Cheap cabon frame

jonnyroberts250

Looking for my first road bike and i stumbled across this
http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Carbon-Ro ... 1566wt_908
pretty sure it will be pants for that price but just checking

Jonny Roberts

sonny73

DO NOT TOUCH IT!!!!! Looks mega dodgy to me :shock:
If you are looking for an affordable and good full carbon frame try the likes of Planet X http://www.planet-x-warehouse.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Frames_23.html

pompeypoppy

Can anyone tell me what a "normal" range of weight for a carbon frame would be? looking at the ebay one, it seems dodgy, but is apparently only 390 grams. The Planet X ones are about 1.0-1.2kg. That sounds a lot for a frame, but am I wrong?

sonny73

What sort of budget do you have all in and are you totally set on full carbon?

freehub

The BB area of the carbon frame in the pic looks just like that of a cervelo frame, not sure of the name of it though.

Fogliettaz

I bought one back in March and built it with Campag Veloce groupset and its is great have not had any problems with the frame, handles like a dream and weighs in at under 8 kilos. I have been riding between 50-100 miles per week and taken it to the Alps in Italy and France this summer. By the way it is delivered from China in under a week. I would put a picture up but do not know how![/url]

Anonymous

pompeypoppy wrote:

Can anyone tell me what a "normal" range of weight for a carbon frame would be? looking at the ebay one, it seems dodgy, but is apparently only 390 grams. The Planet X ones are about 1.0-1.2kg. That sounds a lot for a frame, but am I wrong?

The fork is 390g not the whole frame.

'Normal' weight range is about 900g-1200g I suppose but this is also dependent on size...

pompeypoppy

Cheers, didn't think I'd read it properly!

sonny73

Fogliettaz wrote:

I bought one back in March and built it with Campag Veloce groupset and its is great have not had any problems with the frame, handles like a dream and weighs in at under 8 kilos. I have been riding between 50-100 miles per week and taken it to the Alps in Italy and France this summer. By the way it is delivered from China in under a week. I would put a picture up but do not know how![/url]

Fair play, I stand corrected in that case.

amaferanga

Sonny73 wrote:

DO NOT TOUCH IT!!!!! Looks mega dodgy to me :shock:
If you are looking for an affordable and good full carbon frame try the likes of Planet X http://www.planet-x-warehouse.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Frames_23.html

Seller has over 8000 sales and 99.7% positive feedback and you say it looks well dodgy? :?

Fogliettaz

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sonny73

Fogliettaz wrote:

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Nice, as said standing corrected I am and wheels looking good

amaferanga

Anyone know what frame this is then? Is it a Cervelo?

Fogliettaz

By all accounts it is a Kuota, China make thousands of frames and these are excess stock being sold cheap. There are extensive posts on an American forum re building up these frames.

http://forums.roadbikereview.com/showth ... p?t=146183

amaferanga

Fogliettaz wrote:

By all accounts it is a Kuota, China make thousands of frames and these are excess stock being sold cheap. There are extensive posts on an American forum re building up these frames.

http://forums.roadbikereview.com/showth ... p?t=146183

Doesn't quite look like any of the Kuota frames. Not far off the Kharma or Kredo of a couple of years back, but not quite the same either.

jonnyroberts250

Sonny73 wrote:

What sort of budget do you have all in and are you totally set on full carbon?

no set budget but around £500 and not set on any material

kingrollo

Must be an older Kuota then , as it doesn't have the integrated seatpost.

amaferanga

I don't think its an 08 Kharma, its definitely not an 07 (got one of those) and doesn't look like an 07 or 08 Kredo.

Velonutter

£214 for a full Carbon Frame & £42 P&P sounds like a blinding deal.

It looks like it will be stiff enough in the BB department, forks look good.

Comes with two Carbon Bottle Cages.

Seeing their feedback the negatives seem insignificant, like some twat that complains that one cage weighs 23g and the other 27g, when in reality they add up to the claimed weight anyway.

andyrr

CRC do pretty cheap carbon frames : not as cheap but still under £500
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=33660

ex-pat scot

Anything sub 1kg is seriously light for a frame.

As a comparison, my 2003 Trek 59000 OCLV carbon frame and fork weights are as follows:

Frame, inc headset cups and mech hanger 1176g
Forks inc lower headset race and bearing 366g

and these were among the lightest on the market at that point.

The price looks pretty decent for what seems a decent enough frame. The US thread has lots of positive comments too.

Takis61

Looks a bit like my Ribble Deda frame

sturmey

Looks a bit like my Ribble Deda frame

Not trying to burst your bubble in any way but you've got the Sportive model,haven't you?

Just wanted to mention that those frames are not in fact made by Dedacciai, but by a company called Pedalforce.

kingrollo

sturmey wrote:

Looks a bit like my Ribble Deda frame

Not trying to burst your bubble in any way but you've got the Sportive model,haven't you?

Just wanted to mention that those frames are not in fact made by Dedacciai, but by a company called Pedalforce.

Surley pedalforce is the brand ? ie pedalforce buy these frames and brand them, as do ribble, and others, ok they may not buy this frame, but they don't manufacturer - they buy and badge.

sturmey

Surley pedalforce is the brand ? ie pedalforce buy these frames and brand them, as do ribble, and others, ok they may not buy this frame, but they don't manufacturer - they buy and badge

No I don't think that is quite right. See here:

http://pedalforce.com/online/pages.php?page_id=10

They don't appear to be just buying them and branding them in the same way as Ribble Cycles. They claim to 'supply direct' which implies they have the monoply on the sale of these frames.They also offer a 5 year warranty where Ribble don't. Wonder why.

lmk1

http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Carbon-Ro ... 1566wt_908

with regards to the original post on this thread i am fairly sure i seen someone riding one of these around Leadhills area of scotland. At the time i was taken with the look of the bike but figured it was a repainted frame. it looked like a lovely bike and seeing this i'll keep an eye out for the guy and ask as at this price i'd be tempted to buy a frame and forks.

deal

sturmey wrote:

Surley pedalforce is the brand ? ie pedalforce buy these frames and brand them, as do ribble, and others, ok they may not buy this frame, but they don't manufacturer - they buy and badge

No I don't think that is quite right. See here:

http://pedalforce.com/online/pages.php?page_id=10

taiwan? so why did i have to send my fork to the manufacturers in China for inspection after i found a crack in the steerer tube? It could be that the text is old and has not been updated to reflect changes made in sourcing there frame. Im pretty sure i have seen other people selling frames that appear to look the same as the Pedalforce RS2

To be fair to pedalforce they were very helpfull and sent me a replacement fork after i emailed them proof of postage. I have been very impressed with the frame and would buy from them again.

Btw the munufacturers were Xpace Industrial.

fast as fupp

Fogliettaz wrote:

I bought one back in March and built it with Campag Veloce groupset and its is great have not had any problems with the frame, handles like a dream and weighs in at under 8 kilos. I have been riding between 50-100 miles per week and taken it to the Alps in Italy and France this summer. By the way it is delivered from China in under a week. I would put a picture up but do not know how![/url]

did you get done for vat and duty when it arrived?

Fogliettaz

fast as fupp no they came straight through delivered in under a week.

skinson

I can assure you ribble get their frames from deddacia And not pedalforce.
Dave

sturmey

I can assure you ribble get their frames from deddacia And not pedalforce.

Not quite right, I'm afraid.

Ribble get SOME of their frames from Dedacciai.

The Sportive model frame is NOT one of them.

Why don't you ask them next time you are in the shop?