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  • bahzob
    bahzob Posts: 2,195
    NJK- Similarly confused.

    Your first contribution to this thread was just ignorant and rude.

    Now, presumably, you agree that strength training can benefit some aspects of cycling even if its only "trackies". However none of the physiological adaptation for this would transfer to other types of cycling?

    Separately you have said
    "A bit of weight training no problem and also it depends what you mean by weight/strength training i would include core or general back care work in this. For a competitive cyclist during the season to use squats and other exercises to improve sustainable power would be optimistic at best according not by just me but many other coaches who try to understand cycling physiology not just prescribe it because every other sport does."

    So
    - As already mentioned just being thick when it come to understanding a strength program
    - being in denial when its pointed out that some coaches with a good cycling pedigree advocate other views
    - However a bit of weight training is "no problem".

    Then saying re Christian Vande Velde
    "His riding power comes from riding the bike, not from the gym no matter what he does, simply. Unless of course he has found an exercise in the gym that can replicate the angle, cadence and power over 5hrs!"
    - So no reason even to do core/back work now
    - (and BTW not showing any understanding of what the typical demands of a typical stage race day are. Presume you dont race?)

    You keep mentioning TTing so maybe this is the limit of your opinion on your knowledge. However even here you are confused. Re Christian Vande Velde (who according to you doesnt know what he's talking about) you say:

    "So Vandevelde does strength training so what! Maybe it was to correct a postural problem. Certainly won't be doing it to improve TT power."

    Do you actually do any TTs? If you did then you would know that anything that helps improve posture will, in many instances, also help improve sustainable TT power.

    You dont seem to think that Chris Hoy is a suitable example. How about Fabian Cancellara? He's not bad. Part of the reason for this is that he combines strength and flexibility.
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/the-right-fit-shaping-saxo-bank

    Are you saying that everyone will get this just from riding a bike? And that nobody would benefit from supplementing this with some off season strength and and flexibility routines?
    Martin S. Newbury RC
  • NJK
    NJK Posts: 194
    bahzob wrote:
    NJK- Similarly confused.

    Your first contribution to this thread was just ignorant and rude.

    Now, presumably, you agree that strength training can benefit some aspects of cycling even if its only "trackies". However none of the physiological adaptation for this would transfer to other types of cycling?

    Separately you have said
    "A bit of weight training no problem and also it depends what you mean by weight/strength training i would include core or general back care work in this. For a competitive cyclist during the season to use squats and other exercises to improve sustainable power would be optimistic at best according not by just me but many other coaches who try to understand cycling physiology not just prescribe it because every other sport does."

    So
    - As already mentioned just being thick when it come to understanding a strength program
    - being in denial when its pointed out that some coaches with a good cycling pedigree advocate other views
    - However a bit of weight training is "no problem".

    Then saying re Christian Vande Velde
    "His riding power comes from riding the bike, not from the gym no matter what he does, simply. Unless of course he has found an exercise in the gym that can replicate the angle, cadence and power over 5hrs!"
    - So no reason even to do core/back work now
    - (and BTW not showing any understanding of what the typical demands of a typical stage race day are. Presume you dont race?)

    You keep mentioning TTing so maybe this is the limit of your opinion on your knowledge. However even here you are confused. Re Christian Vande Velde (who according to you doesnt know what he's talking about) you say:

    "So Vandevelde does strength training so what! Maybe it was to correct a postural problem. Certainly won't be doing it to improve TT power."

    Do you actually do any TTs? If you did then you would know that anything that helps improve posture will, in many instances, also help improve sustainable TT power.

    You dont seem to think that Chris Hoy is a suitable example. How about Fabian Cancellara? He's not bad. Part of the reason for this is that he combines strength and flexibility.
    http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/the-right-fit-shaping-saxo-bank

    Are you saying that everyone will get this just from riding a bike? And that nobody would benefit from supplementing this with some off season strength and and flexibility routines?


    You really don't have an understanding of exercise physiology. Do you have any understanding of the limiting factors of endurance cycling. Even though i'm no expert i do have a exercise physiology degree and i'm doing an MSc in the same topic.

    I'm not trying to be rude to you but the reason FC is at the top is because of strength and flexibility? Interesting i would have mentioned his high threshold power and years and years of developing a high level of endurance.

    Also strength training and core work are totally different.

    Surely on the net you can find me a pro cyclist who does olympic lifting who says it has improved his performance???

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