# Calculating VO2 Max

Bhima
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Is there a cheap/free way of estimating this without all the lab equipment involved?

Recently Greg Lemond wanted Alberto Contador to "prove he was clean" and was making all sorts of claims about his VO2 Max using some kind of calculation... What calculation was that, and how reliable is it?

There's a test out there which involves running for 12 minutes and putting your distance into an equation to come up with your VO2 Max figure - does this work for cyclists and is there a cycling equivilent?

If there was a way of measuring it, it would be a good way to track your fitness every so often, on par with power measurement I reckon...

Recently Greg Lemond wanted Alberto Contador to "prove he was clean" and was making all sorts of claims about his VO2 Max using some kind of calculation... What calculation was that, and how reliable is it?

There's a test out there which involves running for 12 minutes and putting your distance into an equation to come up with your VO2 Max figure - does this work for cyclists and is there a cycling equivilent?

If there was a way of measuring it, it would be a good way to track your fitness every so often, on par with power measurement I reckon...

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429http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/berardi28.htm

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/vo2max.htm#impatient

4292,145Surely the "meters covered per 12 minutes of running" depends on how good you are at running...? People seem to swear by that method, even people who aren't runners...

I used this: http://analyticcycling.com/ForcesPower_Page.html to estimate power using average gradients and average speeds from some of the hills I always time myself up. I've used 3 hills as examples in the calculation and it's come out with 41, 58 and 61.

So perhaps I need to do the test properly and with a powermeter to make things more accurate.

141www.velochallenge.org

6,789I can't see the point in estimating VO2max - seems about as useful as estimating HRmax using empirical formulae.

4,161Not that it is all that relevant a number anyway.

2,145I do know some sports scienc students, so i'll give them a call! Didn't think of that...

472https://www.h3otriathlon.com

4,1615With a brisk walk I got 55.

With a gentle run on the beach including groyne jumping I got 60.

(with a heart rate monitor and nokia sports tracker)

That is rated as the highest category.

I really didn't think I was very fit. So this surprised me greatly.

Is there a better way to measure aerobic fitness without spending more than £200?

How would I measure it on a stationary bike?

Where's the closest place to me that can do it in a lab with measuring air intake (Poole, Dorset, UK) What to search for in Yellow Pages?

79,667Enter a bike race.

4,927But as has been said, VO2 max is just a number and pretty meaningless. Threshold power is a more useful determinant of potential cycling ability.

22,512785Seriously, if you really want to know without spending money on the test, then try to volunteer for an experiment at your nearest university with a sports science department. That's what I did, FWIW my value was 65 ml/kg/min but that was a few years ago so I'd be interested to see if it's improved. Then again, I'm starting to be convinced into getting a powermeter to get some numbers to work with....

1682,0101,246Interested why you say 'gimmick' here Alex? Do you mean the beep test is a gimmick or that the numbers you get are the gimmick.

I'm also interested in what Cougie says in that his beep score predicts his running times, Isn''t the beep test a very similar model as you (RST) use to get MAP results, which you then also use to extrapolate to predict race performance?

I'm not trying to be argumentative here, just thinking of the validity of any ramp tests.

2,145Unless you're talking about TTs, Bike races are a poor way of

measuringfitness. You don't get any figures/numbers from it because a lot of it is to do with tactics and outsmarting opponents.I'm starting to think that something like the beep test or the "run for x minutes" test may be a good way of measuring VO2 Max vaguely - it might not be accurate, but if I do the tests regularly, at least the results will be consistent and there would be a chance that I could see some kind of trend...

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2,145(Don't have a powertap yet, btw)

4,021:roll:

Are you intending to just strap the thing on and go riding? If you are you may as well save yourself a few pretty pennies and not bother.

A proper lab test would establish VO2max, Max HR and peak power. If you can afford a powertap you should be able to afford that.

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2,145You can use a power meter without knowing exact VO2 Max figures. It's not essential that you know it at all, I don't see your point there...?

4,1614,927Used by many bodies who set minimum fitness entry requirement standards (Police service for instance).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-stage_fitness_test

4,021Sweet Jesus.

My point is if you're getting a powertap and will be doing a proper lab test, your VO2max will be included in the results. Trying to find some "cheap" (read unreliable) way to establish yours is pretty pointless.

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8,957You might want to try doing some bike races before making that judgement...

@gietvangent

4,161Yeah - that would be akin to a MAP test. In general, MAP is a little higher than you might call power at VO2 Max, although that in iteself is a pretty fuzzy notion since there is quite a wide range of power at which one can induce VO2 Max.