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Northwind
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I just got my swine flu vaccination- so when you guys all catch it and die, which the news tells me will happen any time now, I'll be immune and I'll pop round and steal your bikes, then ride on your empty trails.
Having said that, if I contract guillaine-barre syndrome and lose the use of my arms and legs, that's not going to do me much good. Perhaps I should have thought this plan through in more detail.
Having said that, if I contract guillaine-barre syndrome and lose the use of my arms and legs, that's not going to do me much good. Perhaps I should have thought this plan through in more detail.
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I have already had swine flu so hopefully have some antibodies!0
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Oh god, you know what that means... As the last survivors of the human race we'll have to repopulate the planet.
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*goes off to jump of a building*Northwind wrote:Oh god, you know what that means... As the last survivors of the human race we'll have to repopulate the planet.0 -
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we will surive. hopefully. with a bit of luck
*running down to the doctors to get a vaccination*0 -
I'll be getting my jab soon
Oh eck, that would mean I'm one of the few left to procreate !!!! I'm dammed lol
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Northwind wrote:I just got my swine flu vaccination- so when you guys all catch it and die, which the news tells me will happen any time now, I'll be immune and I'll pop round and steal your bikes, then ride on your empty trails.
Having said that, if I contract guillaine-barre syndrome and lose the use of my arms and legs, that's not going to do me much good. Perhaps I should have thought this plan through in more detail.
erm you do know that in 1976 there was an outbreak in the United States of swine flu. The Americans started a short lived vaccination program, short lived because the vaccine killed more people than the infection.
just sayin' thats all.Fancy a brew?0 -
hehehe. alittle encouraging advice for everyone there. 0
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I had the jab t'other day, you can all sneeze on me as much as you like!"Melancholy is incompatible with bicycling." ~James E. Starrs0
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that must be the first time somone has ever said that. 0
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doesn't become effective until 14 days after the injection :roll:0
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really. didnt know that. i suppose the white blood cells need time to produce anti bodies to fight off the dead swine flu cells. quite clever really dont you think.
*i havent just recently done a gcse biology exam what you on about* 0 -
Muddy.Bail wrote:doesn't become effective until 14 days after the injection :roll:
You can sneeze on me as much as you like as of tomorrow then
"Melancholy is incompatible with bicycling." ~James E. Starrs0 -
You got some weird fetish or what
It's easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission.
I've bought a new bike....ouch - result
Can I buy a new bike?...No - no result0 -
I was offered it (line of work and all that), but turned it down.
For exactly that reason.77ric wrote:erm you do know that in 1976 there was an outbreak in the United States of swine flu. The Americans started a short lived vaccination program, short lived because the vaccine killed more people than the infection.
just sayin' thats all.
I'll just "Wing it" and take my chances.0 -
Had it. Not as bad as flu, but still not a nice illness to have. Fingers crossed I won't get it again so I can carry on riding.0
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Just a thought here, probably a little conspiracy tbh... But....
Don't vaccines take YEARS to develop? Swine flu was only really an outbreak this year. Unless they are using the vaccine created by the Americans, which killed a few apparently, then how did they manufacture this so quickly? My mate reckons the gov could be using this as an excuse to get something else in our systems... They never seem to tell you what is actually in the injection.
For instance, the MMR vaccine supposedly affected a fair few children when they were injected with it, if this is the case, why not do it separately? They wouldn't do that though, why?
So, what is actually in this vaccine, they are saying it is a swine flu vaccine, they may not be lying, but is it the complete truth? Why are they so "pushy" to get people to have the vaccine?
Just one of those odd little thoughts of mine...0 -
From scratch, yeah, but this one's based on the regular winter flu vaccine (which also changes most years).
I did some research myself but decided to get it (I'm diabetic so an at-risk group), mainly because of who's against it- the Telegraph and an army of tinfoil hats The vaccine used today isn't the same as the 1976 one but most experts still say that it was the right thing to do- 25 people died but if the threat of an epidemic had come true, it would have saved a lot more than that. Uncompromising extremist0 -
My Mum got it but she's front line NHS, she keeps banging on about how I should get it too. Was offered a few weeks back but declined, apparantly it's similar to the normal flu jab and 'should' be OK I'm a bit paranoid however :shock: I was at the doc last week and she never even mentioned it.0
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yeah well it's probably not going to kill you, but then the pig flu is probably not going to kill you either.
i won't be taking it if it's offered to me, not because i'm worried about it, i'm just not worried about the pig flu, i think i can honestly say i have never had the plain old seasonal flu.
plus the government want to go all THX 1138 on us Fancy a brew?0 -
Foll Zofalot wrote:My Mum got it but she's front line NHS
Snap.Foll Zofalot wrote:apparantly it's similar to the normal flu jab and 'should' be OK
The jab currently being offered to NHS staff is Pandemrix. This is specifically designed to combat H1N1 and won't offer any protection against Seasonal Flu. Similarly the Seasonal Flu jab will not guard against the Pig Flu.0 -
I'm a vaccination co-ordinator for about 20,000 people, I organise the call up for both the seasonal and swine flu vaccinations.
I think I'll clear up a few myths for you guys.
Myth 1: "The vaccine's not been tested properly! Vaccines take years to develop!"
Reality: The swine flu vaccine is essentially the same as the seasonal flu vaccine in make-up. The seasonal vaccine is a new vaccine each year based on the expected most common strains. There is about a 4 month lead time in every year for development/testing/validation before production starts (4 months) and the vaccine is delivered (4 months). The swine flu vaccine has followed a very similar schedule. The only difference year-on-year, and between the seasonal and the swine flu vaccine is the strain, rather than the vaccine components. The flu vaccines are VERY safe, with the majority of side effects being limited to a slightly sore arm or feeling a bit off colour for 24-48 hours.
Myth 2: I've had Swine Flu already, there's no point having the vaccine"
Reality: From our current research, we estimate that the following give varying amounts of immunity:
Not had illness or vaccine: 0% immunity [People have no resistance to this very new strain, hence its spread]
Had the seasonal vaccine: <5% immunity
Had Swine Flu: <20% immunity
Had Swine Flu Vaccine: ~70% immunity with a reduction in symptoms for those catching it after immunisation
Basically, even if you've had the bug, you're nearly as vulnerable to getting it again as someone who hasn't. Getting vaccinated is the best way to stay healthy and keep your family members healthy.
Myth 3: "I'm a healthy young fit man, it's going to be nothing worse than a bad head-cold"
Reality: My sister is a doctor in the Intensive care unit at the regional major hospital. She tells me that ITU is currently full to bursting with previously healthy individuals who have contracted the illness. Over 120 people have been killed by it, and the younger you are, the more likely it is to hospitalise you if you are healthy.0 -
Alex wrote:
Myth 3: "I'm a healthy young fit man, it's going to be nothing worse than a bad head-cold"
Reality: My sister is a doctor in the Intensive care unit at the regional major hospital. She tells me that ITU is currently full to bursting with previously healthy individuals who have contracted the illness. Over 120 people have been killed by it, and the younger you are, the more likely it is to hospitalise you if you are healthy.
and the seasonal flu kills between 6000 and 12000 people a year in the uk. so far as far as i'm aware every death from the pig flu in the uk has been from underlying health problems.
fact is the pig flu is no worse than the seasonal flu and no-one who doesn't need the seasonal flu jab doesn't need the swine flu jab.Fancy a brew?0 -
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the younger you are, the more likely it is to hospitalise you if you are healthy.
so all the old farts will be left leaving northwind and jay 12 to repoplulate the earth with ld biddies?
the flu mutates so whats the poont in the vaccine
and by the time the swine flu jab came out the flu had mutated, personaly theyre all giving us all mind control drugs telling us to wage a war on fats and foreigners coz they dont have the scrote to do it0 -
+177ric wrote:Alex wrote:
Myth 3: "I'm a healthy young fit man, it's going to be nothing worse than a bad head-cold"
Reality: My sister is a doctor in the Intensive care unit at the regional major hospital. She tells me that ITU is currently full to bursting with previously healthy individuals who have contracted the illness. Over 120 people have been killed by it, and the younger you are, the more likely it is to hospitalise you if you are healthy.
and the seasonal flu kills between 6000 and 12000 people a year in the uk. so far as far as i'm aware every death from the pig flu in the uk has been from underlying health problems.
fact is the pig flu is no worse than the seasonal flu and no-one who doesn't need the seasonal flu jab doesn't need the swine flu jab.
A pandemic thats killed 120 people :shock:
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Seasonal flu kills mostly elderly people with chronic conditions, and is fairly hard to transmit. There's a natural community resistance to it amongst healthy people because the strains have been around for a while.
Swine flu is almost as infectious as Norovirus and hospitalises/kills pretty indiscrimately, Contrary to 77ric's information some of the dead were previously healthy (defined as "Would not have been vaccinated against seasonal flu")
From the BBC based on data from DoH.
Deaths rates ARE 10 times lower than those for seasonal flu, but the hospitalisation rates in previously healthy people are vastly higher. They aren't minor hospitalisations either, most end up requiring major medical intervention such as help with breathing. That's blocking up the hospitals, delaying operations, reducing the number of beds and wards and staff available to cover other stuff.
Currently, the vaccine is only available to people with an existing chronic medical condition, people taking immunosupressants, people living with immunosupressed people, healthcare workers and pregnant ladies in the 1st/2nd trimester.
It will soon be available to all school children. Followed by all people over 65. This may be followed by the remainder of the population depending upon circumstances in a few months time.
If you are offered the vaccine, please take up the opportunity to keep yourself healthy.0 -
like the flu vacine the swin vaccine causes some of the symptons within the body as the boys defenses learn how to deal with the flu
i persnaly have had both flu and swine flu in the last 2 montths and faily confident i will not struggle with it any more but there is still the risk i get it again0
