Boonen back and racing again
Seems Hurricane Tom is no longer suspended by his team and will be back racing next week. Sounds more like a training break than a suspension.
And his team is now saying they will fight for him to get into the Tour (after previously saying they wouldn't even bother). Court of Arbitration for Sport...
Not a hope in hell.
And his team is now saying they will fight for him to get into the Tour (after previously saying they wouldn't even bother). Court of Arbitration for Sport...
Not a hope in hell.
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Pokerface wrote:Seems Hurricane Tom is no longer suspended by his team and will be back racing next week. Sounds more like a training break than a suspension.
And his team is now saying they will fight for him to get into the Tour (after previously saying they wouldn't even bother). Court of Arbitration for Sport...
Not a hope in hell.
I really hope there is, Valverde is doing a lot more to bring the sport into disrepute than a guy celebrating a break after a successful period of racing. The disrepute justification for banning him when he did nothing against the rules is very wrong in my mind.Jibbering Sports Stuff: http://jibbering.com/sports/0 -
jibberjim wrote:I really hope there is, Valverde is doing a lot more to bring the sport into disrepute than a guy celebrating a break after a successful period of racing. The disrepute justification for banning him when he did nothing against the rules is very wrong in my mind.
I'm sure there are valid arguments on both sides of this one. But - it's their race and their rules and they can allow or deny whoever they want.
I agree that what Boonen did is minor in the grand scheme of things - but can also see why Prudhomme wouldn't want him in the Tour.0 -
Lefevere is an experienced team manager but I'd half-expect him to put in a call to ASO and book a lunch with Christian Prudhomme instead of brandishing the threat of a CAS appeal, which strikes me as a sure fire way to wind up the Tour organisers.0
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I say let him start the Tour. We need Cav Vs Petacchi Vs Boonen. If he does though there has to be some sort of 'corrective action plan' for addiction as part of the contractual conditions.0
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zammmmo wrote:I say let him start the Tour. We need Cav Vs Petacchi Vs Boonen. If he does though there has to be some sort of 'corrective action plan' for addiction as part of the contractual conditions.
Petacchi won't be there either as his team is not invited. Looks like it'll be Friere vs Hushovd vs Bennati vs Cav0 -
Pokerface wrote:zammmmo wrote:I say let him start the Tour. We need Cav Vs Petacchi Vs Boonen. If he does though there has to be some sort of 'corrective action plan' for addiction as part of the contractual conditions.
Petacchi won't be there either as his team is not invited. Looks like it'll be Friere vs Hushovd vs Bennati vs Cav
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zammmmo wrote:I say let him start the Tour. We need Cav Vs Petacchi Vs Boonen. If he does though there has to be some sort of 'corrective action plan' for addiction as part of the contractual conditions.
It doesn't work like that, if he or any one else takes on a drug avoidance program for any other reason other than his own well being it is almost certain to fail. This is well known in treatment circles, a classic example is the guy/girl giving it up for the wife/ husband and kids only to find it all ending in a relapse because they were trying to organise/control a situation involving others, people or things they had no control over in the first place. It is indeed a very difficult concept to convey, I may have managed . If not I can always go back to the 100+ mile ride just to take the edge off it.0 -
i'm sure they'll write something into his contract if there's a next time! but it will be mostly to save themselves further embarrassment, and to apply pressure (probably financial) on the man not to threepeat.
in this type of case programs/plans are more to do with 'being seen to do the right thing' for people in the public eye. maybe boonen really does have an addiction, but far more likely he's just doing the same as millions of other people of all ages and types do from time to time in their social life, and somehow missed the fact his dayjob means he gets blood tested. which is what makes him the real idiot.0 -
Boonen, crack and his heads racing again, I just couldn't retwist it.0
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mrsblucher wrote:i'm sure they'll write something into his contract if there's a next time! but it will be mostly to save themselves further embarrassment, and to apply pressure (probably financial) on the man not to threepeat.
in this type of case programs/plans are more to do with 'being seen to do the right thing' for people in the public eye. maybe boonen really does have an addiction, but far more likely he's just doing the same as millions of other people of all ages and types do from time to time in their social life, and somehow missed the fact his dayjob means he gets blood tested. which is what makes him the real idiot.
I believe it's already 3 times.___________________
Strava is not Zen.0 -
Maybe the publicity caravan could give out free samples of Tommeke's Marching Powder? Get people hooked on cycling?
I'll get me coat.... :arrow:0 -
According to het Nieuwsblad our Pat from the UCI sees no reason why Boonen should not ride the TdF. However he feels that there is a case to answer for bringing the sport into disrepute and setting a bad example - to that end the UCI will look at disciplinary sanctions when they review the dossier but that "may take some weeks" (or months, years, decades????)
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Not wishing to derail the thread at all, but just wondered why cocaine use "out of competition" in cycling is OK. Surely these guys, particularly during the Classics season, are pretty much going from one race to another with sometimes a day in between.
I used to swim internationally, and one of the country's best sprinters who I trained with also paid the bills by working the doors at night, then turned up for 5am training straight from work coked to the eyeballs.
His training in this state was pretty awesome, and one could argue that everytime he trained with a PHD in his system, he gained from it for racing. He got banned in an out of competition drug test, then again some time later.
If Boonen or any other cyclist was doing coke during training days (as Boonen clearly was), why shouldn't they be sanctioned?0 -
What race is he actually in?
Don't rule out Bennati either - he is the world's second best sprinter then there is quite a drop off from him.Contador is the Greatest0 -
frenchfighter wrote:What race is he actually in?
Don't rule out Bennati either - he is the world's second best sprinter then there is quite a drop off from him.
Some race in Belgium: http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/Boo ... 83227.html
Then the Dauphine Libere0 -
Probably QS after seeing a dismal performance in this year's Giro recognise that Boonen is the key their team's profile and so will push hard to have him included or face a disappointing Tour.Contador is the Greatest0
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frenchfighter wrote:Probably QS after seeing a dismal performance in this year's Giro recognise that Boonen is the key their team's profile and so will push hard to have him included or face a disappointing Tour.
Would that make Chavanel team leader if no Boonen? Or will it be Stijn the Man?0 -
Chavanel I would say given he has good form in the Tour and he is French. Great attacking rider. I like him a lot.Contador is the Greatest0
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That's why Lefevere seems ready to fight hard to get Boonen in the Tour, the rest of the QS team is good but not that good for the Tour. Chavanel might be good for a stage win, same for Weylandt, Davis or Barredo but there's no sure fire talent for July, despite Devolder's optimism about his GC abilities.0
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Kléber wrote:That's why Lefevere seems ready to fight hard to get Boonen in the Tour, the rest of the QS team is good but not that good for the Tour. Chavanel might be good for a stage win, same for Weylandt, Davis or Barredo but there's no sure fire talent for July, despite Devolder's optimism about his GC abilities.
To be fair to Devolder, the Flemish press really egg him on about his GC potential...Note: the above post is an opinion and not fact. It might be a lie.0 -
Can someone translate to see if he won today?
http://sporza.be/cm/sporza/wielrennen/0 ... n_gullegem
Thanks!Contador is the Greatest0 -
frenchfighter wrote:Can someone translate to see if he won today?
http://sporza.be/cm/sporza/wielrennen/0 ... n_gullegem
Thanks!
It's a pre-race interview.0 -
Thanks. Did he win today do you know?Contador is the Greatest0
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Bert De Backer, Skil-Shimano won today0
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... or even Weylandt (Quick Step)0
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2nd was Van Dijk ; 3rd. Van Avermaet.0
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Throw this guy out. A depressed guy gets thrown out for an herbal anti-depressant and this coke head clown will get to continue to do what he does. The UCI needs to screw their heads on straight.0
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Clemson Cycling wrote:Throw this guy out. A depressed guy gets thrown out for an herbal anti-depressant and this coke head clown will get to continue to do what he does. The UCI needs to screw their heads on straight.
The difference is TH did something which is against the rules.
TB didn't.Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
And Tom Boonen did something that broke the law in every developed country on the planet. It says a lot about the UCI that they continue to put up with drug addicts like this. Every major American league would have banned him for the year and sent him to rehab before he was welcome back, and this coke head got busted twice. How is cocaine not on the list of banned substances anyway.The difference is TH did something which is against the rules.
TB didn't.0 -
Out of competition...0
