Bitten by a dog

simple_salmon

Had just finished a training run last night and was walking just before I started my warm down when a little Jack Russell being walked by a teenage girl yapped around my ankles and then bit my leg.

I actually had to shake my foot to get the bugger off and after a little swearing on my behalf and an apology from the girl I told her she shouldn't be out with a dog that attacks like that and then I jogged home.

My question is, should I have taken it further? I certainly wasn't going to have a go at the girl as she was only 15 or so but I can't help shake the feeling that if I'd been walking with a young child and they'd been attacked it could have been somewhat worse.

What would you have done?

fossyant

You should have dropp kicked it into the next street......

fungus_the_muffin_man

I hate lil yapping rats like those :evil:

hammerite

When I was a kid I got attacked twice by a litter of Jack Russell pups (with their mother) while on my paper round. The lady who owned them had about 8 of them on her front lawn as I rode past slowly....... the dogs ran out chased me and were jumping up at my ankles.

I was trying to kick them off and pedal at the same time. They took a few chunks out of my legs in doing so which led to an afternoon at the hospital getting tetanus.

Then exactly the same happened again a couple of weeks later, only the owner wasn't with them that time, and they were roaming freely around her garden (unfenced!). I was thoroughly pissed off so rang the police.

Can't stand Jack Russells!

hopper1

fossyant wrote:

You should have dropp kicked it into the next street......

+1

My daughters rabbit once bit me... I had to shake it off my shin. I obviously shook my leg a little too hard, because when the rabbit let go he sailed through the air, approx 25ft, just managing to clip the top of the back fence. As soon as he landed, he came belting back down the garden at me :shock:
I had to run into the house and close the back door! FFS

Later, I told my daughter off, for leaving the rabbit un attended...

Sorry, I digressed... :roll:

hammerite

hopper1 wrote:

fossyant wrote:

You should have dropp kicked it into the next street......

+1

My daughters rabbit once bit me... I had to shake it off my shin. I obviously shook my leg a little too hard, because when the rabbit let go he sailed through the air, approx 25ft, just managing to clip the top of the back fence. As soon as he landed, he came belting back down the garden at me :shock:
I had to run into the house and close the back door! FFS

Later, I told my daughter off, for leaving the rabbit un attended...

Sorry, I digressed... :roll:

Was your rabbit in a Monty Python film?

Tim: That's the most foul, cruel, and bad-tempered rodent you ever set eyes on!
Sir Robin: You tit! I soiled my armor I was so scared!
Tim: Look, that rabbit's got a vicious streak a mile wide! It's a killer!

211dave112

hopper1 wrote:

fossyant wrote:

You should have dropp kicked it into the next street......

+1

My daughters rabbit once bit me... I had to shake it off my shin. I obviously shook my leg a little too hard, because when the rabbit let go he sailed through the air, approx 25ft, just managing to clip the top of the back fence. As soon as he landed, he came belting back down the garden at me :shock:
I had to run into the house and close the back door! FFS

Later, I told my daughter off, for leaving the rabbit un attended...

Sorry, I digressed... :roll:

thats a great story!!

dilemna

simple_salmon wrote:

Had just finished a training run last night and was walking just before I started my warm down when a little Jack Russell being walked by a teenage girl yapped around my ankles and then bit my leg.

I actually had to shake my foot to get the bugger off and after a little swearing on my behalf and an apology from the girl I told her she shouldn't be out with a dog that attacks like that and then I jogged home.

My question is, should I have taken it further? I certainly wasn't going to have a go at the girl as she was only 15 or so but I can't help shake the feeling that if I'd been walking with a young child and they'd been attacked it could have been somewhat worse.

What would you have done?

fossyant wrote:

You should have dropp kicked it into the next street......

Sorry to read you were bitten by this mutt. Last year I was out running just as you were and exactly the same thing happened to me with a Jack Russell, except the owner was a nasty old git. The dog was not on it's lead. It bit my left Achilles heel. So I booted it 10 feet throught the air. The old git owner went ballstic so I told him he was next. He then harrassed me every time I went running in the park with his dog shouting foul abuse until I started taking my camera with me. I turned the tables on him and have recorded him making death threats against me. He hasn't bothered me since this time.

Also this summer I was out walking one nice evening in the sticks when this Jack Russell came for me trying to bite my ankles. Fortunately it didn't manage to sink it's teeth into me. It wasn't on a lead. The owner a fat bitch about 25 years old was on her mobile phone sitting on the other side of a footbridge with her back to me. Eventually she called it off but not before I had to shout at her about 5 times to call her dog off and to keep it under control. I got a mouthful of abuse. Anyway a day later I was coming out of my local supermarket when I was accosted by this huge thug looking bloke and another foul mouthed woman. They turned out to be associates, friend, family I never found out, of this dog woman who worked as a check out supervisor in my local supermarket. They were claiming all sorts that the police were serching for me. Well I called the police and they were fully on my side that the stupid bitch should have been on a lead and under control, that her fridends family etc should not be harassing or intimidating me especially if they were now supposedly involved which they weren't. I spoke to an inspector who said he we sort it out. I have not heard any more. Though the bitch has been a nasty piece of work in the supermarket.

I would report the incident to the police. It is an offence to have a dog out of control in a public place or indeed one that bites people. Depending on the extent of your injury you may also considering suing her or her parents presumably the owners of the dog.

brownleather

Kick the fcuking owner's head in by all means they probably deserve it (unless they are a young child), but excessive force and cruelty to animals is disgusting.

alan_sherman

Do dogs still get put down if they have bitten someone? or is that sharks :?

simple_salmon

I've been running for about 25 years and this is the first time I've ever been bitten :shock:

It would be very hard now to take it any further; I have no idea who the girl was although I could conceivably bump into her again as I was only 1 mile from home. I only received a bit of bruising and I'd hate for a dog to be put down; I just hope it doesn't do it to anyone else.

APIII

I'm assuming you weren't seriously hurt, otherwise you'd be in no doubt what action to take. You got nipped on the ankles by a Jack Russell, well known for being a bit snappy. It's the owner's responsibility, so you should have taken it up with her at the time, but seeing as she was a young girl, probably wise not to (who knows how that could have looked to an onlooker :shock: ). At least she apologised. I'd just put it down to bad luck Anyone who kicks dogs deserves a kicking themselves.

Simon Notley

You may want to go to your doctors to get the wound seen to. Dogs teeth aren't the cleanest things in the world and you wouldn't want the wound to become infected.

bompington

I think if the owner lets a dog bite they should be put down. Possibly the dog too.

simple_salmon

I've sprayed some anti-septic on it and it seems fine now; just a small red lump.

I don't think it's related but I did manage to put my back out getting into the bath just after; not a good evening really; plus the times for my run were my slowest ever

Maybe it's time to give up running

fungus_the_muffin_man

simple_salmon wrote:

I've sprayed some anti-septic on it and it seems fine now; just a small red lump.

I don't think it's related but I did manage to put my back out getting into the bath just after; not a good evening really; plus the times for my run were my slowest ever

Maybe it's time to give up running

If it broke the skin then you do really need to get to your GP's/ local health centre and get a tetanus.It coulda just been licking its arse or other dogs poop.

Don't be so bloody soft and go get a jab up your bum

simple_salmon

I didn't break the skin (I don't think).

If it's still sore on Thursday, my next day off, I'll pop along to my GP.

1footedninja

I really don't get dogowners who think their little Fu-fu or Rover isn't a full on killer.

It's a dog, it will bite if provoked or thinks it is being provoked.

And I will kick it in its mush if one gets to close to me and is trying to sink its teeth into me, Ive had my fair share of run-ins with 'em when on bike tours etc.

Just even taking my own dog for a walk during the day is bad enough! which is why I always walk mine at night knowing full well those dumbasses ain't out with their inbred wolf offspring - I bloody hate irresponsible dog owners. And that goes from leaving their s**t on the pavement to giving me that dumb look of 'Don't worry little ikkle Rotty the Poodle is so soft and cuddley-wuddley they couldn't possibly hurt anything'. Have control of your dog. If you know its a possible ankle-biter, muzzle-it! Idiots.

On another note though : I was at the vets a few months back with my dog, routine injections and he gets stressy in them and starts barking, can be a vocal dog when he wants to be, he was a rescue dog, but certainly not a biter unless provoked by another dog, he shys away from young kids as he knows there likely to maul him, like kids do.Anyway there was this couple in there with a big dog that must have been still a puppy and the dopey arses were deliberately goading my dog and making him bark more by walking up and down past mine, there was no need for them to be doing this. They were of the ignorant type who believe dogs shouldn't bark. And were giving me looks as if to say 'oh gosh look at the awful doggy barking!'. Dogs bark, get over it. They had a little prissy princess of a daughter with them of about six who came up to me with a muzzle and went ,' I think you should be putting this on your dog', so I just told her she would be better putting it on herself. And smiled politely of course.

On another note : On one little tour I did I got invited by another cyclist to have a cuppa and some food at his when I was passing thru a town, took him up on the offer, he had a big boxer dog, went to stroke it, as you do and nearly had my hand took off, then I was told to be wary of the dog but he's harmless really.... ooooooook! Needless to say I drunk that tea quickly whilst having that dog trying to sniff my crown jewels, I have never sat so still in my life!! They even tried to get me to feed it a few biscuits just to show I'm ok to it - the sadists!

beverick

simple_salmon wrote:

I've been running for about 25 years .....

:shock: You must be seriously fit by now!

bagpusscp

Bah....Years ago i used to be a dog handler.I will never forget the first time I put a leather sleeve on. Hiding behind a tree I broke cover and legged it down a field,
{all part of the exercise} Other handler shouts his challenge,I gave him two fingers,he releases his GSD {big $od}.
There is no greater adrenalin rush than been chased by a GSD that you know is going to
A/ catch you .B/Bite you. :shock: This GSD was clever, he knew were the sleeve started and finished :twisted: A&E followed.
I still love GSD's

simple_salmon

beverick wrote:

simple_salmon wrote:

I've been running for about 25 years .....

:shock: You must be seriously fit by now!

So, so tired....

dennisn

You need to confirm that the animal that bit you has had a Rabies shot or will be observed for a certain amount of time(not sure how long) to see if it exhibits any unusual
behavior. Rabies has an incubation period in the body and after that period if you haven't had the shots you're dead, literally. No cure after the incubation period, you die. If it's a family pet it's PROBABLY ok but any animal that bites you must either be found and tested for Rabies or, if not found, YOU need to get the shots, and you'd be a fool not to.

simple_salmon

You're starting to worry me; it's a small bruise nothing more. The skin was barely, if at all broken.

It was more the shock of it that got me TBH.

millymoose

dennisn wrote:

You need to confirm that the animal that bit you has had a Rabies shot or will be observed for a certain amount of time(not sure how long) to see if it exhibits any unusual
behavior. Rabies has an incubation period in the body and after that period if you haven't had the shots you're dead, literally. No cure after the incubation period, you die. If it's a family pet it's PROBABLY ok but any animal that bites you must either be found and tested for Rabies or, if not found, YOU need to get the shots, and you'd be a fool not to.

No 'known' rabies in the UK so don't start panicking the OP !!

deptfordmarmoset

Fungus The Muffin Man wrote:

simple_salmon wrote:

I've sprayed some anti-septic on it and it seems fine now; just a small red lump.

I don't think it's related but I did manage to put my back out getting into the bath just after; not a good evening really; plus the times for my run were my slowest ever

Maybe it's time to give up running

If it broke the skin then you do really need to get to your GP's/ local health centre and get a tetanus.It coulda just been licking its ars* or other dogs poop.

Don't be so bloody soft and go get a jab up your bum

I had a tetanus jab over the summer, just a simple arm injection. I'd get that done anyway - they reckon the vaccine is effective for years afterwards - and while you're there ask for advice from your GP/nurse.

1footedninja

I'd get a tetanus jab then you know your covered for if you go abroad at any time after.

dennisn

millymoose wrote:

dennisn wrote:

You need to confirm that the animal that bit you has had a Rabies shot or will be observed for a certain amount of time(not sure how long) to see if it exhibits any unusual
behavior. Rabies has an incubation period in the body and after that period if you haven't had the shots you're dead, literally. No cure after the incubation period, you die. If it's a family pet it's PROBABLY ok but any animal that bites you must either be found and tested for Rabies or, if not found, YOU need to get the shots, and you'd be a fool not to.

No 'known' rabies in the UK so don't start panicking the OP !!

I know what you're saying but the nature of Rabies is such that ANY, repeat ANY bite,
be it from a squirrel, dog, raccoon, fox, bat, or any of many other animals MUST be, at the very least, looked into, with Rabies in mind. Rabies is not something you get sick from.
It's something you die from. Maybe there are no KNOWN cases of this in the UK but the possibility exists. Rabies kills 55,000 people a year and there are only six known cases of people surviving after the incubation period. FIND THAT DOG. FIND OUT IF IT WAS VACINATED FOR RABIES.

millymoose

dennisn wrote:

millymoose wrote:

dennisn wrote:

You need to confirm that the animal that bit you has had a Rabies shot or will be observed for a certain amount of time(not sure how long) to see if it exhibits any unusual
behavior. Rabies has an incubation period in the body and after that period if you haven't had the shots you're dead, literally. No cure after the incubation period, you die. If it's a family pet it's PROBABLY ok but any animal that bites you must either be found and tested for Rabies or, if not found, YOU need to get the shots, and you'd be a fool not to.

No 'known' rabies in the UK so don't start panicking the OP !!

I know what you're saying but the nature of Rabies is such that ANY, repeat ANY bite,
be it from a squirrel, dog, raccoon, fox, bat, or any of many other animals MUST be, at the very least, looked into, with Rabies in mind. Rabies is not something you get sick from.
It's something you die from. Maybe there are no KNOWN cases of this in the UK but the possibility exists. Rabies kills 55,000 people a year and there are only six known cases of people surviving after the incubation period. FIND THAT DOG. FIND OUT IF IT WAS VACINATED FOR RABIES.

There have only been 24 deaths from Rabies in the UK since 1902!! We do not get our dogs routinely vaccinated in the UK (although mine has as we brought her back from the US). Of those deaths all were as a result of quarantined animals or from bites sustained overseas.

I think you are over-reacting

dennisn

millymoose wrote:

dennisn wrote:

millymoose wrote:

dennisn wrote:

You need to confirm that the animal that bit you has had a Rabies shot or will be observed for a certain amount of time(not sure how long) to see if it exhibits any unusual
behavior. Rabies has an incubation period in the body and after that period if you haven't had the shots you're dead, literally. No cure after the incubation period, you die. If it's a family pet it's PROBABLY ok but any animal that bites you must either be found and tested for Rabies or, if not found, YOU need to get the shots, and you'd be a fool not to.

No 'known' rabies in the UK so don't start panicking the OP !!

I know what you're saying but the nature of Rabies is such that ANY, repeat ANY bite,
be it from a squirrel, dog, raccoon, fox, bat, or any of many other animals MUST be, at the very least, looked into, with Rabies in mind. Rabies is not something you get sick from.
It's something you die from. Maybe there are no KNOWN cases of this in the UK but the possibility exists. Rabies kills 55,000 people a year and there are only six known cases of people surviving after the incubation period. FIND THAT DOG. FIND OUT IF IT WAS VACINATED FOR RABIES.

There have only been 24 deaths from Rabies in the UK since 1902!! We do not get our dogs routinely vaccinated in the UK (although mine has as we brought her back from the US). Of those deaths all were as a result of quarantined animals or from bites sustained overseas.

I think you are over-reacting

You're allowed to think that.
Anyway, here in the States it's the law. All dogs get a Rabies vaccination. Or at least they
are supposed to(owners responsibility). Very rare here in the States also, but I wouldn't even think of CHANCING it if I had been bitten.

millymoose

Yes but you are not in the UK. It is a bit different here. I lived in the States and am well aware of the differences.

If I had got bitten in the US, Canada, Africa or anywhere that Rabies is prevalent I would have the sames concerns as you - but 24 deaths in 107 years none of which eminated from a 'loose' animal - that is why you are over-reacting

andy162

I had a manky Boxer clamp it's chops round my arm some years ago. As it was on it's hind quarters I aimed a low boot into his conkers. He let go quick sharp. He then proceeded to lay on it's side using it's legs to spin round whilst throwing up foamy bile.

Whilst sat in A&E gaffer rang wanting to know why I'd kicked a dog. The woman had reported me but omitted the "It had hold of his arm at the time bit".

A dog should be man's best friend, some are just b@stards.