Men who hit women = cowards

downfader

A workmate's daughter was in a club the other night, I'm told, and some trouble kicked off. She's quite a pretty girl and this fella wouldnt leave her alone. In the end she got a bit sick of this bloke constantly following her and politely (and I know it was polite as I have met the girl) told him she had a fella and that she wasnt interested.

Still he kept trying it on until her friend also lost her patience and was a little more blunt and told him to bleep off. This little swine then took a swing for the other girl and thanks to her security training both girls avoided the blow and restrained this twit. His friend then "stepped in" and also tried to punch the girls, but thankfully one of their male friends was also there and he restrained man no.2.

Both lads were told in no uncertain terms "you dont hit women", and the bouncers then took over and removed both twits.

It was bad enough that idiot no.1 had scared the girls into thinking their drinks were about to be spiked, but to actually try and hit them is reprehensible. I'm hearing more and more of this happening, like its now suddenly acceptable to hit women. WTF is happening to people thesedays..? I know women are supposed to be on equal terms... but taking potshots..? And just because we're on equal terms doesn't mean we can't be gentlemen.

end rant.

hopper1

I totally agree with you...
Only cowards hit birds!

Sirius631

Amen

TheDrunkMonk

I don't think you're going to get a great deal of people disagreeing with you on this thread buddy.

If you're one of the cowards in question, you aren't going to post are you?

It saddens me to think of these guys and countless 1000s like them going home to their future wives and girlfriends where there aren't any bouncers about to step in. Absolute low lives.

downfader

TheDrunkMonk wrote:

I don't think you're going to get a great deal of people disagreeing with you on this thread buddy.

If you're one of the cowards in question, you aren't going to post are you?

It saddens me to think of these guys and countless 1000s like them going home to their future wives and girlfriends where there aren't any bouncers about to step in. Absolute low lives.

I know three women who have lived those lives and thankfully managed to leave those men.

shockedsoshocked

I witnessed a similar situation out once, basically a lad punched a girl over in front of me and a friend after a lengthy argument between them.

Said friend stepped in and decked him back, sack of spuds style. Bouncers saw it too (I assume they'd been watching them argue) and dragged the offending lad outside. Guess they thought the guy deserved it too.

Mind you, I have seen more lads get decked by girls than the other way round :shock:

Chip \'oyler

ShockedSoShocked wrote:

I witnessed a similar situation out once, basically a lad punched a girl over in front of me and a friend after a lengthy argument between them.

Said friend stepped in and decked him back, sack of spuds style. Bouncers saw it too (I assume they'd been watching them argue) and dragged the offending lad outside. Guess they thought the guy deserved it too.

Mind you, I have seen more lads get decked by girls than the other way round :shock:

Very true. In fact as young girls are getting more aggressive and more violent perhaps the younger male generation doesn't realise there is a 'fairer sex'?

Anonymous

Chip \'oyler wrote:

ShockedSoShocked wrote:

I witnessed a similar situation out once, basically a lad punched a girl over in front of me and a friend after a lengthy argument between them.

Said friend stepped in and decked him back, sack of spuds style. Bouncers saw it too (I assume they'd been watching them argue) and dragged the offending lad outside. Guess they thought the guy deserved it too.

Mind you, I have seen more lads get decked by girls than the other way round :shock:

Very true. In fact as young girls are getting more aggressive and more violent perhaps the younger male generation doesn't realise there is a 'fairer sex'?

Women fights are the hardest to sort out.

With blokes kicking off it's a doddle to deal with...

ddraver

I suppose cos if you so much as breathe on the women they start accusing one of rape/assault....

LittleB0b

ddraver wrote:

I suppose cos if you so much as breathe on the women they start accusing one of rape/assault....

um - I expect the fact that you were breathing on them freaked them out a little

cougie

I'm not sure they are strictly cowards ?

Lowlife scum for sure though.

freehub

What about if a woman kicks off and starts smacking you to death? Is it ok to hit a woman then?

And what about in a situation if the woman is an even match.

colintrav

downfader wrote:

A workmate's daughter was in a club the other night, I'm told, and some trouble kicked off. She's quite a pretty girl and this fella wouldnt leave her alone. In the end she got a bit sick of this bloke constantly following her and politely (and I know it was polite as I have met the girl) told him she had a fella and that she wasnt interested.

Still he kept trying it on until her friend also lost her patience and was a little more blunt and told him to bleep off. This little swine then took a swing for the other girl and thanks to her security training both girls avoided the blow and restrained this twit. His friend then "stepped in" and also tried to punch the girls, but thankfully one of their male friends was also there and he restrained man no.2.

Both lads were told in no uncertain terms "you dont hit women", and the bouncers then took over and removed both twits.

It was bad enough that idiot no.1 had scared the girls into thinking their drinks were about to be spiked, but to actually try and hit them is reprehensible. I'm hearing more and more of this happening, like its now suddenly acceptable to hit women. WTF is happening to people thesedays..? I know women are supposed to be on equal terms... but taking potshots..? And just because we're on equal terms doesn't mean we can't be gentlemen.

end rant.

I do agree but Isay the following

At under 18's nights the biggest culprits for starting and the causin or any trouble are the lassies ... Because they have guys who they are casual with and still try it on with others guys ... especially from other schemes

And you have the honey traps that entice those from other areas/gangs into a situation whereby the local gang set upon the individual ...

Plus I worked with a bloke who was taking a hammering of his gf am telling you the truth .. he woukl say I have a cat and it scratched me .. etc etc
And even when they were in the Pub she would start she even cracked one his teammates in the darts team ...
She was brutally violent towards him and to others around him .. in the end

He left her after catchin her in bed with another Women .. lol

Some of the lip some lassies give out nowadays is just beyond a joke ..

Pokerface

I hit a woman once. And I'm no coward.

But we were boxing (with proper gear) and it was a fair fight. In fact, she got a good number of shots in on me!

nolf

I don't think I could ever hit a woman if she kicked off, I'd just back down and leave.
Although I would do all I could to prevent her from harming others without actually hitting her.

I think it is true that you get some aggressive gals out there though.

I always find it interesting that in a country like Syria they treat women like dirt, but if a woman cries for help in th streets, pretty much every man in earshot will run to her rescue.
Once saving you they do expect you to marry them however...

hopper1

freehub wrote:

What about if a woman kicks off and starts smacking you to death? Is it ok to hit a woman then?

And what about in a situation if the woman is an even match.

I thought you'd take up this, Will!

IMHO, there is never an excuse... ever!

You just don't do it.
Mearly asking these questions, makes me think you would :shock:

graeme_s-2

Ok, I'll bite. I've never bought into this "don't hit women" thing, because by making that statement, you imply that "it's ok to hit blokes". It's not ok to hit anybody. How about "don't hit people"?

disgruntledgoat

nolf wrote:

I always find it interesting that in a country like Syria they treat women like dirt, but if a woman cries for help in th streets, pretty much every man in earshot will run to her rescue.
Once saving you they do expect you to marry them however...

Is that before or after they stone her as an adultress?

By the way, hitting anyone is bad, especially anyone small enough to be intimidated by you.

redddraggon

freehub wrote:

What about if a woman kicks off and starts smacking you to death? Is it ok to hit a woman then?

And what about in a situation if the woman is an even match.

Restrain them Will, and then tie them up.

freehub

hopper1 wrote:

freehub wrote:

What about if a woman kicks off and starts smacking you to death? Is it ok to hit a woman then?

And what about in a situation if the woman is an even match.

I thought you'd take up this, Will!

IMHO, there is never an excuse... ever!

You just don't do it.
Mearly asking these questions, makes me think you would :shock:

Take up what?

What if some huge bodybulding woman started on you? Would you still be a coward for attempting to hit them?

If I was been totally owned by some girl, punched over and over again, started bleeding all over, been kicked, then I'd probs try something, it's called self defence. It's not against the law to hit a woman, I'm guessing the whole "it's bad hitting a woman" stems from the fact woman are usually weaker than men?

There is nothing wrong with my comments here, they're perfectly sensible and if you're getting beaten to death by a woman it seems logical.

I did get hit by a girl in high school once, all I remember is getting the p155 taken for getting beaten up by a girl, infact she just came over for no reason what so ever, hit me in the eye so hard, she was probably stronger than me at the time, showing off to her friends too, I had the worst black eye I've ever seen.

With the reasoning some people are using, woman who hit men = cowards.

I've never hit a woman, in times I've thought maybe I should, I've not cause of this fact it's bad to hit woman, but I've always thought, why not? She was clearly an even match. I understand that there is allot of girls that really are pretty fragile that do act like they're some sort of uber hard scary person, playing on the fact people say it's bad to hit woman.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 250AATAZGC

I can't see much info about this subject, but I think it is in a way a double standard, and yes, I don't agree with it, if a woman hit's a man, or ends up doing damage, it should be perfectly acceptable for a man to hit a woman. But like one guy said, violence is unacceptable regardless.

skinson

http://www.wigantoday.net/what-women-want?articleid=3032075

Hmm. I'd love someone to try and "deck" my firefighter collegue Lindsay.... :twisted:
Dave

RossMu

A couple of guys with baseball bats smashed in my door last week, while shouting threats at my wife.

I was in the pub at the time so she was home alone; needless to say she was pretty shook up. (Thankfully they never got in - unfortunately they never came back when I was home)

Despite this, im not sure I agree 100% with the sentiment.

For me the cowards are the people who will only take on a fight when they have an unfair advantage: eg 2 men with bats v's one petite girl. I also remember the nights out in the local night clubs in the mid 90's when guys would go around looking for fights, but only where they had an obvious advantage. That for me is the cowardice in it all.

Graeme_S is probably right - it should be that we shouldn't be hitting anyone, but if you really want to, make sure you find someone your own size who is just as willing, then pay for your own hospital/dental treatment afterwards if its needed..

ride_whenever

I had to stop reading the yahoo page, god people are stupid. It's quite simple you don't hit anyone. If someone starts something you attempt to diffuse the situation/leave whatever but if they're not having it then you end it.

As for the record I know plenty of women who could kick rather a lot of arse. As a rough guide you'd still be looking at small percentages of women who can actually hurt small percentages of men.

Of course mutually consensual hitting in a safe environment is perfectly okay...

disgruntledgoat

ride_whenever wrote:

Of course mutually consensual hitting in a safe environment is perfectly okay...

ohhhh matron! :twisted:

Anonymous

nolf wrote:

I don't think I could ever hit a woman if she kicked off, I'd just back down and leave.
Although I would do all I could to prevent her from harming others without actually hitting her.

I think it is true that you get some aggressive gals out there though.

I always find it interesting that in a country like Syria they treat women like dirt, but if a woman cries for help in th streets, pretty much every man in earshot will run to her rescue.
Once saving you they do expect you to marry them however...

It's really hard when they are being very violent and you have to arrest them though. Then they almost always accuse you of hurting a girl...

rake

if these dim wits did something constructive they wouldnt have the energy to be out causing trouble.they would take a moment to relax. i believe its a bad side effect of work becoming less intensive through technology. some people try and prove they are 10x man.or in this case shoot heads.it seems all too standard behavior.its very boring . its a sad situation but i pick my watering holes very carefully.id rather have a pointless conversation than a lop sided fight.

TheDrunkMonk

After hearing they've found the gene responsible for making you susceptable to believing in God or higher purpose, I wonder if they'll find one responsible for being violent thug.

Then what would happen if you turned it off? We seem to like agression and/or violence in certain aspects of our culture. We hero worship our armed forces, and I'm guessing law enFORCEment would need a touch of physical agression unless criminals gave themselves up after losing a quick game of chess.

bompington

The point is that in the vast majority of situations, men are stronger than women and capable of doing more damage to them. Like all male/female differences this is a generalisation, and does not always apply.
Isn't that a bit obvious?

Incidentally in my job I often have to restrain out of control kids, the only one who ever managed to injure me, despite a lot trying, was a 13 year old girl who managed to stick the head on me.

shouldbeinbed

TheDrunkMonk wrote:

After hearing they've found the gene responsible for making you susceptable to believing in God or higher purpose, I wonder if they'll find one responsible for being violent thug.

Then what would happen if you turned it off? We seem to like agression and/or violence in certain aspects of our culture. We hero worship our armed forces, and I'm guessing law enFORCEment would need a touch of physical agression unless criminals gave themselves up after losing a quick game of chess.

Slightly odd turn of phrase, we don't hero worship our armed forces in general, that accolade sems to be reserved for the really important people in life like Jade Goody and the X Factor winner!!.

we recognise that perfectly normal men and women have been thrown into an extreme situation , not of their making and are acting immensely bravely ready and willing to lay down their lives in the hope that it will bring about a better life for the vast majority of innocent human beings in that country and hopefully make us safer in the long run from Al-Qaeda etc. Hopefully of course and that for me is why the soldiers are treated in the way they are whilst the politicos are much more reviled. They know they've been lied to just like the rest of us and know the trouble they'll have getting decent help form the government if they are seriuusly hurt but they still go and do it. thats the marks of the 'hero worship'.

Also knowing a couple of army lads and working alongside the cops, most of the time is not spent in enFORCEment, but in enTALK AND DIFFUSE WITHOUT FORCEment. nrmal human beings doing at some times an exceedingly difficult job and using a hell of a lot less force than other less trained and experienced people might do when faced wth the same level of violent, threatening or unreasonable behaviour.

shockedsoshocked

freehub wrote:

What about if a woman kicks off and starts smacking you to death? Is it ok to hit a woman then?

And what about in a situation if the woman is an even match.

That's a tough one.

If a woman came up and laid the nut on you, I think you'd be reasonable to respond, just like if a bloke did it.

But I agree with Graeme_S mantra, don't hit people. Unfortunately it's the people who don't follow this that are the issue. And recently there's a bloody lot of them, especially in Boro. I'd rather not bother going out than risk the hassle. I actually stay up all night when my girlfriend goes out until she texts me saying she's back home just in case.

disgruntledgoat

ShockedSoShocked wrote:

freehub wrote:

What about if a woman kicks off and starts smacking you to death? Is it ok to hit a woman then?

And what about in a situation if the woman is an even match.

That's a tough one.

If a woman came up and laid the nut on you, I think you'd be reasonable to respond, just like if a bloke did it.

But I agree with Graeme_S mantra, don't hit people. Unfortunately it's the people who don't follow this that are the issue. And recently there's a bloody lot of them, especially in Boro. I'd rather not bother going out than risk the hassle. I actually stay up all night when my girlfriend goes out until she texts me saying she's back home just in case.

Just in case you have to bust some heads for looking at her?