Litespeed Dilemna
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NapoleonD wrote:I've ditched the red tyres on my Look and now have black Force/Attack after I saw the light.
I just wish Vittoria did the Open Paves in black. They are my most fave tyre ever.
Skydog, the main hifi is CD, the CD player is better than any Vinyl I've heard (I've heard some top stuff too), not least due to the fact that getting good Vinyl is hard, the better the kit, the more it shows up the deficiencies in the pressing. My CD player was a bottom of the range dCS one, (at £6.5k!), the ones above it are even more astounding.
That said, I have an LP12 in the upstairs system and do enjoy a bit of a spin...
Good move on the tyres (visually at least). 8)
Sounds like you have (two!) nice systems. Mine is split between LP & CD ~ I have a Roksan Xerxes for vinyl and an Arcam for CD played through an Audiolab into PMC's GB1's. It sounds as good as my wallet will allow.
Cycling weakly0 -
cool, very cool "The only absolute statement is that everything is relative" - anon0 -
If you go for the Conti 4000s's, I'd be interested to hear how you rate them in comparison to the Vittorias. If you believe all the reviews, they're supposed to be the canines jewels.
Cycling weakly0 -
I had Conti GP 4000S before, I switched to the vittorias on one bike and Conti Force/Attack on the other.
I will not be switching back...0 -
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NapoleonD
How about some Michelin Pro Racers 3?x-x-x-x-x-x-x-x
Commuting / Winter rides - Jamis Renegade Expert
Pootling / Offroad - All-City Macho Man Disc
Fast rides Cannondale SuperSix Ultegra0 -
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NapoleonD wrote:I had Conti GP 4000S before, I switched to the vittorias on one bike and Conti Force/Attack on the other.
I will not be switching back...
After years of riding contis, I've just switched to the Vittorias. The green is hideous (my bike is blue and white), but they are worth it I think.0 -
APIII wrote:NapoleonD wrote:I had Conti GP 4000S before, I switched to the vittorias on one bike and Conti Force/Attack on the other.
I will not be switching back...
After years of riding contis, I've just switched to the Vittorias. The green is hideous (my bike is blue and white), but they are worth it I think.
Indeed, ugly but awesome (like me! Except I'm not awesome), hence they are staying...0 -
Looks like a quality beater, Nap! I don't have the red on my Ti to clash with my green tyres but they are the best tyres BY FAR for winter. I only lost traction once all winter including racing and riding in the snow. You can pick up all black Pave CGs on eBay now and then or the Veloflex Paves are worth a shot.
To all the Pro 3/GP4000S lovers, try some 290TPI tyres (320TPI this winter, wahey!) before succumbing to the visceral reaction to green! They are hosepipes. Not bad but still hosepipes. :-)0 -
i came across a deal where this bike shop will sell me a litespeed siena 2008 for $3,900 (used to be $5,900). It's the 2008 model. It's full dura ace, king headset. not including pedals. protube tires
Anyone, is this a good deal? is the 2008 a good model? thanks0 -
salj wrote:i came across a deal where this bike shop will sell me a litespeed siena 2008 for $3,900 (used to be $5,900). It's the 2008 model. It's full dura ace, king headset. not including pedals. protube tires
Anyone, is this a good deal? is the 2008 a good model? thanks
That depends on which Country's Dollars...
...and what other bikes retail at in your country. Cycling weakly0 -
good point
sorry!
US dollars
and as to the other question... they retail for a whole range0 -
Yes, it's a good deal!
The 2008 model is the same as the 09 model without the ridiculous red paint...0 -
thank you NapoleonD
I'm decided
thanks for your help
the other things i need to find out from them that I don't know:
--what wheels they have on it and what tires
(any recommendations?)
Plus I need pedals--clipless--any ones you recommend?
thank you! 0 -
NapoleonD wrote:I had Conti GP 4000S before, I switched to the vittorias on one bike and Conti Force/Attack on the other.
I will not be switching back...
While we are talking about rubber:
I've been a motorcyclist for quite a while, both on and off road. The problem with Bicycle tyres in my opinion is the lack of feedback or reassurance that you are not about to wash out. Conti Force/Attacks are the best I've tried in both wet and dry conditions, I get the same feeling as when I had decent Motorcycle tyres.I have Michelin Pro 3's on one bike a the moment, they are garbage in the wet.
I have a sneaking feeling if you would have had Force/Attacks on Friday 13th the outcome would have been less severe......0 -
spanielsson wrote:NapoleonD wrote:I had Conti GP 4000S before, I switched to the vittorias on one bike and Conti Force/Attack on the other.
I will not be switching back...
While we are talking about rubber:
I've been a motorcyclist for quite a while, both on and off road. The problem with Bicycle tyres in my opinion is the lack of feedback or reassurance that you are not about to wash out. Conti Force/Attacks are the best I've tried in both wet and dry conditions, I get the same feeling as when I had decent Motorcycle tyres.I have Michelin Pro 3's on one bike a the moment, they are garbage in the wet.
I have a sneaking feeling if you would have had Force/Attacks on Friday 13th the outcome would have been less severe......
Me too!0 -
salj wrote:thank you NapoleonD
I'm decided
thanks for your help
the other things i need to find out from them that I don't know:
--what wheels they have on it and what tires
(any recommendations?)
Plus I need pedals--clipless--any ones you recommend?
thank you!
IIRC it should have Fulcrum Racing 1 wheels with Pro 3 tyres.
As for pedals, why not complete the Dura Ace set and get some of them?
I use Look pedals personally but the Shimano ones are good.0 -
thank you NapoleonD
I'm decided
thanks for your help
the other things i need to find out from them that I don't know:
--what wheels they have on it and what tires
(any recommendations?)
Plus I need pedals--clipless--any ones you recommend?
thank you!
IIRC it should have Fulcrum Racing 1 wheels with Pro 3 tyres.
As for pedals, why not complete the Dura Ace set and get some of them?
I use Look pedals personally but the Shimano ones are good.
thanks so much
what is "IIRC"?
TIRES: they told me it has Protube tyres (just rechecked my notes)
is that the same as Pro 3 tyres?
I want to have tyres that are reasonably puncture proof.
Will ask about the Fulcrum Racing 1 wheels
PEDALS: and thanks for the tip on the pedals--they suggested Keo classic0 -
Keo classics are fine and good value.
IIRC, IIRC means 'if I remembered correctly' or similar such words...
Not heard of 'Protube' tyres.
I'd confirm with them the exact spec before buying, let us know what it is before you commit. If they have swapped out some of the parts it may not be such a bargain...0 -
salj
I'd recommend Look pedals...have Keo carbons and Keo Sprints, their both superb...mate has Shimano and has trashed the cleats well quickly...could just be him mind lol....oh and Shimano pedal bearings never seem to last me long...not usual for shimano I know...Look are better
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For winter tyres Conti 4 Season or the Ultra's are about as tough / grippy but light as you can get.0 -
turnerjohn wrote:salj
I'd recommend Look pedals...have Keo carbons and Keo Sprints, their both superb...mate has Shimano and has trashed the cleats well quickly...could just be him mind lol....oh and Shimano pedal bearings never seem to last me long...not usual for shimano I know...Look are better .
For winter tyres Conti 4 Season or the Ultra's are about as tough / grippy but light as you can get.
All three of mine have Look pedals, Carbons on 1, and Sprints on the other two. They have lasted well with zero issues as have the cleats.0 -
Keo classics are fine and good value.
IIRC, IIRC means 'if I remembered correctly' or similar such words...
Not heard of 'Protube' tyres.
I'd confirm with them the exact spec before buying, let us know what it is before you commit. If they have swapped out some of the parts it may not be such a bargain...
LOL re IIRC! thought it was some special technical term
and V good idea. I will check on full specs and run them by you
(THANK YOU!)
so helpful to have your expert opinions here0 -
I'd recommend Look pedals...have Keo carbons and Keo Sprints, their both superb...mate has Shimano and has trashed the cleats well quickly...could just be him mind lol....oh and Shimano pedal bearings never seem to last me long...not usual for shimano I know...Look are better .
For winter tyres Conti 4 Season or the Ultra's are about as tough / grippy but light as you can get.
Thanks Turnerjohn That's great. Clearly Look pedals are cool.
And thanks for the recommendation re. the winter tyres. Guess it's a good idea to have at least two pairs--one for winter one for summer/racing0 -
frame: litespeed siena 2008
Components: Dura Ace 7800
Wheels: DT RR1.1 Rims
DT competition spokes
Dura Ace 7800 Hubs
Headset: Chris King
Stem: Easton EA30
Seatpost: Easton EC70
Handlebar: Deda Super Natural
saddle: Fizik Alliante
Tires: Michelin pro race
What do you think? Is this good quality stuff? The wheels aren't Fulcrum 1 racing
but the guy said these wheels he has on are very good ...
Would love your take--does it still look like good deal for 3,900?
SO appreciate your help all0 -
one other thing I thought of:
these tires--michelin pro rac--wondering, will i be getting flats all the time? from what I have read it seems they aren' t very forgiving. what might I request in place of the micehline pro race that would enable me to ride without fear of flats? thanks 0 -
If they're Pro 3 Race they're supposed to be pretty reasonable WRT punctures - review. Conti GP 4 Seasons as an alternative?
RBIT0 -
Yep, good wheels them, pretty good spec except for the stem which is bobbins. You must purchase, but ask them to put a good stem on it like a Thomson X2 instead. For free.0
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One of my colleagues commuted in this morning on his Siena. Nice bike. Hope you enjoy it Napoleon!
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