Cadburys' chocolate is bound to get worse...
Cressers
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http://www.businessinsider.com/cadbury- ... fer-2010-1
"A glass and a half in every bar" which means less cocao...
No doubt things will get even worse now they've been taken over by Kraft, have you tasted Amercican chocolate? Last year the Food Standards Agency were consulting about limiting the size of chocolate bars to 'fight obesity', they ought to concentrate on ensuring that we actually get some chocolate in our chocolate...
"A glass and a half in every bar" which means less cocao...
No doubt things will get even worse now they've been taken over by Kraft, have you tasted Amercican chocolate? Last year the Food Standards Agency were consulting about limiting the size of chocolate bars to 'fight obesity', they ought to concentrate on ensuring that we actually get some chocolate in our chocolate...
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I doubt Kraft will have any influence over the recipe of the chocolate, they are after all wanting to run a viable business having just paid a chunk for it and alienating the customer base wouldn't lend itself to continued good sales.
There is a definite element of xenophobia here, General Motors didn't churn out a series of rebadged American motors when it bought Saab for example. Looking at it in a positive way, Kraft are saying they will keep open a factory Cadbury were intending to close.0 -
I suppose when the recipie is so debased and consumers so undiscrimniating it'd be hard to notice any further debasing.
SAAB, on the point of bankruptcy. And i can't thinkl of many US takeovers that have resulted in greater employment and better product.0 -
They seem to want so much they have upped the offer. It is up to the shareholders to decide what is best for them. Tht, unforunately, is the nature of business. Companies get sold because someone wants to make some money.
The price is right - Come on down!
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Yes, your livelyhood is up for sale...0
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Cressers wrote:http://www.businessinsider.com/cadbury-gives-in-accepts-kraft-offer-2010-1
No doubt things will get even worse now they've been taken over by Kraft
I'm confused, how could Cadbury's chocolate possibly get worse?!0 -
Eat some American 'chocolate' and find out...0
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Cressers wrote:Eat some American 'chocolate' and find out...
Apart from almond mars bars which are lovely 8)0 -
Heckler1974 wrote:There is a definite element of xenophobia here, General Motors didn't churn out a series of rebadged American motors when it bought Saab for example.
No, it turned out a series of rebadged Vauxhalls before it started rebadging American motors as Saabs. Basically, Saab, via GM, gradually lost its distinctiveness which is why it now isn't really worth anything. Of course, Saab provided a market that probably wouldn't be viable now anyway but it is certainly not a comforting analogy to choose. It was Kraft that closed Frys and turned the Chocolate Orange into a foreign product.
Still, a windfall for the share holders so that's OK then......Faster than a tent.......0 -
Rolf F wrote:No, it turned out a series of rebadged Vauxhalls before it started rebadging American motors as Saabs. Basically, Saab, via GM, gradually lost its distinctiveness which is why it now isn't really worth anything. Of course, Saab provided a market that probably wouldn't be viable now anyway but it is certainly not a comforting analogy to choose...
Well strictly speaking most of GM products shared components (the floor pan springs to mind) which is an economy of scale that you could argue kept a number of the marques in business when individually they would've gone under. The car industry as a whole seems to have gone toilet so perhaps not a comforting analogy but I can't see the market for chocolate following a similar decline somehow unless of course the Cresser future of any bar as long as it's Hershey comes to pass.
Just playing Devil's advocaaat really, to counter the usual 'A british institution lost to Johnny Foreigner, it's a disaster' type hyperbole.0 -
Heckler1974 wrote:Just playing Devil's advocaaat really, to counter the usual 'A british institution lost to Johnny Foreigner, it's a disaster' type hyperbole.
I know what you mean but ultimately this sort of thing is why we will take many more years to get out of the recession than the rest of Europe. If we don't value our own interests we can hardly expect others to.Faster than a tent.......0 -
Rolf F wrote:I know what you mean but ultimately this sort of thing is why we will take many more years to get out of the recession than the rest of Europe. If we don't value our own interests we can hardly expect others to.
Indeed, we don't seem to produce much as a country any more do we?
Next thing you know they'll be making Kendall mint cake in the far east.......
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Kraft make Dairylea and call it 'cheese'. :shock:
I rest my case. 8)Cycling weakly0 -
skyd0g wrote:Kraft make Dairylea and call it 'cheese'. :shock:
I rest my case. 8)
They also make Kenco and call it coffee :shock:0 -
I'm confused, how could Cadbury's chocolate possibly get worse?!
+1. Horrible stuff.0 -
Cadburys chocolate tastes ok at first, but it gives me an unusual feeling at the back of my mouth, can't really explain it.0
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Kraft potentially taking over Cadbury's is a big deal in my part of the world. There's a large Cadbury's factory in Keynsham (south of bristol) that has had the threat of 500 job losses hovering over it for the past couple of years so they see the takeover as a good thing....
http://www.savecadburys.co.uk/news
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/daveharvey/2 ... nsham.htmlLet's close our eyes and see what happens0 -
a good thing in terms of keeping those jobs going. But the americans will just put cancer into the chocolate. And bad Aids. Not so good then, huh?
We're dooomed.
cheers
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I totally agree. We've lost that lovely cadbury's taste, best chocolate in the world imo, because anyone born and bred in the UK have grown up with that taste.0
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Heckler1974 wrote:I doubt Kraft will have any influence over the recipe of the chocolate, they are after all wanting to run a viable business having just paid a chunk for it and alienating the customer base wouldn't lend itself to continued good sales.
There is a definite element of xenophobia here, General Motors didn't churn out a series of rebadged American motors when it bought Saab for example. Looking at it in a positive way, Kraft are saying they will keep open a factory Cadbury were intending to close.
Just how naive can anyone be.
In 1993 Kraft took over Terry's of York with a promise that they wouldn't meddle in the running of the company and that production in the UK was safe.
Within 10 years, the diverse range of products made at Terry's factory in York at the time of the takeover, had been reduced to an increased range of Chocolate Orange and All Gold - both of which were made to different recipes.
By 2005, production of the remaining products had moved to Poland.
Basically they lied then and I'm willing to wager that they're lying now.
GM didn't "rebadge" American cars - are you serious - just WTF do you think the 9-3 is then? Try the Cadillac BLS - just in a different dress. The 9-5 is the same only it's a based on an Opel Vectra. Sure they look like previous SAABs but underneath they're rebadged GM cast-offs.
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It would be very difficult to make Cadbury's Vegelate any worse! :evil:0
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I'm not in favour of our industry being bought up by foreign business but it does make me laugh when people go on about how "businesses are only after profit" when that has been true for thousands of years. It also amuses me when people moan about "shareholders" when there's a fair chance that their own savings and/or pension are invested in companies like Cadbury. It's because of business's making a profit that your savings earns you interest or your pension goes up in value, don't see them complaining about that!"I have a lovely photo of a Camargue horse but will not post it now" (Frenchfighter - July 2013)0
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I'm an occasional red Bounty chomper, so my chocolate treat will remain just so.
I love the taste of paradise I do..... or was that the tag line on Turkish Delights?0 -
shortnwide wrote:Cressers wrote:http://www.businessinsider.com/cadbury-gives-in-accepts-kraft-offer-2010-1
No doubt things will get even worse now they've been taken over by Kraft
I'm confused, how could Cadbury's chocolate possibly get worse?!
Indeed, is it even chocolate or simply coloured fat?0 -
Indeed, is it even chocolate or simply coloured fat?
shhhh. don't spoil it for the people who think it's actually got lots of milk and cocoa in it.0 -
+1 to the aboveinkyfingers wrote:I'm not in favour of our industry being bought up by foreign business but it does make me laugh when people go on about how "businesses are only after profit" when that has been true for thousands of years. It also amuses me when people moan about "shareholders" when there's a fair chance that their own savings and/or pension are invested in companies like Cadbury. It's because of business's making a profit that your savings earns you interest or your pension goes up in value, don't see them complaining about that!
The Cadbury shareholder have made a profit from the sale. Some of this profit will go into our pensions (good thing) and some will be invested into other company as investment and create jobs, etc (also good thing).0 -
beverick wrote:Just how naive can anyone be.
Naive enough to believe that arguments go better without reduction to argumentum ad hominem.
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