I like the idea of the Hope, I use two...one on the Stinky and one on the Shred, never ever had a problem with them (If you know how to fit them properly, they work well) Use a SFN on the Phase. Both got pros n cons. Prefer the Hope myself.
I like the idea of the Hope, I use two...one on the Stinky and one on the Shred, never ever had a problem with them (If you know how to fit them properly, they work well) Use a SFN on the Phase. Both got pros n cons. Prefer the Hope myself.
I'm trying reeeeealy hard to NOT be a censored , but how can you 'prefer' one or the other. They look the same when fitted. They do the exact same job, exaclty to the same standard.
SFN is probably a bit lighter too.....
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I like the idea of the Hope, I use two...one on the Stinky and one on the Shred, never ever had a problem with them (If you know how to fit them properly, they work well) Use a SFN on the Phase. Both got pros n cons. Prefer the Hope myself.
I'm trying reeeeealy hard to NOT be a censored , but how can you 'prefer' one or the other. They look the same when fitted. They do the exact same job, exaclty to the same standard.
SFN is probably a bit lighter too.....
I'm also trying reeeeealy hard NOT to be a censored , but it's quite easy to prefer one over the other. Hopehead can be re-used over n over, you dont need to mess around with bashing down SFN's, when you often swap forks for different styles of riding the Hope is easily adjusted for different stems, the Hope is quick to install and the Hope, I think pre-loads the bearings better. Saying ''how can you prefer one over the other'' is like saying ''how can you prefer a home made chip over a chip shop chip'' :shock:
when you often swap forks for different styles of riding the Hope is easily adjusted for different stems
Um. What?
LOL what?
i have 2 in my tool box as they came with the headsets.
tome they are still a fit and forget as they can be a right royal pain to remove.
yes expanding plugs have their place and price and weight.
and then you have the problem of some forks where they are a tight fit and the bottom of the steerer is almost closed.(or closed) then they are a pain.
"Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail." Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
when you often swap forks for different styles of riding the Hope is easily adjusted for different stems
Um. What?
LOL what?
i have 2 in my tool box as they came with the headsets.
tome they are still a fit and forget as they can be a right royal pain to remove.
yes expanding plugs have their place and price and weight.
and then you have the problem of some forks where they are a tight fit and the bottom of the steerer is almost closed.(or closed) then they are a pain.
LOL came out wrong, I meant if you upgrade or swap froks you can take out the Hope and re-use it instead of buying another SFN. Got caught up in the moment...
when you often swap forks for different styles of riding the Hope is easily adjusted for different stems
Um. What?
LOL what?
i have 2 in my tool box as they came with the headsets.
tome they are still a fit and forget as they can be a right royal pain to remove.
yes expanding plugs have their place and price and weight.
and then you have the problem of some forks where they are a tight fit and the bottom of the steerer is almost closed.(or closed) then they are a pain.
LOL came out wrong, I meant if you upgrade or swap froks you can take out the Hope and re-use it instead of buying another SFN. Got caught up in the moment...
Incidentally, does anyone want to buy a Head Doctor? Came with my new headset, never used, because I have made a lifestyle choice and gone the way of the SFN
Incidentally, does anyone want to buy a Head Doctor? Came with my new headset, never used, because I have made a lifestyle choice and gone the way of the SFN
but you are using the Hope top cap and bolt aren't you.
"Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail." Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
While I accept the evidence that SFN works and I also accept that it isn't an always on item (the stem clamping the steerer, with SFN only being properly used for pre-load) I still don't like it ... it's just not a proper fixing. As a fixing method, there's no way I would have got it passed the guys who used to check our calcs for construction work (at least not without an ars3 load of testing and a 300 page installation manual). it just seems to be a dirty way of doing the job.
..... so I use a Head doctor, even though they're heavier more complicated, more expensive and the evidence says I don't need to. shrug.
I can't ride a lefty either and that *is* structurally justifiable on paper. I just feel like I'm going to fall off all the time, watching the wheel exiting stage right as my face hits the trail.
must be something in my brain.
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Beer in moderation ... is a waste of beer
If riding an XC race bike is like touching the trail,
then riding a rigid singlespeed is like licking it
... or being punched by it, depending on the day
Admitting to being a bike thief on bike forum? You should have stolen a bike more suited to your forks.
Anyway I use both HD and SFN...both work fine. Iif I was building a bike I'd use a HD as there just easier and you get a second chance if you censored it up when installing.
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what has that got to do with the question?
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SFN is probably a bit lighter too.....
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I'm also trying reeeeealy hard NOT to be a censored , but it's quite easy to prefer one over the other. Hopehead can be re-used over n over, you dont need to mess around with bashing down SFN's, when you often swap forks for different styles of riding the Hope is easily adjusted for different stems, the Hope is quick to install and the Hope, I think pre-loads the bearings better. Saying ''how can you prefer one over the other'' is like saying ''how can you prefer a home made chip over a chip shop chip'' :shock:
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who gave you the authority to say that?!
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thats not in the bible... but it should be
Um. What?
LOL what?
i have 2 in my tool box as they came with the headsets.
tome they are still a fit and forget as they can be a right royal pain to remove.
yes expanding plugs have their place and price and weight.
and then you have the problem of some forks where they are a tight fit and the bottom of the steerer is almost closed.(or closed) then they are a pain.
Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
LOL came out wrong, I meant if you upgrade or swap froks you can take out the Hope and re-use it instead of buying another SFN. Got caught up in the moment...
They cost pennies. Thats a poor argument to use.
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Fix it 'till it's broke
nope as a for the cost of one head doc you could but 15 sfns with caps and sell the 14 spare caps and still have a pint. so would take much less time.
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but you are using the Hope top cap and bolt aren't you.
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Oh and I prefer Head Doctors *runs and hides*
..... so I use a Head doctor, even though they're heavier more complicated, more expensive and the evidence says I don't need to. shrug.
I can't ride a lefty either and that *is* structurally justifiable on paper. I just feel like I'm going to fall off all the time, watching the wheel exiting stage right as my face hits the trail.
must be something in my brain.
Beer in moderation ... is a waste of beer
If riding an XC race bike is like touching the trail,
then riding a rigid singlespeed is like licking it
... or being punched by it, depending on the day
Admitting to being a bike thief on bike forum? You should have stolen a bike more suited to your forks.
Anyway I use both HD and SFN...both work fine. Iif I was building a bike I'd use a HD as there just easier and you get a second chance if you censored it up when installing.
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