Cadburys' chocolate is bound to get worse...

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  • if you want some "real chocolate " pay the premium
  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    I'm not in favour of our industry being bought up by foreign business but it does make me laugh when people go on about how "businesses are only after profit" when that has been true for thousands of years. It also amuses me when people moan about "shareholders" when there's a fair chance that their own savings and/or pension are invested in companies like Cadbury. It's because of business's making a profit that your savings earns you interest or your pension goes up in value, don't see them complaining about that!
    +1 to the above
    The Cadbury shareholder have made a profit from the sale. Some of this profit will go into our pensions (good thing) and some will be invested into other company as investment and create jobs, etc (also good thing).

    Yes, there will be initial profit but, ultimately, when Kraft starts closing UK factories and moving production abroad, will the price have been worth paying? Cadburys was doing fine without Kraft. The benefits of this deal are unlikely to benefit anyone in the UK actually doing the job of making chocolate.

    And good point by Inkyfingers - capitalism is about making money. Pretty much all private business is primarily concerned with making money - what they actually do to make it is secondary. Which is why it makes sense for the directors of Cadburys to accept the Kraft offer even though it means, in the long run, a glut of luxury loft dwellings becoming available in Bournville.
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  • teagar
    teagar Posts: 2,100
    I was with the understanding that recipes never stay the same in all chocolate bars/soft drinks etc.


    They undergo gradual, unnoticable changes. Coca-cola messed it up in the 80s when the change was too radical.

    I've been told by people in the industry that if you were to taste say, heinz ketchup now, and 20 years ago, it'd taste very different.
    Note: the above post is an opinion and not fact. It might be a lie.
  • teagar wrote:
    I was with the understanding that recipes never stay the same in all chocolate bars/soft drinks etc.
    .

    I believe that that recipes are also different dependent on the country, Mars bars in the Caribean (and the Far East IIRC) taste different, I'm told because there is an additive to stop them melting so easily.
  • pneumatic
    pneumatic Posts: 1,989
    Cadbury's don't make chocolate - it's just coloured fat. As for what they put inside it, FFS, what IS that palate-twisting acidic goo in a creme egg?? Those things are like extras from an Alien movie. UUURRRGGG!

    My last two cars have been a Vauxhall Astra and a SAAB Vector - all the things that have gone wrong with both were down to shoddy manufacturing by GM. The only advantage of the SAAB is the wonderful engine.

    Sadly, there are very few mass-produced consumer goods of any real quality. Perhaps we are just not prepared to pay for craftspersonship any more.


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  • beverick
    beverick Posts: 3,461
    pneumatic wrote:

    The only advantage of the SAAB is the wonderful engine.

    Would that be the GM Europe 'Ecotec' unit, Cadillac LPx or the Alfa "JD" block you're applauding?
  • passout
    passout Posts: 4,425
    It's a bit of shame but I don't really care about this product; a massive food company isn't really part of our heritage in my view. Recipes and food types maybe but not a factory in Brum or wherever it is!
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  • Clever Pun
    Clever Pun Posts: 6,778
    passout wrote:
    It's a bit of shame but I don't really care about this product; a massive food company isn't really part of our heritage in my view. Recipes and food types maybe but not a factory in Brum or wherever it is!

    Didn't start out like that did it??

    it's Green and Blacks that'll get hit tastewise I reckon

    Also Milka is already owned by kraft which isn't that bad

    FWIW
    Hersheys is the worst chocolate I've ever tasted...vile brown stuff
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  • lastant
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    Clever Pun wrote:
    it's Green and Blacks that'll get hit tastewise I reckon

    Well, well, well...never knew G&Bs were owned by Cadbury Schweppes - how is that not more common knowledge?!

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  • prawny
    prawny Posts: 5,440
    Clever Pun wrote:
    FWIW
    Hersheys is the worst chocolate I've ever tasted...vile brown stuff

    Bzzzzt Incorrect - I've just nailed (not sexually, although I would) a pack of reeses peanut butter cups made by herschey - delicious!

    The worst chocolate ever is cadbury's bournville - bleuch!
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  • Cressers wrote:
    SAAB, on the point of bankruptcy. And i can't thinkl of many US takeovers that have resulted in greater employment and better product.

    Apple taking over Pixar and many other companies
  • pneumatic
    pneumatic Posts: 1,989
    beverick wrote:
    pneumatic wrote:

    The only advantage of the SAAB is the wonderful engine.

    Would that be the GM Europe 'Ecotec' unit, Cadillac LPx or the Alfa "JD" block you're applauding?

    Nope, the SAAB diesel engine.


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  • Cressers
    Cressers Posts: 1,329
    I've noticed that the taste/recipies seem to have changed over time. What with metrication, decimalisation, flow-wrapping, price rises and portion size reductions, what we used to eat, and what we eat now are very different.
  • bagpusscp
    bagpusscp Posts: 2,907
    Shafted by the good olde USA twice in one week.
    1st we get sub prime chesse spread shares
    2nd They use RBS { UK Tax payers money to do it.}

    Oh and 3rd the US hits RBS shares and Barclays who puchased the best bits of Lemann Bros.
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  • bagpusscp
    bagpusscp Posts: 2,907
    Shafted again :!:
    :!: :!: This is is freeezzzziiinnnnn cccccccccollldddddddddd'
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2cHkMwz ... re=related
    bagpuss
  • dilemna
    dilemna Posts: 2,187
    bagpusscp wrote:
    Shafted by the good olde USA twice in one week.
    1st we get sub prime chesse spread shares
    2nd They use RBS { UK Tax payers money to do it.}

    Oh and 3rd the US hits RBS shares and Barclays who puchased the best bits of Lemann Bros.
    Don't tell me there is nothing going on here :x :x :x :x :x and cue music.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAa5rP64YbQ

    And RBS can find £11 billion of UK tax payers money to finance the deal for Kraft to buy Cadburys, but they can't or won't give any where near that amount to help UK businesses that are struggling. Kraft is mired in debt. It is a disgrace that f*cking NuLiebour have allowed this to go through. £11 billion to make 4,500 British workers redundant who will then claim UNEMPLOYMENT benefit - more expense. The French Government would NEVER have allowed this to happen in France. Gordon Broon and his f*cking Scottish cronies have ruined and pretty much bankrupted this country. The amount of the UK debt is now 60% of GDP .............. NuLiebour have ruined this country once again. They did it in the 1970s and they have done it again. Never let them in government again - BLOODY FOOLS.
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  • alfablue
    alfablue Posts: 8,497
    So you want to completely wreck the banking system (and the economy) through government intervention . . . I am not sure that you are in a strong position to call people bloody fools. Just yesterday the US and UK stock market took a serious dive because of noises Obama has been making about banking.
  • nicensleazy
    nicensleazy Posts: 2,310
    Sad news indeed!
  • bagpusscp
    bagpusscp Posts: 2,907
    dilemna wrote:
    bagpusscp wrote:
    Shafted by the good olde USA twice in one week.
    1st we get sub prime chesse spread shares
    2nd They use RBS { UK Tax payers money to do it.}

    Oh and 3rd the US hits RBS shares and Barclays who puchased the best bits of Lemann Bros.
    Don't tell me there is nothing going on here :x :x :x :x :x and cue music.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAa5rP64YbQ

    And RBS can find £11 billion of UK tax payers money to finance the deal for Kraft to buy Cadburys, but they can't or won't give any where near that amount to help UK businesses that are struggling. Kraft is mired in debt. It is a disgrace that f*cking NuLiebour have allowed this to go through. £11 billion to make 4,500 British workers redundant who will then claim UNEMPLOYMENT benefit - more expense. The French Government would NEVER have allowed this to happen in France. Gordon Broon and his f*cking Scottish cronies have ruined and pretty much bankrupted this country. The amount of the UK debt is now 60% of GDP .............. NuLiebour have ruined this country once again. They did it in the 1970s and they have done it again. Never let them in government again - BLOODY FOOLS.

    It is called asset stripping.US banks will not lend them the money to do it.They have'nt any.
    Plus regs on how they can spend bail out cash
    So a British bank gets suckered again :x
    bagpuss
  • How can Cadbury's crap get any worse than it already is?
  • bagpusscp
    bagpusscp Posts: 2,907
    bagpuss
  • beverick
    beverick Posts: 3,461
    pneumatic wrote:
    beverick wrote:
    pneumatic wrote:

    The only advantage of the SAAB is the wonderful engine.

    ?

    Nope, the SAAB diesel engine.

    Ok correction, would that be the GM Europe 'Ecotec' unit or the Alfa "JD" block you're applauding.

    Of course if it's an older SAAb you could be talking about the earlier Opel block.

    Bob