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pabloweaver
pabloweaver Posts: 444
Hi all ,

I like the look of this and I'm thinking of doing it ( prob on my billy no mates ! ), how does it compare with the Spud Riley and Rivington ( new ride ) in terms of event, difficulty etc.

probably only able to get one sportive in before my holidays in September and so I'm juggling this or the Bill Bradley ride ( neither of which I have done, but both are in my native north west )

any feedback appreciated.

regards

P
http://www.northcheshireclarion.co.uk/

Great club in and around the Warrington area.
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  • ColinJ
    ColinJ Posts: 2,218
    I haven't done the other events but I've done the PP several times. It is extremely hilly and extremely scenic. If you like that kind of thing, you'll love it. If you don't, you'll hate it!
  • Will Young
    Will Young Posts: 26
    The PP is a good ride. It's deceptive in that the first half is not too demanding, but the final half, particularly the last third actually, has a real kick and some real tough climbs. It has a nice atmosphere and lots of people turn out to watch. I'd definitely recommend you do it. I'm down to ride it as usual. Nice to meet another fan of the Great Harry Flashman by the way!!
  • deets
    deets Posts: 17
    I've not done the Pendle pedal before this year, but did (survived!) the Spud Riley this year. I know most of the Pendle route and expect it to be every bit as tough as the Spud, if not harder. I'd agree that the area is beautiful, amazing roads for cycling, looking forward to it
  • pabloweaver
    pabloweaver Posts: 444
    Im hoping the weather can't be anything like what it was for the Spud..............


    I really shouldn't have said that should I :roll:

    think I will just sign up and get on with it :D
    http://www.northcheshireclarion.co.uk/

    Great club in and around the Warrington area.
  • pabloweaver
    pabloweaver Posts: 444
    Will Young wrote:
    . Nice to meet another fan of the Great Harry Flashman by the way!!

    cant beat Sir Harry, what he would make of this cycling lark god knows ..... then again Cippolinni could well be a distant offspring given some of his " interests " ! :lol:
    http://www.northcheshireclarion.co.uk/

    Great club in and around the Warrington area.
  • ColinJ
    ColinJ Posts: 2,218
    Will Young wrote:
    The PP is a good ride. It's deceptive in that the first half is not too demanding, but the final half, particularly the last third actually, has a real kick and some real tough climbs.
    There are some big climbs in the first 44km - Waddington Fell, Lamb Fell, Tatham Fell are pretty demanding for most people!

    From the top of Tatham Fell at 44 km, there is a fantastic descent which seems to go on forever. It's about 18 km before there is any more significant climbing.

    There is a small climb between Gressingham and Over Kellet and then there is another 17 km of undulating roads before the left turn at the Quernmore crossroads.

    The climb from the crossroads to Jubilee Tower is tough! I had a gang of lads go past me at the foot of the climb once and one of them teased me for using a triple. I overtook them halfway up - they were all reduced to walking! :wink:

    After a nice descent, there is a climb over the Trough of Bowland from the easier side, followed by a fantastic descent but note - . Watch out for stray sheep - I know of one cyclist who died and one who was paralysed after hitting sheep on that descent.

    There is usually a feed station at Burholme Bridge but don't eat too much because you have to go straight up a tough little 100 m climb on the way over to Chipping.

    The PP used to take the easy way up to Longridge Fell through the town, but now it goes straight up the hillside at Birks which is a much harder climb.

    After getting up onto the Fell, there is a much easier drag up to Jeffrey Hill.

    From Jeffrey Hill there is a good 15 km run down to Clitheroe and this is where you might start to get lulled into a false sense of security! :D

    You are only 26 km from the finish so you might be planning on an easy hour or so to get to the finish - unless you are super-fit - think again! If you haven't studied the route, you are in for a series of nasty shocks...

    The climb over the Nick o' Pendle to Sabden is very hard.

    Black Hill from Sabden to Padiham Heights is a bit of a pig.

    There is a nice run along the hillside until you approach a left turn and suddenly the road drops down and then bears right. If you look way up to your left you can see another road. Breathe a sigh of relief that you don't have to climb up there...

    ... then weep over your handlebars when you realise that you do! Engage your granniest gear and grunt your way over to Newchurch-in-Pendle!

    You get 4 km of relief on the descent to Roughlee and then one final 4km climb to Greystone on the A682. Watch the traffic on that road - the A682 has a very poor safety record. Also, since you'll probably be tired - make sure you don't miss your right turn halfway down the descent - you won't want to have to climb back up again!

    From there it is an easy run back to event HQ in Barnoldswick.
  • pabloweaver
    pabloweaver Posts: 444
    ColinJ wrote:
    Will Young wrote:
    The PP is a good ride. It's deceptive in that the first half is not too demanding, but the final half, particularly the last third actually, has a real kick and some real tough climbs.
    There are some big climbs in the first 44km - Waddington Fell, Lamb Fell, Tatham Fell are pretty demanding for most people!

    From the top of Tatham Fell at 44 km, there is a fantastic descent which seems to go on forever. It's about 18 km before there is any more significant climbing.

    There is a small climb between Gressingham and Over Kellet and then there is another 17 km of undulating roads before the left turn at the Quernmore crossroads.

    The climb from the crossroads to Jubilee Tower is tough! I had a gang of lads go past me at the foot of the climb once and one of them teased me for using a triple. I overtook them halfway up - they were all reduced to walking! :wink:

    After a nice descent, there is a climb over the Trough of Bowland from the easier side, followed by a fantastic descent but note - . Watch out for stray sheep - I know of one cyclist who died and one who was paralysed after hitting sheep on that descent.

    There is usually a feed station at Burholme Bridge but don't eat too much because you have to go straight up a tough little 100 m climb on the way over to Chipping.

    The PP used to take the easy way up to Longridge Fell through the town, but now it goes straight up the hillside at Birks which is a much harder climb.

    After getting up onto the Fell, there is a much easier drag up to Jeffrey Hill.

    From Jeffrey Hill there is a good 15 km run down to Clitheroe and this is where you might start to get lulled into a false sense of security! :D

    You are only 26 km from the finish so you might be planning on an easy hour or so to get to the finish - unless you are super-fit - think again! If you haven't studied the route, you are in for a series of nasty shocks...

    The climb over the Nick o' Pendle to Sabden is very hard.

    Black Hill from Sabden to Padiham Heights is a bit of a pig.

    There is a nice run along the hillside until you approach a left turn and suddenly the road drops down and then bears right. If you look way up to your left you can see another road. Breathe a sigh of relief that you don't have to climb up there...

    ... then weep over your handlebars when you realise that you do! Engage your granniest gear and grunt your way over to Newchurch-in-Pendle!

    You get 4 km of relief on the descent to Roughlee and then one final 4km climb to Greystone on the A682. Watch the traffic on that road - the A682 has a very poor safety record. Also, since you'll probably be tired - make sure you don't miss your right turn halfway down the descent - you won't want to have to climb back up again!

    From there it is an easy run back to event HQ in Barnoldswick.

    now thats what I call feedback! I dont know if I'm inspired or terrified !

    I particularly like " From there it is an easy run back to event "...... :lol:
    http://www.northcheshireclarion.co.uk/

    Great club in and around the Warrington area.
  • andy_wrx
    andy_wrx Posts: 3,396
    Last year’s event
    http://www.bikeradar.com/road/forums/vi ... t=12579220
    http://www.bikeradar.com/road/forums/vi ... t=12558627
    2007
    http://www.bikeradar.com/road/forums/vi ... t=12539304

    Colin definitely doesn't like Jubilee Towers, although I don't find it too bad.

    The drop down after the Trough is quite exciting, you can get serious-silly speed if you're brave, but there's a chicane over a little bridge and a culvert at the side of the road you'd fly into if you got it wrong, so it's a case of balancing bravery vs. skill...

    As Colin says, it is seriously hard after Clitheroe - the first year I did it I got to that last foodstop, thought I had only 15 miles or so to go and so it would only take another hour ...wrong ! Very stiff sting in the tail, that last bit.

    If you got round the Spud, you'll do it, but it is a notch harder.
    Not quite Fred Whitton, but I think harder than the White Rose too.

    But superb scenery, good foodstops, well signed and decently organised.
    It deserves to be a more popular event, you can find yourself out there alone, but on the other hand that means it's not too crowded and the riding standards of those who do do it tend to be reasonable too.

    Have fun !
  • Stelvio_W
    Stelvio_W Posts: 25
    I did the PP last year, its a great ride and would recommend it. They were very generous at the food stops and the scenery is great.

    When I signed up I had no idea how hard it was going to be. In fact, I got my girlfriend roped in and said she should do the shorter route. In retrospect, her 1970's Coventry Eagle with dodgy brakes did look out of place next to all the carbon fibre, but off she went.

    We dont really talk about the ride, or what happened. I caught up with her at Clitheroe as I was on the longer ride, and found her in a mixed mood , essentially a mix of being mad / upset and knackered. Ok....I maybe said to her before hand that it was flat-ish, but she will never forgive me for the pain that she suffered lugging the 'Eagle' over the Lancashire countryside. Luckily my Sister lives in Clitheroe, so it was there that her first.. and probally last Sportive ended.

    I headed out from Clitheroe, only to encounter some of the hardest riding to date. Like other comments, this bit is the killer..however its a very rewarding ride. I'm heading back there this year.. this time without the g/f ! She is having a weekend at a spa instead.
  • ColinJ
    ColinJ Posts: 2,218
    andy_wrx wrote:
    Colin definitely doesn't like Jubilee Towers, although I don't find it too bad.
    It's not that I don't like it - I love hills - it's just that I'm still 30-odd pounds overweight and feel every one of them when the road goes up! :oops:
  • Geoff55
    Geoff55 Posts: 7
    Err... I signed up for this as my first sportive, an my first 100mile ride.

    The comments above confirm my suspicions:

    1) my research is crap

    2) it is scenic, and

    3) I'm going to do it anyway. I like the area and am confident of enjoying it, now that I know to keep something in reserve for the last 46km
  • andy_wrx
    andy_wrx Posts: 3,396
    1) :roll: :lol: :shock:

    2) yes it is

    3) Good for you Geoff !
    Just take it steady, no heroics, don't get over-enthusiastic and go off with a group going too fast for you early on.
    If it's your first and you go too conservatively and finish thinking you could have gone quicker - alright do another and go a bit harder next time. Better than going too hard and having a miserable time.
    Good luck - have a good one.
  • All useful stuff this. I'm fairly local but ironically know the roads over to the west much better than the more eastern section. It'll be my first 100 miler for a while, having opted for the medium WRC this year - which I found ok, but I'm very grateful for the tips about keeping something in reserve for the last bit!
  • ColinJ
    ColinJ Posts: 2,218
    To give you an indication of how tough it is - the fastest riders do the 100 miles in about 6 hours - a long time for a class rider to take for a century ride.

    I take about 6 hours to do the Manchester 100 but I take over 9 hours to do the PP! (I am usually one of the very last finishers... :cry: )
  • pabloweaver
    pabloweaver Posts: 444
    posted elsewhere, but I'm now fretting about how much my bout of piggy flu is going to knock me off fitness for this.

    not done a 100 this year ( was planned for the spud but weather saw to that ! ) and certainly not done a 100 on my jack jones ......all of which are adding up to what should be ...er....an interesting day ! :shock:
    http://www.northcheshireclarion.co.uk/

    Great club in and around the Warrington area.
  • If you dont feel great on the day I believe you can change to the 60 mile ride .dircretion being the better part ot etc.
    positivley 4th street
  • ColinJ
    ColinJ Posts: 2,218
    If you dont feel great on the day I believe you can change to the 60 mile ride .dircretion being the better part ot etc.
    True - I did that last year. I rode from Hebden Bridge to Barnoldswick to do the event and was riding back again afterwards. I wasn't really fit enough to do the full ride plus another 40-odd hilly miles on top, and once I got soaked early on I quickly decided to do the shorter ride.

    It was still a nice route, it just took a shortcut from Newton to Dunsop Bridge and missed out the northern section of the longer route.
  • pabloweaver
    pabloweaver Posts: 444
    well, first day off the sofa for a week and bike time starts again tomorrow. Gives me a couple of weeks to get back to sorts, but its good to know there is a shorter route as plan B.

    now all i need to do is eat, eat and eat some more !
    http://www.northcheshireclarion.co.uk/

    Great club in and around the Warrington area.
  • I've come back from my jollies to get my entry pack for this - am I right in thinking it's not chip timed?
  • With my unerring ability to answer my own question (is there a name for that?) I've just called Pennine Events - you get your chip on the day, so hence a need to arrive in good time.
  • how many have entered this sportive, i cant find the list of riders anywhere or where the feed stops are.
  • andy_wrx
    andy_wrx Posts: 3,396
    i cant find where the feed stops are.

    http://www.pennineevents.co.uk/PendlePe ... tails.html

    Slaidburn - on the village green
    Crook o'Lune - car park
    Chipping - can't remember !
    Clitheroe - Sports centre as you come into town
  • Just spotted this ride.

    I am fairly new to this cycling lark, no even clipping in yet.

    I did the Manc to Blackpool in little over 4hrs. How does this compare ? am thinking of turning up to do the 60mile route?
  • Radiation Man - local paper said about 500 people have entered.

    One fact - I think "significantly lumpier" would be one way of putting it - it'll be a great challenge and much nicer roads. The weather looks ok - get out and do it!
  • Looks like I need an early night then
  • ColinJ
    ColinJ Posts: 2,218
    One fact - I think "significantly lumpier" would be one way of putting it - it'll be a great challenge and much nicer roads. The weather looks ok - get out and do it!
    This is a subtle example of 'Yorkshire understatement'!
    Looks like I need an early night then

    pendle-pedal-100-km-profile.jpg
    I'd go to bed now if I were you... :wink:
  • What goes up has to come down.

    Looking forward to the challenge now.

    best getting cooking some pasta and chicken then a few weetabix for the morning.

    What sort of time should i be loooking at for the 60miles route?
  • ColinJ
    ColinJ Posts: 2,218
    What goes up has to come down.

    Looking forward to the challenge now.

    best getting cooking some pasta and chicken then a few weetabix for the morning.

    What sort of time should i be loooking at for the 60miles route?
    Unless you are some sort of climbing god, I reckon that it will take you at least 90 minutes longer than the M-B, maybe 2 hours, so 5 hrs 30 mins - 6 hrs?

    The weather forecast is looking okay for you. Let us know how you do.
  • Cool thanks its just so i can pace myself, don't wanna go out the blocks to fast.

    fingers crossed for the weather.

    will let you all know how i do come sunday night all being well.
  • davelakers
    davelakers Posts: 762
    Ouch........

    Sixty miles of cramp ridden punishment. Its hard work dragging a 15stone frame round that course. Happy with 5 hours though!!