shopping trolley A level DT

trolleyman
trolleyman Posts: 3
edited June 2009 in Commuting chat
as part of my Alevel in DT i am designing a shopping trolley similar based on the pull aroung trolley used by the elderly. the difference is that mine will clip onto the back of a bike for travelling to the shops it will also be design for a modern clientel.

i would much appreciate any thoughts and ideas about the project

thanks
alex
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  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    trolleyman wrote:
    as part of my Alevel in DT i am designing a shopping trolley similar based on the pull aroung trolley used by the elderly. the difference is that mine will clip onto the back of a bike for travelling to the shops it will also be design for a modern clientel.

    i would much appreciate any thoughts and ideas about the project

    thanks
    alex
    Make one that floats..... in canals. Judging by how many people appear try to transport shopping by canal, there may be a market demand.
  • Deadeye Duck
    Deadeye Duck Posts: 419
    remove all traces of tartan, which instantly associates it with the elderly. The only things that should be tartan are kilts! :lol:

    aerodynamics will be important if you want to use it with anything that has drops. how about something that is shaped like the front of a boat, but has the curve going out not in, so that it goes over the wheel?
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  • risi
    risi Posts: 231
    http://www.bikehod.com/bike-hod/index.html

    then just add some armbands to make it float...
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  • tardington
    tardington Posts: 1,379
    Waitrose do a bike trolley thing don't they?

    Googley - http://www.bikehod.com/bike-hod/shopping.html
  • White Line
    White Line Posts: 887
    A tall version of those kiddie trailer things? :D
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  • tardington
    tardington Posts: 1,379
    That's pretty much it. :lol:

    Still, this makes a nice change from the 'I'm designing new handlebars' topics we get. Though I did like the one with the chest-impaling spikes on.
  • tardington
    tardington Posts: 1,379
    That's pretty much it. :lol:

    Still, this makes a nice change from the 'I'm designing new handlebars' topics we get. Though I did like the one with the chest-impaling spikes on.
  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    Deadeye Duck wrote:
    The only things that should be tartan are kilts! :lol:
    Kilts are a crime against nature.

    There is no good reason for tartan on anything.

    Bagpipes are an ancient weapon.

    Haggis is an excellent way to disguise a murder.

    (Whisky is good though.)
  • ride_whenever
    ride_whenever Posts: 13,279
    seriously, if you're planning on towing something from a bike:

    Attatch it to the rear axle, use a ball hitch with a pin for easy putting on and off. Check out the chariot cougar trailers, really well made bits of kit.
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  • Deadeye Duck
    Deadeye Duck Posts: 419
    Always Tyred wrote:
    Deadeye Duck wrote:
    The only things that should be tartan are kilts! :lol:
    Kilts are a crime against nature.

    There is no good reason for tartan on anything.

    Bagpipes are an ancient weapon.

    Haggis is an excellent way to disguise a murder.

    (Whisky is good though.)
    Blasphemy! I'll have you know I look rather dashing in a kilt 8)
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  • wantaway
    wantaway Posts: 96
    do you mean to design something which is both a trailer and when detached is can be a shopping trolly on wheels?
  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    Deadeye Duck wrote:
    Always Tyred wrote:
    Deadeye Duck wrote:
    The only things that should be tartan are kilts! :lol:
    Kilts are a crime against nature.

    There is no good reason for tartan on anything.

    Bagpipes are an ancient weapon.

    Haggis is an excellent way to disguise a murder.

    (Whisky is good though.)
    Blasphemy! I'll have you know I look rather dashing in a kilt 8)
    So you agree with my assement of bagpipes, tartan and haggis then?
  • Deadeye Duck
    Deadeye Duck Posts: 419
    tartan has it's place (as a kilt) everything else, yes tartan is stupid.

    Haggis is F*cking disgusting.

    Bagpipes are ok, as long as it's not repeating the same song for 4 hours. like most of the players do.

    Whiskey is ace! :D
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  • UndercoverElephant
    UndercoverElephant Posts: 5,796
    Haggis is fantastic, I can only assume you found out what was in it before you tried it.

    Whiskey is also superb, I got a bottle of Balvenie for Father's day. 8)

    The bagpipes have their place, somewhere open and remote. If you ever have to suffer being in an enclosed space with a full pipe band you'll know what I mean.
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  • Deadeye Duck
    Deadeye Duck Posts: 419
    UndercoverElephant wrote:
    Haggis is fantastic, I can only assume you found out what was in it before you tried it.

    Whiskey is also superb, I got a bottle of Balvenie for Father's day. 8)

    The bagpipes have their place, somewhere open and remote. If you ever have to suffer being in an enclosed space with a full pipe band you'll know what I mean.
    No, no. I just almost threw up when I tried it. I was then told what was in it and understood why. Fried fruit pudding is a different story though. MMMmmmm.

    As for the bagpipes, yeah. 4 or 5 inside a building makes your stomach feel like its vibrating and is not good in the slightest :shock:
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  • trolleyman
    trolleyman Posts: 3
    wantaway wrote:
    do you mean to design something which is both a trailer and when detached is can be a shopping trolly on wheels?

    yes that is exactly what i intend to design
  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    Have you tried TrolleyRadar.

    :D
  • tardington
    tardington Posts: 1,379
    Il Principe wrote:
    Have you tried TrolleyRadar.

    :D

    :lol:http://www.trolleyspotting.co.uk/
  • Aidy
    Aidy Posts: 2,015
    I'd've thought it would be hard to do something which is suitable for shopping with and won't destroy bike handling.

    I'd be inclined to try something Bob Yak-esque, with some arrangement of fold down wheels for off the bike. Problems with that would be that it's too low down for shopping with, and they're designed to carry close top bags (which you need, so stuff doesn't fly out. You could use a cage structure, but then it would be horrible for carrying small objects); I'm imagining supermarkets aren't going to be a great fan of people putting things into opaque bags, although I suppose colourless ones are an option.

    The height thing is going to be a problem whatever, I think. Needs to be low for handling on the bike, and high to put things in so you don't have to constantly bend down. Raising/lowering mechanisms with suitable strength seem like they might be difficult to fit into a useful size and weight of package.
  • tardington
    tardington Posts: 1,379
    ...maybe if you had it so it was flat when it was attached to the bike, bob-style, but you pulled it upright or angled in the shop? Sort of a bob thing with two wheels at the rear end, and a handle at the other.

    Not sure about the visibility issue though... A string mesh? Exped bags have a see through window on...
  • Aidy
    Aidy Posts: 2,015
    Hmm, that's a good idea. Have to think about whether you could get appropiate height by doing so though.

    However, I'd be vaguely concerned about tipping all my stuff through 90 degrees.
  • toshmund
    toshmund Posts: 390
    Presumably it would need a multi-directional ball joint, bit like you get in a necklace. If you were so intent on carrying a load, wouldn't a trike just be the best option. We used to have some Pashley's at work. Cornering was a skill to behold tbh though? If you have the mobility to ride a bike, you should have the mobility to walk with a load. So leaving a trike outside the shop would be the best option. Give it cross country tyres your design though, and you would be catering to the canal towpath fisherman type as well. They always look a bit too precarious with the Shakespeare box slung over one shoulder and the rods/keep nets on the other.
  • 2tired2ride
    2tired2ride Posts: 285
    Wow this is slightly similar to my A Level project :shock:
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  • tardington
    tardington Posts: 1,379
    Could you sell it on to him?
  • skyd0g
    skyd0g Posts: 2,540
    ...those trailer devices for those expensive little people thingies have yet to be improved.
    ...they always produce a horrible whineing, screeching sound! :shock:
    ...especially when travelling downhill at 50mph
    ...and the stench afterwards :roll:
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  • tardington
    tardington Posts: 1,379
    :lol: but what do you mean?
  • 2tired2ride
    2tired2ride Posts: 285
    You could just redesign a cycle trailer to become a shopping trolly?

    Have you though about how this thing is going to be able to turn easly?

    Have you researched any similar products?

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    What is your design brief?

    Also is there a need for this product?
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  • pbt150
    pbt150 Posts: 316
    Deadeyeduck and UndercoverElephant - WhiskEy is NOT nice, it's horrible American stuff made from corn (maize). Whisky on the other hand is the excellent stuff that comes out of Scotland, preferably in the single malt variety. Big difference.
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  • Agent57
    Agent57 Posts: 2,300
    Malt whisky is horrid. Rum's where it's at. :D
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  • emdeef
    emdeef Posts: 98
    pbt150 wrote:
    Deadeyeduck and UndercoverElephant - WhiskEy is NOT nice, it's horrible American stuff made from corn (maize). Whisky on the other hand is the excellent stuff that comes out of Scotland, preferably in the single malt variety. Big difference.

    Whiskey is also Irish. I love the Scotch, but I have recently finished a bottle of Bushmills 12 year old and I have to admit it was very nice.

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