RLJ - What's the big deal?

blu3cat

Without the communication, how do you prove the observation?

Even if insects, rodents, cats could communicate with us, would you trust anything they got to say? Especially cats - devious blighters.

blu3cat

Jay dubbleU wrote:

The event will have a effect on the observer - the key is to interpret the effect - verbal communication is not the only form

The observer has an effect on the event.

Jay dubbleU

Ah - that's a whole different game

Bored now - I've been called in for my tea

Porgy

blu3cat wrote:

Jay dubbleU wrote:

The event will have a effect on the observer - the key is to interpret the effect - verbal communication is not the only form

The observer has an effect on the event.

Not for Bishop Berkely - and only for quantum mechanics surely? Big stuff like trees is still Newtonian.

biondino

lost_in_thought wrote:

I think blondie's right, people who are red-green colour blind see both as the same colour, indiscernible from one another. You just have to look at the colour-blindness tests to understand that...

As for perception of colour, turquoise is always a good one - a blue-green mix. My brother had a car that was that sort of colour once, I saw it as green, he saw it as blue. It's definitions as much as anything.

I have a pair of dark green trackie bottoms and my ex INSISTED they were black. I guess it's just about possible that a black dye had faded (a lot) to dark green, but she refused to even see the greenness.

What is an insexct? Something like this?

blu3cat

Jay dubbleU wrote:

Ah - that's a whole different game

Bored now - I've been called in for my tea

yep catcha later, off to pootle home, Philosphy thread anyone?

blu3cat

Porgy wrote:

blu3cat wrote:

Jay dubbleU wrote:

The event will have a effect on the observer - the key is to interpret the effect - verbal communication is not the only form

The observer has an effect on the event.

Not for Bishop Berkely - and only for quantum mechanics surely? Big stuff like trees is still Newtonian.

damn one more, and 500 posts.

Yep only Quantum Mechanics, newtonian mechanics are an approximation (albeit a damn fine one) of the net effect of the quantum process for low energy big systems..

jimjamyaharr

blu3cat
Right im getting there s l o w l y
i now understand the stuff about the tree and vibrations being there but not makeing a sound if there is nothing to actually hear the vibrations and iv hear something about that blokes cat being in a box and that it could be both dead or alive because you cant see if its alive or dead? is that right? but i think thats silly because it has to be one or the other, is there a right or wrong awnser?


I have lots of questions but no awnsers

Headhuunter

jimjamyaharr wrote:

blu3cat
Right im getting there s l o w l y
i now understand the stuff about the tree and vibrations being there but not makeing a sound if there is nothing to actually hear the vibrations and iv hear something about that blokes cat being in a box and that it could be both dead or alive because you cant see if its alive or dead? is that right? but i think thats silly because it has to be one or the other, is there a right or wrong awnser?


I have lots of questions but no awnsers

BluCat, I think you need to set up a quantum mechanics/metaphysics/philiosophy thread. You appear to be the guru....

jimjamyaharr

yeah i agree i found this thread very intresting

but have very littel understanding

i am on a path for knolege

stephen hawkins look out

Kieran_Burns

jimjamyaharr wrote:

blu3cat
Right im getting there s l o w l y
i now understand the stuff about the tree and vibrations being there but not makeing a sound if there is nothing to actually hear the vibrations and iv hear something about that blokes cat being in a box and that it could be both dead or alive because you cant see if its alive or dead? is that right? but i think thats silly because it has to be one or the other, is there a right or wrong awnser?


I have lots of questions but no awnsers

The first true wisdom is accepting that we know nothing.

blu3cat

Kieran_Burns wrote:

jimjamyaharr wrote:

blu3cat
Right im getting there s l o w l y
i now understand the stuff about the tree and vibrations being there but not makeing a sound if there is nothing to actually hear the vibrations and iv hear something about that blokes cat being in a box and that it could be both dead or alive because you cant see if its alive or dead? is that right? but i think thats silly because it has to be one or the other, is there a right or wrong awnser?


I have lots of questions but no awnsers

The first true wisdom is accepting that we know nothing.

Kieran_Burns, true enlightenment follows such a first step.

You lot asked for it, a thread for philosphical questions. Oh and I cannot accept any credit, there's loads of people on here who are far more knowledgeable than I.
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