Lazy, lazy, workshy fops!

Stewie Griffin

Got in in less time than it takes on a normal day, main roads are clear of snow and cars. No hunting for a space to park, wish it was like this everyday. Walking not much fun though, nearly went bottom over bosom several times .

Blonde

Hmm making an effort for someone meant jackknifing their lorry across three motorway lanes on the M60. That's what caused us to spend 3 hours doing 7 miles before tuning round for home. As we set off there was actually a car "parked" sideways on at the end of our street, it's front bumber in a fence. I now think that really ought to have convinced us to stay at home, but for some reason it didn't and we ploughed on. We set off for work at 7:00 but after 3 hours (it usually takes 25/30 mins to do the 12 mile journey) and a total of 7 miles, we turned back and got home at 11:00 (having left car at the end of the street as there wasn't enough traction to get it up the hill) to find an email from work saying they were shutting at 12:00. Good thing we saw sense after three hours and turned back or I'd have got to work at midday only to find they had shut anyway. Making an effort yesterday was pointless, put us and others at risk, stressed my partner who was driving, and just added to the general traffic chaos and congestion, so we won't be doing it again!

simonaspinall

There is a way people: Jetpac!

redddraggon

Blonde wrote:

Hmm making an effort for someone meant jackknifing their lorry across three motorway lanes on the M60. That's what caused us to spend 3 hours doing 7 miles before tuning round for home. As we set off there was actually a car "parked" sideways on at the end of our street, it's front bumber in a fence. I now think that really ought to have convinced us to stay at home, but for some reason it didn't and we ploughed on. We set off for work at 7:00 but after 3 hours (it usually takes 25/30 mins to do the 12 mile journey) and a total of 7 miles, we turned back and got home at 11:00 (having left car at the end of the street as there wasn't enough traction to get it up the hill) to find an email from work saying they were shutting at 12:00. Good thing we saw sense after three hours and turned back or I'd have got to work at midday only to find they had shut anyway. Making an effort yesterday was pointless, put us and others at risk, stressed my partner who was driving, and just added to the general traffic chaos and congestion, so we won't be doing it again!

You work at Manchester Uni?

Allez Mark

Tried to use the car but got stuck. Me and a few of the neighbours cleared the snow from our road so we could get the cars safe. Got back to the house to find the central heating had broke down. I discovered the was due to a burst pipe in the kitchen. Walked about 1/2 a mile to the main road where I got a lift. Arrived at work 4 hours late.

Blonde

redddraggon wrote:

You work at Manchester Uni?

Yes! Haven't cycled in for about four weeks though, due to crappy weather - and holidays.

theregster

To be fair, it is worth some Civil Servants doing all they can in making the effort to get to the office.

Following the snow in February this year, some public sector employees actually received a bonus for going to their work place. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/colu ... bonus.html

The bonus was on top of their salary. I'm sure Her Majesty's Government will oblige again this time around.

Come on people, in these times of huge public borrowing deficit, don't chastise those who battle through the wrong type of snow and make use of subsidised parking to earn a little extra

Bhima

NapoleonD wrote:

When we (the police) offered to go and collect some of the airport staff all of a sudden there was lots of uncomfortable squirmings and wrigglings...

Had 3 job interviews over xmas at the airport for various jobs and got lectured constantly about how they expect dedication and people with "a passion" for the job. :? I mentioned the snow and told them i'd get to work without fail even if I had to walk it. Maybe i'll get the job now!

Anonymous

I'm talking about people who work locally/within reasonable walking distance who didn't bother.

If it's genuine then I have no issue whatsoever...

A very large proportion of the staff here live in a small radius...

MattC59

I work from home, so getting snowed in doesn't really effect my ability to work....... although I've spent quite a lot of today out in the snow

My boss phoned me this morning to tell me that him and his mate have been towing each other up and down the street on a snowboard, with an old enfield motorbike...... both of them naked. I guess he's having a busy day !!!

If there's anyone in teh Fishponds area of Bristol, be warned, he's ginger, it can't be a pretty sight !!! (No offence to anyone who's ginger )

iain_j

Walked to and from work today - the roads are lethal and the buses are off. Three miles each way, took me just over an hour. If it was much further than that I'm not sure how I'd get there - definitely wouldn't try riding in these conditions.

daviesee

In over 30 years of working I have never missed a day due to the weather, including 5 years in Canada.

Working freelance means if I don't show, I don't get paid.

Draw your own conclusions.

Anonymous

daviesee wrote:

In over 30 years of working I have never missed a day due to the weather, including 5 years in Canada.

Working freelance means if I don't show, I don't get paid.

Draw your own conclusions.

Self discipline.

We need more of this.

gabriel959

What I don’t understand is why people don’t get snow chains for their cars?!?

OK, they are not cheap but are an inmense help if you live in a village far from gritted roads.

Le Commentateur

I know, but it's probably because the next winter they will be needed will be in about 20 years' time (and when even more people be working from home in any case).

ademort

Not been able to cycle at all this year due to the weather so travel with a colleague at the moment. However, we have been lucky that snow fall although frequent has not been heavy and that travel by car is possible on the main roads thanks to frequent gritting and the snowploughs.As for cycling on the cycle paths then its just impossible at the moment as the snow that has fallen is just frozen and leaves the paths like skating rings. This evening we expect heavy snowfall so travel by car tomorrow may be a problem and on top of that the council has announced that there is no more SALT until next week at the earliest and the Snowploughs will also not be utilised.Tomorrow we are faced with heavy snowfall, no gritters or snowploughs and cycle paths which are now unrideable. We have no public transport anywhere near where i work and if the worse comes to the worse then i will just have to stay at home. Only plus is that if i cant get to work then neither can anybody else.Its fair to say that the UK has had much more snow than here in the Netherlands but at the end of the day the result is the same,Chaos

pedylan

Commiserations Ademort

However, your post does help balance the media attack and outbreak of moaning we get here in the UK when it seems we're the only country in the world who can make quite such a mess of dealing with snowfall.

At least Holland's flat!

thejesusandsedischain

nap D is it only traffic cops that get training for winter/snow ice driving or do the drivers of the panda cars get some as well.

Limburger

ademort wrote:

Not been able to cycle at all this year due to the weather so travel with a colleague at the moment. However, we have been lucky that snow fall although frequent has not been heavy and that travel by car is possible on the main roads thanks to frequent gritting and the snowploughs.As for cycling on the cycle paths then its just impossible at the moment as the snow that has fallen is just frozen and leaves the paths like skating rings. This evening we expect heavy snowfall so travel by car tomorrow may be a problem and on top of that the council has announced that there is no more SALT until next week at the earliest and the Snowploughs will also not be utilised.Tomorrow we are faced with heavy snowfall, no gritters or snowploughs and cycle paths which are now unrideable. We have no public transport anywhere near where i work and if the worse comes to the worse then i will just have to stay at home. Only plus is that if i cant get to work then neither can anybody else.Its fair to say that the UK has had much more snow than here in the Netherlands but at the end of the day the result is the same,Chaos

Well that makes things look promising for my return on Friday. Good job the bike is kaput.

I've never seen a snow plough or gritter in Holland except for a mini one on the cycle path.

Just for my information, where are you in the NL? How in the venerable NS holding up?
I'll stay at home if its all gone pear shaped.

MrChuck

Tail end Charlie wrote:

I think the number of people who are truly unable to get in for work are few and far between. Most of us are within walking distance of a bus route if need be and yes, it may take longer but what do you expect. When people say they are snowed in, what they mean is I want to come in my car and won't consider any other way.

+1
I'm sure there are lots of people who would genuinely struggle if they couldn't drive, and obviously there's a limit to the time/effort you can reasonably expect people to make, but I think there are plenty of people who could get in without too much bother even if they can't get their car out of their street.

Anonymous

thejesusandsedischain wrote:

nap D is it only traffic cops that get training for winter/snow ice driving or do the drivers of the panda cars get some as well.

Certainly in Manchester all response drivers and above go on the skidpan / skidcar.

I got no specific training for winter / ice when I was doing my advanced, just more time on the skidcar...

Captain Fagor

Maybe someone could give some training to teachers on how to get off their lazy arses and get to their bloody jobs. I don't think schools close due to the dangers faced by kids getting to school - it's the public sector mentality of school teachers that's the root of the problem.

Professionals? Don't make me laugh.

MrChuck

Captain Fagor wrote:

Maybe someone could give some training to teachers on how to get off their lazy arses and get to their bloody jobs. I don't think schools close due to the dangers faced by kids getting to school - it's the public sector mentality of school teachers that's the root of the problem.

Professionals? Don't make me laugh.

I don't think you've really thought that through. I don't see that teachers should be held to a higher standard than anyone else when it comes to getting in in bad weather.

spanielsson

Captain Fagor wrote:

Maybe someone could give some training to teachers on how to get off their lazy arses and get to their bloody jobs. I don't think schools close due to the dangers faced by kids getting to school - it's the public sector mentality of school teachers that's the root of the problem.

Professionals? Don't make me laugh.

Are you a Daily Mail reading moron?! Or did you read that opinion in another tabloid?!

Do yourself a favor and try another perspective besides the one inside your own anus.

ademort

Limburger wrote:

ademort wrote:

Not been able to cycle at all this year due to the weather so travel with a colleague at the moment. However, we have been lucky that snow fall although frequent has not been heavy and that travel by car is possible on the main roads thanks to frequent gritting and the snowploughs.As for cycling on the cycle paths then its just impossible at the moment as the snow that has fallen is just frozen and leaves the paths like skating rings. This evening we expect heavy snowfall so travel by car tomorrow may be a problem and on top of that the council has announced that there is no more SALT until next week at the earliest and the Snowploughs will also not be utilised.Tomorrow we are faced with heavy snowfall, no gritters or snowploughs and cycle paths which are now unrideable. We have no public transport anywhere near where i work and if the worse comes to the worse then i will just have to stay at home. Only plus is that if i cant get to work then neither can anybody else.Its fair to say that the UK has had much more snow than here in the Netherlands but at the end of the day the result is the same,Chaos

Well that makes things look promising for my return on Friday. Good job the bike is kaput.

I've never seen a snow plough or gritter in Holland except for a mini one on the cycle path.

Just for my information, where are you in the NL? How in the venerable NS holding up?
I'll stay at home if its all gone pear shaped.

I,m in Middelburg, Zeeland. The NS has had a few problems but that changes throughout the day as to where and what.I wouldnt let it put you off coming back over on Friday as the cold weather is forecast to carry on at least until the end of next week, supose it depends on your employer or the type of work you do. Could you stay at home for another week or longer?Good luck anyway.
Ademort

Captain Fagor

MrChuck wrote:

I don't think you've really thought that through. I don't see that teachers should be held to a higher standard than anyone else when it comes to getting in in bad weather.

I am not trying to hold the teachers to a higher standard. Schools are the first to close when the rest of us continue to go to work. Most pupils live within a mile or two, and could (should) walk to school. Why can't the teachers get there? Then the parents either can't go to work, or they have to arrange childcare at short notice.

spanielsson

Captain Fagor wrote:

Why can't the teachers get there? Then the parents either can't go to work, or they have to arrange childcare at short notice.

Teachers don't close schools, they are shut to ensure the health and safety of the students.

Or do you see schools as a child minding service that become an inconvenience when they close in the best interests of often over 1000 people?

Captain Fagor

spanielsson wrote:

Teachers don't close schools, they are shut to ensure the health and safety of the students.

Or do you see schools as a child minding service that become an inconvenience when they close in the best interests of often over 1000 people?

I'm not a parent so no, that's not what I think.

Can you explain to me why my employer doesn't shut our building, which also houses in excess of 1000 people over seven floors? Is my health and safety being jeopardised?

la dama vecchia

Captain Fagor wrote:

MrChuck wrote:

I don't think you've really thought that through. I don't see that teachers should be held to a higher standard than anyone else when it comes to getting in in bad weather.

I am not trying to hold the teachers to a higher standard. Schools are the first to close when the rest of us continue to go to work. Most pupils live within a mile or two, and could (should) walk to school. Why can't the teachers get there? Then the parents either can't go to work, or they have to arrange childcare at short notice.

Teachers are there to educate your kids NOT babysit them for you!!! Of all the pathetic "teachers are lazy" crap posts I've seen on various forums, I've not seen one from a parent complaining that their offspring are missing out on education.....just the usual "I'm going to have to look after my own kids now" tripe!!

Headteachers make the decision to close schools, NOT teachers - if the school is open, teachers have to get there, otherwise (in many cases) they do not get paid. Teachers are employees, they do as instructed - school's closed, stay at home, school's open, make your way in.

Kids may live close to school, the vast majority of teachers do not. What happens when 800+ kids turn up on time, but only 7 teachers make it in on time?? It just doesn't work! Oh...and guess what....teachers are human too. Some of them even have their own children! What do they do for childcare when they have to leave the house at 5am to try to get in on time and not get home until 7pm or later???

About time some people took off their blinkers and see the whole picture, not just thinking about themselves for once!!!

fastandfuriousxc

Schools shut due to lazy teachers, and transport (buses) not running

In my school teachers were looking forward to a day off, and i doubt they would bother coming in even if they could.

I know students love days off, but i have a level exams next week and still need to be taught part of the course, so am pretty screwed really.