A fork bargain:
Rock Shox Pike 426 2009 - £280.

Now if some one could post a set of wheels with 20mm front hub for £120 ish.

But if you want a white fork for £320 you can have the Recon 351 140mm with Maxle.
For now I think you can sacrifice on the wheels.

supersonic

I'd get a Hone or SLX crankset:

http://www.fredbakercycles.co.uk/402/SH ... ign=pid402

ilovedirt

supersonic wrote:

I'd get a Hone or SLX crankset:

http://www.fredbakercycles.co.uk/402/SH ... ign=pid402

For that price you might as well pay £9 more and get SLX

supersonic

Or pay another 20 on that and get XT...

stanfree

supersonic wrote:

I'd just buy a GT Agressor XCR for 700 quid lol.

Nice thats my bike.

benpinnick

Save the money on the cranks and get some Deore ones and put the money into your wheels. Before anyone starts nay-saying, they are XT ones from a few years back, and very good indeed for the money, albeit heavier rings than the high spec ones.

benpinnick

Xtreem wrote:

Now if some one could post a set of wheels with 20mm front hub for £120 ish.

How about :

http://superstar.tibolts.co.uk/product_ ... cts_id=243 ?

ilovedirt

supersonic wrote:

Or pay another 20 on that and get XT...

you can get an XT crankset for £110? :shock:

supersonic

Well, £112 yes.

http://www.noahsark.co.uk/shimano-xt-m7 ... -3644.html

And older M761 for £80.

supersonic

Damn, it is without BB now! It wasn't before lol!

ilovedirt

christ, keen eye there... if i'd seen that when i bought my SLX i'd have had that instead! oh well

EDIT: ah no BB - that's another £25 on top then, maybe not such a bargain

jay12

if you want 140mm forks for little money look for something like the marzocchi all mountains on ebay. i got the 2007 am4s for £77 on auction. they were hardly used and are very good forks IMO. even if you don't like the or something you can buy some pikes or revelations later on when you have enough