Keep losing weight when I want to be putting it on!

salsajake
salsajake Posts: 702
I'm of the (possibly misguided) view, but I've taken it anyway, that being in the lower half of the BMI index and doing generally quite a lot of physical activity might make me more susceptible to illness than if I had a bit more heft about me. Because I almost exclusively cycled and walked for exercise last year, I have no real upper body mass at all. So I figured I would try to make amends this year with adding some swimming and weights and keeping an eye on my weight (which I have never done) mainly to see if it is dropping so I can eat more accordingly and hopefully stay better (was off ill for 24 days last year, which was by far by worst ever, colds, stomach bugs, viruses etc).

As well as eating plenty of healthy stuff during the day, would whey protein after each commute ride or training session be a good idea to help boost and then maintain weight? Are there any other tips, like do hydration levels have any effect at all on ability to hold body mass?

According to my wife's WIiFit I lost 3lbs in the last week, despite not really exercising much and eating what I thought was quite a bit. I'd rather look to gain and hold 9lbs or so going into the summer if anything.

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Swap you.
  • Ha, whenever I bring this topic up with females in particular, they seem to look at me funny... My Wiifit goal is to gain 2lbs in 2 weeks and I have never managed to do it, but it won't let me change the goal length so I'm at a loss as to how to do it other than eat pies and cake and drink beer, but I think that would defeat the object of it hopefully making me healthier!
  • rake
    rake Posts: 3,204
    try mcdonalds. you might have a tape worm.
  • rake wrote:
    try mcdonalds. you might have a tape worm.

    I think the mcdonalds can go into the pies cakes and beers category, plus it never ever fills you up anyway so not sure how it can have that many calories in it.

    Tape worm is an interesting theory - would be annoying to be feeding him rather than me!
  • rokkala
    rokkala Posts: 649
    Body weight fluctuates throughout the day. I can wake up in the morning and be 11st5, and be up to 5lbs heavier in the evening.

    Eat more!
  • Al_38
    Al_38 Posts: 277
    If you are trying to gain weight I personally find i need to eat a huge amount more than normal to really sustain it. My body seems to resist going above 73 kgs unless i really really try.

    Also if you are doing weight training then any muscle gain should increase your metabolism, as muscle requires more calories simply to exist than fat. As has already been said eat more - you have to put on a bit of fat to gain muscle too really. I find eating a lot of protein helps - something like 3g/kg of bodyweight a day, clearly you only absorb part of this but it seems to work for me.
  • Ands
    Ands Posts: 1,437
    Hi, not sure if this will help but here is a link with what I found to be a good article about increasing muscle mass. (I tend to forget to eat quite often so I am losing weight when I don't want to.)

    http://www.ausport.gov.au/ais/nutrition ... uscle_mass

    There is also good info on building immune function on some of the other pages.
  • Roscobob
    Roscobob Posts: 344
    salsajake wrote:
    I'm of the (possibly misguided) view, but I've taken it anyway, that being in the lower half of the BMI index and doing generally quite a lot of physical activity might make me more susceptible to illness than if I had a bit more heft about me. Because I almost exclusively cycled and walked for exercise last year, I have no real upper body mass at all. So I figured I would try to make amends this year with adding some swimming and weights and keeping an eye on my weight (which I have never done) mainly to see if it is dropping so I can eat more accordingly and hopefully stay better (was off ill for 24 days last year, which was by far by worst ever, colds, stomach bugs, viruses etc).

    As well as eating plenty of healthy stuff during the day, would whey protein after each commute ride or training session be a good idea to help boost and then maintain weight? Are there any other tips, like do hydration levels have any effect at all on ability to hold body mass?

    According to my wife's WIiFit I lost 3lbs in the last week, despite not really exercising much and eating what I thought was quite a bit. I'd rather look to gain and hold 9lbs or so going into the summer if anything.

    Boo-fucking-hoo

    :lol:
  • salsajake wrote:
    I'm of the (possibly misguided) view, but I've taken it anyway, that being in the lower half of the BMI index and doing generally quite a lot of physical activity might make me more susceptible to illness than if I had a bit more heft about me.

    I think your opening assumption is wrong. By all means swim & weight train if you want, but I don't think it will have any effect on your immune system. Instead, take a very good look at your diet and sleep patterns - changing what you eat in particular can have a massive effect. Cut out refined sugars, caffeine, alcholol, and increase fruit and veg consumption at the expense of meat and dairy. Also, if you're training lots, are you getting enough sleep?
  • To gain weight you need to eat more energy than you burn. Do you know how much you burn (kcalories?) during exercise? Do you have a very active job? Getting lots of calories in can be quite a task - you need a good mixture of carbs, healthy fats (from fish, nuts etc) and protein. If you eat more you'll probably get the extra protein anyway so whey products might be a waste of time. BUT....
    If you're BMI is within the healthy range - albeit low - why change it? If you're health is worrying you look at other factors too - what quality food you eat, multivitimins, sleep, rest, hand hygeine etc etc. If you decide to stay the same weight you might find a regular intake of whey protein helps your immune system - becuase you wont be eating loads of extra food....lots of ifs buts and maybes tho' ... sorry!
  • I think the whole area is ifs buts and maybes. My sleep last year was terrible, more due to 2 kids under 2 years old than anything else, and its bound to have had an effect, possibly compounded by doing quite a lot of cycling (my commute is 35 miles a day and is pretty hilly (2530' height gain a day) and that (though I only averaged it about 2 days a week I think over the year, but often did 4 days a week in summer and rarely 5 days a week), with lack of sleep probably took its toll.

    Think I'll try some whey protein anyway and see what the effect, if any, is.
  • SOunds like you've been taxing your powers of recuperation - lack of sleep, lots of exercise, young kids and all thier inherent germs.... give whey and a good multivitimin & mineral a go for a few weeks and see how you feel. If theres no change then dont buy them again but I suspect you will notice a difference in wellness if not an increase in weight... and try to get some more shut eye! Good luck!
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    I'm gaining a pound of body fat a day right now.
  • SOunds like you've been taxing your powers of recuperation - lack of sleep, lots of exercise, young kids and all thier inherent germs.... give whey and a good multivitimin & mineral a go for a few weeks and see how you feel. If theres no change then dont buy them again but I suspect you will notice a difference in wellness if not an increase in weight... and try to get some more shut eye! Good luck!

    that sounds like a good approach so I'll have a go on that until my newly ordered tub of protein has run out and assess how I have felt (plus of course see if my commute times fall and any weight reps/weight rise!)

    The body weight issue is likely to be a side issue, but it may still be worth making sure I don't fall too far below where I am now, which would indicate I am overdoing it in terms of not eating enough and therefore risk exhausting myself.
  • LangerDan
    LangerDan Posts: 6,132
    If you can sort some form of liposuction / transfusion equipment, I could probably send you 6 - 8kg by return post.
    'This week I 'ave been mostly been climbing like Basso - Shirley Basso.'
  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,464
    Do you suffer from being thirsty a lot? It could be you have diabetes or over active thyroid or something but most likely you just aren't taking on board as many calories as you are using up. It's amazing how small a difference in daily calorie intake it can sometimes take to go from maintaining / putting on weight to losing it. Try exercising less or eating more (you can still eat healthily, just more quantity).
  • i'm not especially thirsty, I think its just using lots of calories a day. I'm making a real effort to keep snacking on healthy stuff during the day, and having a protein shake (c20g protein) in the evening). Will see how that fares
  • Protein shake in itself wont do much - from memory it wont provide more than 100-150 kcal unless you mix it with full fat milk which will up eth enregy content a bit....but if you carry on losing weight teh poster above had a point - diabetes can make you lose weight (lack of insulin means you dont 'store' as well as others or a small thyroid problem that has upped your basal metabolic rate a bit - both are treatable so dont hesitate to get checked if teh weight loss carries on!
  • Barrie_G
    Barrie_G Posts: 479
    Try mixing the whey with maltodextrin to up the calorie count, take it 2-3 times a day and after exercise
  • I will be having 2x protein shakes once the bulk stuff arrives (working through some samples at the moment), and i always have maltodextrin during the ride in and the ride back, 7 scoops mixed into a bike bottle of water. The Wii suggests I have gained a bit of weight, so will have to see over a more extended period than just this week. Thanks for the tips
  • rake
    rake Posts: 3,204
    you might want some rennies with the protein powder. youl be gassed up like a cart horse.
  • rake wrote:
    you might want some rennies with the protein powder. youl be gassed up like a cart horse.

    seriously? They are only mixed into 250ml, 25g a time. Ah well, some nice savoury air biscuits to sample
  • EKIMIKE
    EKIMIKE Posts: 2,232
    I remeber reading somewhere (some expert) saying that a spoonful of peanut butter after every meal helps with weight gain.
  • wtb tapeworm
  • obizzle wrote:
    wtb tapeworm

    The second word is tapeworm the first arrangement of letters I have no idea, but it isn't English.