Drafting RLJer rear-ends car at Clapham South.

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  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    Bluesacs,

    From Wiki - The universal decided in all Internet disagreements.
    Schadenfreude is pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others. This German word is used as a loanword in English and sometimes in other languages.

    The last sentence explains why you have used a clearly German word on an English site and everyone (not everyone can speak or read German) has understood it. Therefore LiT was right, completely

    Now explain to me where I have indicated pleasure from his misfortune. In my second post I clearly indicated that I'm glad he wasn't hurt.

    What I said was that I had no sympathy for him because he caused the accident.

    Sympathy and Pleasure are two completely different things.

    I'll post part of my second post for clarity sake:
    I'm glad the cyclist wasn't hurt but what he did was not only a danger to himself but to others. It's the latter part of the sentence that makes me have a lack of sympathy.
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  • Greg T
    Greg T Posts: 3,266
    edited July 2009
    bluesacs wrote:
    I don't think we should be smirking because something happens to somebody when they're doing something like drafting or RLJing. People should try to rise above it,

    Why?

    I enjoy watching good friends fall off small ladders.

    As soon as "You've been framed" does box sets I'll be front of the queue at HMV.

    If you draught / RLJ and stack it without hurting anyone I'll be the first to laugh at you.

    Hurt yourself then fine I'll stifle my giggles - hurt someone else and I'll think about giving you a shoeing.
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  • bluesacs
    bluesacs Posts: 95
    Cheers Biondino. :D
  • Soul Boy
    Soul Boy Posts: 359
    Greg T wrote:
    hurt someone else and I'll think about giving you a shoeing.

    Would Thora Hurd really do that?
  • Paulie W
    Paulie W Posts: 1,492
    Soul Boy wrote:
    Greg T wrote:
    hurt someone else and I'll think about giving you a shoeing.

    Would Thora Hurd really do that?

    I'm pretty sure she gave Compo a kicking once.
  • Greg T
    Greg T Posts: 3,266
    Paulie W wrote:
    Soul Boy wrote:
    Greg T wrote:
    hurt someone else and I'll think about giving you a shoeing.

    Would Thora Hurd really do that?

    I'm pretty sure she gave Compo a kicking once.

    Thora Hurd was a nasty little scrapper that's for certain,

    "Cup of Tea" dear and before you know it she's thrown boiling liquid in your eyes and is going about your head with a Stannah Chair lift catalogue (large print).

    I model myself of her.
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  • Agent57
    Agent57 Posts: 2,300
    biondino wrote:
    Need to figure out the difference between trolling and joking...

    Maybe, but the lack of a smiley or winky indicates trolling to me. If it was intended as humour or sarcasm, that's best indicated since it's so easy to miss - smilies emerged for a reason, after all. Besides, it's very easy to troll and then claim it was a joke in retrospect if no one bites or laughs.
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  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    edited July 2009
    Also,

    How very dare you accuse me of laughing at someone elses misfortune.

    FFS what's next?

    Let's all start hugging hoodies for having a hard life while they're stabbing and robbing us blind! Where's the love!?
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  • Paulie W
    Paulie W Posts: 1,492
    Greg T wrote:
    Paulie W wrote:
    Soul Boy wrote:
    Greg T wrote:
    hurt someone else and I'll think about giving you a shoeing.

    Would Thora Hurd really do that?

    I'm pretty sure she gave Compo a kicking once.

    Thora Hurd was a nasty little scrapper that's for certain,

    "Cup of Tea" dear and before you know it she's thrown boiling liquid in your eyes and is going about your head with a Stannah Chair lift catalogue (large print).

    I model myself of her.

    Here she is hanging a donkey: http://www.donkey-village.org.uk/images ... oliver.gif
  • -spider-
    -spider- Posts: 2,548
    Paulie W wrote:

    How could she - and to give it a pair of specs first is unforgivable.

    Oh - just in case - :D

    -Spider-
  • symo
    symo Posts: 1,743
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    Bluesacs,

    From Wiki - The universal decided in all Internet disagreements.
    Schadenfreude is pleasure derived from the misfortunes of others. This German word is used as a loanword in English and sometimes in other languages.

    The last sentence explains why you have used a clearly German word on an English site and everyone (not everyone can speak or read German) has understood it. Therefore LiT was right, completely

    Now explain to me where I have indicated pleasure from his misfortune. In my second post I clearly indicated that I'm glad he wasn't hurt.

    What I said was that I had no sympathy for him because he caused the accident.

    Sympathy and Pleasure are two completely different things.

    I'll post part of my second post for clarity sake:
    I'm glad the cyclist wasn't hurt but what he did was not only a danger to himself but to others. It's the latter part of the sentence that makes me have a lack of sympathy.

    Ah but because it is a loanword then it does not have to used in it's exact meaning in english. Its crude usage has come to mean taking joy in the misfortune of others and that was the op's use of it. Poetic justice would cover the "situation" but this was definetely a case that the op was "feeling" so schadenfreude is definetely been used in the right context. LiT yer wrong.
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  • bluesacs
    bluesacs Posts: 95
    "but the lack of a smiley or winky indicates trolling to me."

    Mmmm, the trollfinder general has arrived.

    Those smiley faces and stuff are the equivalent of holding up cue cards to the audience to tell them to laugh; no thinking involved, should I laugh, is it for real, let's think about this. So i don't usually do that, though I thought Biondino deserved a big smile.
  • Agent57
    Agent57 Posts: 2,300
    bluesacs wrote:
    "but the lack of a smiley or winky indicates trolling to me."

    Mmmm, the trollfinder general has arrived.

    No one expects the trollish inquisition.
    bluesacs wrote:
    Those smiley faces and stuff are the equivalent of holding up cue cards to the audience to tell them to laugh; no thinking involved, should I laugh, is it for real, let's think about this.

    I don't entirely agree. Normally, there are other cues; facial expressions, vocal intonation, etc. which we pick up on in order to determine whether something's intended as a joke or seriously. We don't have any of these in this medium, so smilies serve as a substitution to clarify intent.

    I do agree it's possible to find something funny or recognise a joke when it's not delivered with a wink and a smile though; comedians such as Jack Dee perhaps being examples. In that context, however, it's expected to be a joke in the first place.

    With something so clearly polarising as red light jumping, I think it makes sense to indicate that a comment is intended as a joke, rather than trolling for a reaction.
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  • Kieran_Burns
    Kieran_Burns Posts: 9,757
    bluesacs wrote:
    "but the lack of a smiley or winky indicates trolling to me."

    Mmmm, the trollfinder general has arrived.

    Those smiley faces and stuff are the equivalent of holding up cue cards to the audience to tell them to laugh; no thinking involved, should I laugh, is it for real, let's think about this. So i don't usually do that, though I thought Biondino deserved a big smile.

    Wholly incorrect in my opinion.

    Approximately 80% of human communication is non-verbal, and therefore the written word can be easily misinterpreted due to the lack of non-verbal feedback.

    Consequently, the addition of the smilies is somewhat necessary to add 'feeling' the words if there is any doubt about their interpretation.

    A case in point being the different interpretations placed upon the OPs original post. :)
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  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    symo wrote:
    Ah but because it is a loanword then it does not have to used in it's exact meaning in english. Its crude usage has come to mean taking joy in the misfortune of others and that was the op's use of it. Poetic justice would cover the "situation" but this was definetely a case that the op was "feeling" so schadenfreude is definetely been used in the right context. LiT yer wrong.

    I'm going to burst a vein in a moment.

    Where the feck in any of my fecking posts have I fecking well indicated getting fecking joy in the fecking misfortune of the fecking cyclist.

    In fact f*ck it. He was drafting and attempting to RLJ at a junction, I've seen him do this before. Glad he's OK but serves him right for crashing while doing something so stupidly dangerous that could endanger others.

    Had it been serious and he caused himself injury to others in the eyes of the law, regardless of his condition he would be held accountable and likely guity of whatever punishment. So serves him right.

    And feck the lot of you who disagree with me, bunch of hoody-huggy-hippies.

    Rant over.
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  • hisoka
    hisoka Posts: 541
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    symo wrote:
    Ah but because it is a loanword then it does not have to used in it's exact meaning in english. Its crude usage has come to mean taking joy in the misfortune of others and that was the op's use of it. Poetic justice would cover the "situation" but this was definetely a case that the op was "feeling" so schadenfreude is definetely been used in the right context. LiT yer wrong.

    I'm going to burst a vein in a moment.

    Where the feck in any of my fecking posts have I fecking well indicated getting fecking joy in the fecking misfortune of the fecking cyclist.

    In fact f*ck it. He was drafting and attempting to RLJ at a junction, I've seen him do this before. Glad he's OK but serves him right for crashing while doing something so stupidly dangerous that could endanger others.

    Had it been serious and he caused himself injury to others in the eyes of the law, regardless of his condition he would be held accountable and likely guity of whatever punishment. So serves him right.

    And feck the lot of you who disagree with me, bunch of hoody-huggy-hippies.

    Rant over.

    Great rant there, and fine usage of the word feck.

    P.S. I agree, had someone like this but drafting me once and he called me an a*shole for stopping at a red light so I can see the lack of sympathy for someone not obviously hurt there.
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  • Greg T
    Greg T Posts: 3,266
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    And feck the lot of you who disagree with me

    That's the stuff. Have you ripped your T-Shirt off?

    A man has a minor off involving no injury to anyone (including the car it would seem) - that was entirley his own fault and preventable. That's comedy gold

    "Man acts like a dick and falls off bike"

    If DX3 doesn't think that's funny I do.
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  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    DonDaddyD wrote:

    And feck the lot of you who disagree with me, bunch of hoody-huggy-hippies.

    Rant over.

    I find this amusing.*

    *read :lol:
  • Sewinman
    Sewinman Posts: 2,131
    +1 DDD - you go girl! :D:):lol:
  • Soul Boy
    Soul Boy Posts: 359
    DDD vs Thora. I'd pay to see that. :lol:
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    I'm a lover not a fighter, especially with the ladies....
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  • jedster
    jedster Posts: 1,717
    A man has a minor off involving no injury to anyone (including the car it would seem) - that was entirley his own fault and preventable. That's comedy gold

    "Man acts like a dick and falls off bike"

    If DX3 doesn't think that's funny I do.

    + loads

    all that sanctimonious bollox about schadenfreude not becoming you (shakes head) - if you can't laugh at slapstick but injury free just desserts what the feck can you laugh at????
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  • Kieran_Burns
    Kieran_Burns Posts: 9,757
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    I'm a lover not a fighter, especially with the ladies....

    I do both at the same time... 8)


    Was that too much information? :shock:
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  • Paulie W
    Paulie W Posts: 1,492
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    I'm a lover not a fighter, especially with the ladies....

    Thora's not a Lady she's a Dame.
  • biondino
    biondino Posts: 5,990
    She certainly is:

    thora_birch_7.jpg
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    Not a fan.
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    A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game
  • DonDaddyD
    ?
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    I could snap her like a twig... Liz Hurley fan, always...

    It's the accent that does it. So posh its dirty....
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    A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game
  • hisoka
    hisoka Posts: 541
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    I could snap her like a twig... Liz Hurley fan, always...

    It's the accent that does it. So posh its dirty....

    +1
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  • jimjamyaharr
    jimjamyaharr Posts: 96
    edited July 2009
    DonDaddyD
    you could snap her like a twig?
    how?
    wye?