Indonesia Bike Scam

Nottyfruit

talk about fraud in Indonesia, i live in malaysia and i almost fell for kartika-chandra's scam as well and also this guy whom i've been in contact with earlier in the UK. below is the excerpt of his email to me. he's asking for USD2500 for the Pinarello Prince with listed components. can i believe him? any of you in the UK can suss this guy out? oh, to top it all off shipping to malaysia is free !!!!

"Hello."

Thanks for the mail..

We are real, legit and registered company..

BIKE ABOUT LIMITED
4 GABOR CLOSE
RUGBY
WARWICKSHIRE
UNITED KINGDOM
CV21 1XQ
Company No. 06918568

Here is the bikes spec...

Features:
# Frameset: Pinarello Prince Carbon 50HM1K
# Fork: Pinarello Onda Carbon
# Brakes: Shimano Dura Ace 7900
# Shifters: Shimano Dura Ace 7970 Di2
# Crank: Shimano Dura Ace 7900 34-50t
# Front Deraileur: Shimano Dura Ace 7970 Di2
# Rear Deraileur: Shimano Dura Ace 7970 Di2
# Cassette: Shimano Dura Ace 7900
# Chain: Shimano Dura Ace 7900
# Headset: Pinarello
# Handlebar: M.O.s.t. Talon integrated with stem
# Stem: M.O.s.t. Talon integrated with handlebar
# Seatpost: M.O.s.t. carbon
# Saddle: M.O.s.t. XLR carbon/carbon rails
# Pedals: Look Keo Titanium with Pinarello branding
# Bottle cages: Elite carbon
# Wheels: M.O.s.t. Charisma carbon
# Tires: Continental Ultra Sport 700x23 with Pinarello Prince branding


Our website is under construction. . .

I know you are afraid of losing your money...i can allow you to make
an advance payment of 70% before shipment and 30% after delivery.

I await your full address

Daniel

indolegit

saintdracula wrote:

Term1te wrote:

indolegit wrote:

Has been a fact that Indonesia has listed as one of biggest country for internet fraud and scam along with Nigeria,Pakistan and Romania. We aware that this criminality does not only harm the businessmen from the foreign countries, it harms also the reputation of the Indonesian legit business in the world.

Therefore, we are currently building a list of recent Indonesian fake company/business. If you lately have been scammed or have any information regarding the Indonesian scammer, kindly submit their details on our website :

http://www.indolegit.com

Help us to free Indonesia from internet fraud and scams. And help others to avoid scam from and to Indonesia. Lets establish future healthy online business environment for everyone.

Anyone been brave enough to follow the link?

I was; Google protected me from the malware.

Utter Pieces of ****.

If you were using Google safe browsing than :

http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diag ... olegit.com

In fact, Google was telling you that the site is free of malware
Read first before swearing lie

blackpoolkev

I came across the ali baba site and their incredible prices(alarm bells),far east addresses(alarm bells),money transfer payment... you get the gist. I then refined my search to uk registered users. A quick search of the addresses using "bing 3D" revealed non existent street names and post codes that were residential properties.I'm no Sherlock Holmes but still found it remarkably easy to see through these shysters.
If you enjoy spotting scammers you will love this site.

joeyhalloran

does anyone have experience of getting what they ordered?

v3l0

Hi guys
That is my first post in this forum, and I also saw this offers.
After some mails with different of this suppliers and reading your text ozietatts, I'm now pretty sure that all of them are fake.
Except of one.
I wrote to all of them an e-mail:

Hi
I'm very interested in your offer but I'm not sure if this isn't a fake.
I have some questions and i really want that you answear all of them. If not we don't have a deal.
1. Is it really a original cervelo bike?
2. Is the minimum order quantitiy one bike?
3. How much is one bike?
4. Can I pay by paypal?
5. How long is the top tube in size 58c
6. How long is the head tube in size 58cm?
7. Please send me some new made pictures of the bike.
Sorry that I'm so distrustful
Thank you

I really had to laugh about some replies. They didn't answered ONE question!
But one of 'em wrote this:

Hello,
Thanks for your mail and the content werefully noted..note the bike isn't fake..Its Original branded bike which you will see for your self when you get the bike.
Yes..The minimum order is 1 bike..We sell as a sample Order.
The size of the bike is 54
The Total cost for 1 bike + shipping is $2,500USD.
I cant send pictures here on alibaba..

Regarding payment: We stop accepting paypal as a mean of receiving payment due to buyer who send us fake confirmation from PayPal and steal our bikes without paying...
But to guarranty a safe transaction we will allow you deposit the money for your order via western union as your name as the sender and any name as the receiver,you will then send us the details so that we can track payment online via www.westernunion.com .
This is what i mean: Deposit the money via western union in this way:
Sender's Name: Your Name
Receiver's Name: Any Name
Address: 52-54 Tooley Street
London, Greater London SE1 2SZ
United Kingdom

Once we have tracked payment online via www.westernunion.com and the link show available,we will know you have the money and you have deposited it..We will then effect shipment and send you the tracking number and airwaybill.
Once you get the bike and you are okay with the quality,you can now change the RECEIVER'S NAME to our name so that we can collect the money..
But can we trust that you will change the receiver's name once you get the bike?
If we can work this way..confirm your order and send us your full name and full shipping address so that we can proceed with the packaging and labeling of your Order.
Best Regards.



So what dou you think about this now?
Is it also a fake or yould it be real?

Thank you very much for telling me your opinion

softlad

I get the feeling this thread is full of far eastern scammers pretending to be Brits...?

v3l0

Why pretending to be brits?
I'm from Switzerland and I learn English just in school. So I'm sorry if it isn't perfect...
Must I have the british passport to get the right to post here? So if you can't help pls don't post here and offend other people callig them a scammer.

larfingravy

Buckled_Rims wrote:

Warning

Is it me who thinks all these low numbered posters are from the same person?

Once you start to look, it's easy to spot the similarities.

Yep, sumfin not right with some of the posts on here. Don't know why they would want to post in such a way but they have the appearance of being decidedly 'dodge'.

fast as fupp

me spik inglis umpossible

wood i lye too yoo?

v3l0

Omg what's that for a forum...
I just wanted to get some little, useful answers and made a long post for that and all I got in reply is just shit.
I'm really sorry if I make some mistakes, but my native language isn't english...

Dont you see the difference between my postings and them from the other user/(s) with one post?
They/he said that all this Indonesian offers are faked.
I want to know if I can trust one of them...


But now I think I really got to the wrong address. Instead of writing some useful tips, the users here just make jokes about spelling mistakes...

Rarely seen a forum like that.

s1lko

indolegit wrote:

If you were using Google safe browsing than :

http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diag ... olegit.com

In fact, Google was telling you that the site is free of malware
Read first before swearing lie

So why did AVG tell me it prevented the site shoving nuttypiano malware my way? Foxtrot Oscar, my friend

dilemna

See my signature regarding stupid people.

It never ceases to amaze me how gullible and stupid people are whether buyers or scammers. But I guess some people have more money than sense Americans and others would sell their own children as they do in Romania and Indonesia.

If you buy from these scam websites and clearly the scammers are even posting here then you need your head examined. You deserve to lose your money as you shouldn't even be allowed out on your own as you'd probably go out in your jimjams and slippers if unsupervised.

Unbelievable.

Moderators lock this thread????????

geo300

Good day everyone, first post to this forum here....

I too was suspicious regarding some better than average pricing, but really more impressed by the level of detail put into the website.

For example http://kingcycle.net/products.php?produ ... ssue-Bike-
Felt AR1 2010 Team Issue Bike for $4999US There is no way you can build one yourself for that much.

They accept PayPal payments as well, very clever.

geebee2

Paying by Paypal or Credit Card should be pretty safe.

Most of the risk of these methods of payment is actually borne by the vendor - for example if they dispatch goods and the CC is stolen, there will be a charge back and the vendor is out of pocket for the value of the goods.

But take care certainly. I have bought from China, no problems at all and very pleased with the goods.

geo300

geebee2 wrote:

Paying by Paypal or Credit Card should be pretty safe.

Most of the risk of these methods of payment is actually borne by the vendor - for example if they dispatch goods and the CC is stolen, there will be a charge back and the vendor is out of pocket for the value of the goods.

But take care certainly. I have bought from China, no problems at all and very pleased with the goods.

Mind if I ask where? How was the transaction:pricing, payment, shipping, etc?

geebee2

Mind if I ask where? How was the transaction:pricing, payment, shipping, etc?

hongfu-bikes.com

Order was as follows

Price Weight Description
$400.00 1150 Frame FM015 58cm (price includes fork,weight includes frame fittings)
379 Fork FK007 (35g trimmed)
$15.00 82 Headset Neco 1 x top 1-1/8,down 1-1/2 (weight w/o 42g top cap + plug)
$38.00 208 Seatpost SP003 (includes seat bracket)
$25.00 158 Stem "Road alloy+carbon stem" 100mm
$60.00 276 Handlebar HB003 440mm
$13.50 30 Bottle Cage FD010
$90.00 Shipping from China (EMS)

£414.63 2283 Total from hongfu-bikes.com = $641.50

Paid via paypal, you can track EMS package all the way from China to your local sorting depot. Only one tiny problem - the rear drop out on the drive side was slightly too tight, so the rear axle would not fit in. Solved quite easily by just scraping away a little bit of material.

Wheelspinner

Interesting new twist to these scams the other day. I received actual snail-mail letters, postmarked from the UK, and addressed to me at home, advising the usual we-have-millions-for-you drivel.

The scammers can now afford to post real letters! Must be making money somewhere...

smep

I have a chap from I ndonesia who wants to buy a bike from me seems legit but a bit worried now I have seen this.

pkraus

They have good, but not great deals... Wondering if they are legit. If i am wondering that - they likely are not.

letuanvu

Hi Everybody
Some body know infor about this website
http://www.general-bicycle.com/
http://www.percian-cycles.com/
Some body had been order from them before.They have good price but I scare.
Give me some advice
Thanks

a_n_t

This thread is quality!

Next.............

nicklouse

good price no goods,

one site

Updated Date: 18-feb-2011
Creation Date: 18-feb-2011
Expiration Date: 18-feb-2012

the other

Creation Date: 08-dec-2010
Expiration Date: 08-dec-2011


any bike business in Indonesia that is offering something that looks too go to be true will be.

robklancs

make this thread a sticky just for the laughs, these indonesians like buses, never seen many on here, now there are hundreds!

navrig

Brilliant.

I bet they are using forums like this to gauge what bilkes are sought after so they can then build their website around it.

I wonder if we could join forces and mess them around a bit by placing orders and then asking loads of questions and never follow up with the money.

A forum beer to the person who gets the best email trail with one :twisted:

Lillywhite

While there are mugs out there then these sites will still reel them in.

inferno79

CRISTIANRICARDO
Jl.Samosir no 42
Parapat, North Sumatera
Indonesia 24183
Tel : 62-813-9374-7382

Company Name CRISTIANRICARDO
Contact Person Cristian Ricardo
Email georgecao63@163.net
Company Address Jl.Samosir
City Parapat
Province/State North Sumatera
Country/Region Indonesia [ID]
Zip Code 20913
Phone Number 62-813-738499712
Fax Number 62-647-547885464
Mobile Phone 6281688849736283


cristian.ricardo12@juno.com

Cristian Ricardo

Jl.Samosir

628153000263782091


Cristian Ricardo
Company: CRISTIANRICARDO
Address: Jl.Gunung Sitoli
Postal Code: 26814
Province > City: Sumatera Utara > Nias
Country: Indonesia
Phone: 6281382096102810

CRISTIANRICARDO
Jl.Samosir
Parapat City
Other Province
Indonesia
Zip Code: 26192

Tel: 6276728439202
Fax:
Website:
http://cristian12.en.supplierlist.com

Company Name:
CRISTIANRICARDO ( Indonesia)

Company Address:Jl.Samosir

Postal Code:26192

Company Phone:62-813-4575977767

Company Fax:62-813-4575977767

Contact Person:Mr. Cristian Ricardo Owner

Mobile Phone:62-8136469980869


Hi Cristian, you still advertise the Mojo on several websites. I don\'t believe you want to ship my bike. I don\'t get any contact. Maybe on this way. You promised me to ship the bike on 14.th of September. Now I want to get the tracking number. If you don\'t want to close our deal let me know. You have 2 opportunities. Send back my 640 USD without any complication or sending the bike. I allways told you that I will pay the rest of our deal after getting the bike. Why don\'t you fulfill our agreement. If you have any problems with your provider let me know. You also are not available under your cellphone. You can be sure if I don\'t get any answer I will contact the indonesian ambassy in Berlin to create further steps to get my money back. So you can decide till end of this week. Patrik 2010 Ibis Mojo SL
September 27, 2010



PLEASE POST IT AROUND THE WORLD, EVERYWHERE, TO SAVE ANOTHER PEOPLE FROM THIS RIDICULOUS SCAM !!!!

inferno79

Above is one victims messedge, what i found in internet. Seeems not just me has been foolished. Finally i lost 900$

zeelkh

I would like to notify that the web site PT.SANTAULUSSPORT.COM (http://santaulussport.com/) is a SCAM shop.

Acc name: Yusep
Acc Num.: 131-00-0774852-0
Bank Name: BANK MANDIRI
Swift Code: BMRIIDJA
Country: INDONESIA
Address: Jl. Setia Budi no 15

And the web site UTAMA STORE (http://utama-store.com/) is a copy of the PT.SANTAULUSSPORT.COM.

SCAM web site has a common signature for the product description (see http://santaulussport.com/products/GT-T ... -Bike.html).
* component grossary(Shifters, Cassette, Front Hub, Rear Hub, ...)
* order of the component (starts with Frame, Forks, Cranks, Bottom Bracket, ... and ends with ... Saddle, Seat Post, Seat Clamp)

Be cafeful !
(Especially If you a japanese... 2ch(http://yuzuru.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/bicycle/1316571108/ など)を参照し、インドネシア・ルーマニア・ナイジェリアが「世界三大ネット詐欺震源地」であることや、価格が破格であることや小物を扱っていない特徴に気を付けてください)

chooka

http://www.king-cycle.net/

Legit??!! :roll:

almost bought a bike and groupset from this site! lol..that alibaba site is evil I've been trolling it for a new frameset and wheels many of which from Indonesian sites with minimal information because so CHEAP!

ShutUpLegs

Hi - is the bike still for sale :?: