Biking and Guns

carlessbrit

Granted a rare opportunity to film without censorship at a gun show, this is perhaps the first film featuring gun experts giving direction for the bicyclist wanting to be 'packing heat'.
http://vimeo.com/8180105

Wallace1492

carlessbrit wrote:

Granted a rare opportunity to film without censorship at a gun show, this is perhaps the first film featuring gun experts giving direction for the bicyclist wanting to be 'packing heat'.
http://vimeo.com/8180105

Very interested in this for my commutes down Maryhill Road.....

gtvlusso

Thats totally brilliant!!

I see no issues at all with carrying a firearm for cycle commuting...... :shock:

wgwarburton

gtvlusso wrote:

Thats totally brilliant!!

I see no issues at all with carrying a firearm for cycle commuting...... :shock:

Are you mad? Have you seen what those things weigh?

:-)

Cheers,
W.

iain_j

Do they make carbon fibre guns?

_Brun_

iain_j wrote:

Do they make carbon fibre guns?

Composite firearms are ideal for getting through airport security.

iain_j

Thanks, I'll remember that :P

gtvlusso

WGWarburton wrote:

gtvlusso wrote:

Thats totally brilliant!!

I see no issues at all with carrying a firearm for cycle commuting...... :shock:

Are you mad? Have you seen what those things weigh?

:-)

Cheers,
W.

Lightweight Nylon composites.....! Old school steel shooters were heavy - latest issue Glocks are carbon fibre and nylon/plastic and so on are very light....

prawny

gtvlusso wrote:

WGWarburton wrote:

gtvlusso wrote:

Thats totally brilliant!!

I see no issues at all with carrying a firearm for cycle commuting...... :shock:

Are you mad? Have you seen what those things weigh?

:-)

Cheers,
W.

Lightweight Nylon composites.....! Old school steel shooters were heavy - latest issue Glocks are carbon fibre and nylon/plastic and so on are very light....

Aren't bullets still lead though? Lead is heavy, Ti bullets anyone?

Wallace1492

carlessbrit wrote:

Granted a rare opportunity to film without censorship at a gun show, this is perhaps the first film featuring gun experts giving direction for the bicyclist wanting to be 'packing heat'.
http://vimeo.com/8180105

You pack heat on a bike, the cops will just pack more heat. Know what I'm saying?

gtvlusso

Ammunition often outweighs the weapon itself......

I don't think there is lead in any ammunition now, but it is certainly not light.

However, 2 clips at 16 rounds a clip should give you plenty of scope to claer your path on your daily commute......

Limburger

The Glock pistol is light for a handgun but still unwieldy. Firing a handgun accurately is surprisingly difficult too, even more so at speed. Its not like the films.

Perhaps a derringer for the occasional duel would be more appropriate.

Personally I would opt for the H&K G3 with optional stem mount. The recoil on such a cannon and the 5+ Kg weight may just lose you your job for being habitually late.
This is of course assuming you haven't already attracted the attention of the rozzers with your newly acquired super perforator.

gtvlusso

Limburger wrote:

The Glock pistol is light for a handgun but still unwieldy. Firing a handgun accurately is surprisingly difficult too, even more so at speed. Its not like the films.

Perhaps a derringer for the occasional duel would be more appropriate.

Personally I would opt for the H&K G3 with optional stem mount. The recoil on such a cannon and the 5+ Kg weight may just lose you your job for being habitually late.
This is of course assuming you haven't already attracted the attention of the rozzers with your newly acquired super perforator.

Its a good point - When you fire a gun, you can only move in slow motion......otherwise it is not cool.

FeynmanC

You're not thinking straight - you want a frame mounted gattling gun, linked to helmet motion detectors so it points where you are looking.

Plus some heat seaking rockets in the panniers - the exhaust from the a&&hole that just cut you up should provide just the kind of target they would find attractive.

joshtp

i recon a air gun would be the ticket, its gonna be enough to stun, and its alot lighter..... also, you can recharge it with your co2 canisters...

gtvlusso

FeynmanC wrote:

You're not thinking straight - you want a frame mounted gattling gun, linked to helmet motion detectors so it points where you are looking.

Plus some heat seaking rockets in the panniers - the exhaust from the a&&hole that just cut you up should provide just the kind of target they would find attractive.

Hmmm - Mini Guns have a quite a recoil, so you'd probably get blown backwards everytime you let a volley rip!



I think an A10 tankbuster Warthog M61 Vulcan cannon is the way forward - apparently it severly restricts the aircrafts manouverability and forward motion when fired: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M61_Vulcan

Maybe a gadget of the year entrant?!?!

_Brun_

I have an orbiting AC-130.

Fuel costs are a bit steep but it keeps weight off the bike.

gtvlusso

gtvlusso wrote:

FeynmanC wrote:

You're not thinking straight - you want a frame mounted gattling gun, linked to helmet motion detectors so it points where you are looking.

Plus some heat seaking rockets in the panniers - the exhaust from the a&&hole that just cut you up should provide just the kind of target they would find attractive.

Hmmm - Mini Guns have a quite a recoil, so you'd probably get blown backwards everytime you let a volley rip!



I think an A10 tankbuster Warthog M61 Vulcan cannon is the way forward - apparently it severly restricts the aircrafts manouverability and forward motion when fired: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M61_Vulcan

Maybe a gadget of the year entrant?!?!

I was wrong - it is the Avenger: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAU-8_Avenger

_Brun_

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBXrogB8L08

Do NOT want to be on the receiving end.

gtvlusso

Just watched some other video of Canadian forces in the middle east....war is awful and this weapon is horrendous.....very upset by the damage and destruction created by man against man in 2 seconds.

I feel quite upset...

Bikerbaboon

gtvlusso wrote:

Just watched some other video of Canadian forces in the middle east....war is awful and this weapon is horrendous.....very upset by the damage and destruction created by man against man in 2 seconds.

I feel quite upset...

is that because you cant have one on your comuter bike

war is not nice and there would be alot less of it if the MP's had to fight in them.

Wallace1492

gtvlusso wrote:

Just watched some other video of Canadian forces in the middle east....war is awful and this weapon is horrendous.....very upset by the damage and destruction created by man against man in 2 seconds.

I feel quite upset...

It really is bizarre, here we are on a tiny planet in an enormous universe, yet we spend countless billions on weapons of destruction against each other, while leaving countless millions to starve. We consider ourselves to be the most advanced species on the Planet, yet without doubt we have been the most destructive, both againt our own kind and against others, including the natural resources of the planet.

We have without doubt altered the balance of the planet, and will continue to do so, Copenhagen, Kyoto will not matter.

We will destroy ourselves, and will probably take a huge chunk of the Planets bio-diversity with us.

Oh yes, evelution has given us the perfect destroying machine - us!!

iain_j

Wallace1492 wrote:

It really is bizarre, here we are on a tiny planet in an enormous universe, yet we spend countless billions on weapons of destruction against each other, while leaving countless millions to starve. We consider ourselves to be the most advanced species on the Planet, yet without doubt we have been the most destructive, both againt our own kind and against others, including the natural resources of the planet.

+1

Amen brother.

Ectomorph

Wallace1492 wrote:

It really is bizarre, here we are on a tiny planet in an enormous universe, yet we spend countless billions on weapons of destruction against each other, while leaving countless millions to starve. We consider ourselves to be the most advanced species on the Planet, yet without doubt we have been the most destructive, both againt our own kind and against others, including the natural resources of the planet.

+1

We ain't as smart as we like to think we are.

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Wallace1492

Wallace1492 wrote:

gtvlusso wrote:

Just watched some other video of Canadian forces in the middle east....war is awful and this weapon is horrendous.....very upset by the damage and destruction created by man against man in 2 seconds.

I feel quite upset...

It really is bizarre, here we are on a tiny planet in an enormous universe, yet we spend countless billions on weapons of destruction against each other, while leaving countless millions to starve. We consider ourselves to be the most advanced species on the Planet, yet without doubt we have been the most destructive, both againt our own kind and against others, including the natural resources of the planet.

We have without doubt altered the balance of the planet, and will continue to do so, Copenhagen, Kyoto will not matter.

We will destroy ourselves, and will probably take a huge chunk of the Planets bio-diversity with us.

Oh yes, evelution has given us the perfect destroying machine - us!!

Forgot to add - Merry Xmas!! (when we celebrate the birth of someone that millions believe is the son of god, a big all poweful being that has somehow been responsible for creating out little tiny island in the cosmos, and for whose existence there is not one single shred of evidence, a forgiving, all powerful, compasionate entity that allows us to destroy ourselves and the planet)

Yes, we are a bizarre lot. No other species requires to have some all powerful "god". I believe it is because we cannot face the prospect that we are all alone, there is no more to it than what we see. Therefore lets destroy each other, but also beleive in god? Very, very bizarre!!!

simple_salmon

Wallace1492 wrote:

Wallace1492 wrote:

gtvlusso wrote:

Just watched some other video of Canadian forces in the middle east....war is awful and this weapon is horrendous.....very upset by the damage and destruction created by man against man in 2 seconds.

I feel quite upset...

It really is bizarre, here we are on a tiny planet in an enormous universe, yet we spend countless billions on weapons of destruction against each other, while leaving countless millions to starve. We consider ourselves to be the most advanced species on the Planet, yet without doubt we have been the most destructive, both againt our own kind and against others, including the natural resources of the planet.

We have without doubt altered the balance of the planet, and will continue to do so, Copenhagen, Kyoto will not matter.

We will destroy ourselves, and will probably take a huge chunk of the Planets bio-diversity with us.

Oh yes, evelution has given us the perfect destroying machine - us!!

Forgot to add - Merry Xmas!! (when we celebrate the birth of someone that millions believe is the son of god, a big all poweful being that has somehow been responsible for creating out little tiny island in the cosmos, and for whose existence there is not one single shred of evidence, a forgiving, all powerful, compasionate entity that allows us to destroy ourselves and the planet)

Yes, we are a bizarre lot. No other species requires to have some all powerful "god". I believe it is because we cannot face the prospect that we are all alone, there is no more to it than what we see. Therefore lets destroy each other, but also beleive in god? Very, very bizarre!!!

+1 for most of what you said except the bit in bold. This is a dangerous place to make such statements - there are people around here who will want evidence for that

Eau Rouge

Bikerbaboon wrote:

war is not nice and there would be alot less of it if the MP's had to fight in them.

Look at the Napoleoinic War era Army and Navy (Sharpe and Aubrey/Maturin novels/films will do) and actually you find that when MP's and the aritocracy not only fought in wars, but went out of their way to buy and influence their way into commisions and ships, warfare was actually far more common than today.
Money is what stops us fighting wars like we used to. The fact those fighting the wars no longer are the ones spending the money on those wars is why there is less of it

jrduquemin

WGWarburton wrote:

gtvlusso wrote:

Thats totally brilliant!!

I see no issues at all with carrying a firearm for cycle commuting...... :shock:

Are you mad? Have you seen what those things weigh?

:-)

Cheers,
W.

Glock make a ceramic pistol that doesn't weight a lot. Besides, if it's on your person, it shouldn't affect the bike weight I'd love a handgun for shooting people who talk on the phone when they're driving. They wouldn't do it again :twisted:

Bikerbaboon

Eau Rouge wrote:

Bikerbaboon wrote:

war is not nice and there would be alot less of it if the MP's had to fight in them.

Look at the Napoleoinic War era Army and Navy (Sharpe and Aubrey/Maturin novels/films will do) and actually you find that when MP's and the aritocracy not only fought in wars, but went out of their way to buy and influence their way into commisions and ships, warfare was actually far more common than today.
Money is what stops us fighting wars like we used to. The fact those fighting the wars no longer are the ones spending the money on those wars is why there is less of it

i dont know number of people killed in the last 100 years of war compaired to the napoleoinic wars. The world has not know 1 year of peace so to say was is no longer common is tosh.

turnerjohn

think the term "peace through superior Firepower" springs to mind !

jrduquemin

turnerjohn wrote:

think the term "peace through superior Firepower" springs to mind !

Sounds appropriate - 'who has the bigger stick' is also a good one :-)