Hate snobs on their common as muck bikes
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Confession time...... my boss has one of those Genesis bikes and I really liked it when I saw it. Reynolds 853 frame, decent (if modest) kit, worthy of upgrades in the future..... what's not to like about it?0
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996JAT wrote:Ok,
Lets put it as it is.
I'm new to cycling (2Years) and yes snobbery exists. Its just as cars.
I used to be a snob in a car years back.
I had an M5 and looked down at "poor people" in bmws with "no engine's".
I was ok when i first started cycling with my halfords carrera mountain bike. But then i brought a Road bike, a Trek 1.7, which if i admit is low in the range. So then you have it in your head when I see another Trek on the road i say "B*stards got a Madone".
To be honest its only people with Road bikes, i think because of the costs, ranges, options, carbon, ali, the racing scene too.
The Trek's V's The "Poor People on other Bikes" competition thing too.
There are so many reasons but it exists and i think its roadies for sure.
As long as your happy with your bike thats all that matters, I even thought of upgrading to get out of the not having a "Madone" thing, but just be happy with what you have !!
trek?
trek!!!?
wouldnt p1ss on a trek!
load of yankee rubbish'dont forget lads, one evertonian is worth twenty kopites'0 -
I couldn't bring myself or my Boras to read 4 pages of this, Im off to put my boo killed Sir Occos on0
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there is nothing , and i mean nothing better , than trouncing a lardarse on a dreambike , when you are fully fit on your cheapy !!! ( oh apart from a shag of course )0
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fast as fupp wrote:996JAT wrote:Ok,
Lets put it as it is.
I'm new to cycling (2Years) and yes snobbery exists. Its just as cars.
I used to be a snob in a car years back.
I had an M5 and looked down at "poor people" in bmws with "no engine's".
I was ok when i first started cycling with my halfords carrera mountain bike. But then i brought a Road bike, a Trek 1.7, which if i admit is low in the range. So then you have it in your head when I see another Trek on the road i say "B*stards got a Madone".
To be honest its only people with Road bikes, i think because of the costs, ranges, options, carbon, ali, the racing scene too.
The Trek's V's The "Poor People on other Bikes" competition thing too.
There are so many reasons but it exists and i think its roadies for sure.
As long as your happy with your bike thats all that matters, I even thought of upgrading to get out of the not having a "Madone" thing, but just be happy with what you have !!
trek?
trek!!!?
wouldnt p1ss on a trek!
load of yankee rubbish
As Sir Lance once said " If its not a Trek, Your a Gay !!!"0 -
stronginthesun wrote:there is nothing , and i mean nothing better , than trouncing a lardarse on a dreambike , when you are fully fit on your cheapy !!! ( oh apart from a shag of course )
There is...
Conducting a dawn raid on a gang member's house and scaring the bejeesus out of them is pretty good.
I'm slow on a fancy bike and get overtaken frequently. Especially when I'm recovering between intervals.0 -
I think it's a nice bike anyway and it's surely better than a lot of bikes out there, who cares what anyone else thinks?winter beast: http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr34 ... uff016.jpg
Summer beast; http://i497.photobucket.com/albums/rr34 ... uff015.jpg0 -
996JAT wrote:fast as fupp wrote:996JAT wrote:Ok,
Lets put it as it is.
I'm new to cycling (2Years) and yes snobbery exists. Its just as cars.
I used to be a snob in a car years back.
I had an M5 and looked down at "poor people" in bmws with "no engine's".
I was ok when i first started cycling with my halfords carrera mountain bike. But then i brought a Road bike, a Trek 1.7, which if i admit is low in the range. So then you have it in your head when I see another Trek on the road i say "B*stards got a Madone".
To be honest its only people with Road bikes, i think because of the costs, ranges, options, carbon, ali, the racing scene too.
The Trek's V's The "Poor People on other Bikes" competition thing too.
There are so many reasons but it exists and i think its roadies for sure.
As long as your happy with your bike thats all that matters, I even thought of upgrading to get out of the not having a "Madone" thing, but just be happy with what you have !!
trek?
trek!!!?
wouldnt p1ss on a trek!
load of yankee rubbish
As Sir Lance once said " If its not a Trek, Your a Gay !!!"
HELLO HONKY TONKS! HOW ARE YOU?'dont forget lads, one evertonian is worth twenty kopites'0 -
996JAT wrote:
As Sir Lance once said " If its not a Trek, Your a Gay !!!"
I must be a gay then - the wife's gonna be pi55ed when she finds out ! :shock:Carlsberg don't make cycle clothing, but if they did it would probably still not be as good as Assos0 -
Personally I couldn't care less what people think about my bike. There is snobbery in cycling as there is in anything,but that's not something to be concerned about, but yes it can hurt to degree.
I remember when I first started out, on a 40lb mountain bike. I joined a local cycling club and went out each weekend with them. The group I was with was purely beginners or just casual riders, we had a blast! One weekend I was informed of a time trial up a bloody steep road near where I live. So I signed up. Day comes around and I turn up, in my tatty cut off jeans, a 40lb Dawes and flat peddles and what I heard will stick with me forever - 'I hope I beat the moron on the crap Dawes!'.
As much as I wanted to beat the guy I knew I couldn't, but I tell you one thing I came 5th out of 15 people and that made up for all the mocking I got. It's not the bike, it's the rider and it's not something to get upset about. Get out, ride and be happy!
Oh and here's my bike. Tis me baby
http://www.youtube.com/user/Eurobunneh - My Youtube channel.0 -
'I hope I beat the moron on the crap Dawes!'.
Thats bang out of order, should have hit him !!0 -
OMG you're all such a bunch of women.
If someone takes the piss, take the piss back.
I should point out that I am not a bike snob, I'm a person snob. You can tell the experienced racers, regardless of what they're riding and they're all I'm concerned with.
I was susprised to see some bike snobs out on the Richmond sportive yesterday. I was riding unofficially in my best full team discovery kit and got a few looks by people on cervelos (why does everyone have a cervelo nowadays?). Anyway I spent most of the day overtaking people like that, and in the end I got a sub 6 hour time. So HA back at you."I hold it true, what'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost;
Than never to have loved at all."
Alfred Tennyson0 -
I weigh 100kg. All the carbon in the world is not going to make me accelerate better, climb faster, or descend safer.
Improved fitness and technique might. They are the matters where major improvements can be achieved. Buying performance enhancers are less certain and prone to disappointment.
The marginal improvements carried out so successfully by BC for the Olympic Team only work when the basic standard of the team matches the best elsewhere. A reasonable cyclist riding a postmans bike would beat me on any machine you may care to nominate.
As a Mr L A of Teaxas said it's not about the bike. So don't get wound up by those apparently treating you with insufficient respect (for whatever reason) and enjoy your cycling and enjoy the success it brings you. 8)
PS I'm saving up to buy a Carrera :oops:The older I get the faster I was0 -
there is nothing , and i mean nothing better , than trouncing a lardarse on a dreambike , when you are fully fit on your cheapy !!! ( oh apart from a shag of course )
yes, but:
a) he may not be "racing" or making any real effort as you blind side him unawares from behind having already built up a head of steam, churning in the big ring.
b) the fact remains that he's still got a much better and more expensive bike than you.
c) he's probably got a bigger dick than you as well.0 -
When I'm doing intervals on the back lanes there are times during the recovery phase where I'm going really slow and there are times during recovery rides when people overtake me when I'm bimbling about at about 15mph. Do they think "what the hell is he doing on a fancy pants bike with a powertap, going that slow?"
I'm not in the least arsed. Having a powertap has made my recovery rides effective because it tempers the effort I put in...
Does that mean that people that overtake me on a cheap halfords bike while I'm recovering are better than me?0 -
Take a stick out with you and throw it in their wheels as they ride past you....If you fail to prepare, you prepare to fail.
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Is that a Reynolds 853 tubing sticker on the OP's frame? That's a fairly unusual and interesting bike, and quality stuff. Assuming the plastic disk on the rear wheel has gone, the only reasonable target I can see for offensive snobbery is the positive rise stem.0
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Yes it is an 853 frame, and as with all Genesis bikes it is a pretty decent frame too. Shame it was discontinued for 2009 as I would have considered buying one as a winter/commute bike0
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I just wanted to bring this thread back to life so i could have a little rant and get something off my chest
at the moment I ride a modded mountain bike with road tyres and a 52, 46 double chain ring set as i am in the middle of building my race bike, so it would make sence that riders might look down at my bike
But its not the real riders that look down at me.
When im out on the road the people on their his and hers apolos all nod and smile but also the people on the £3k+ TT bikes also nod and smile.
It the BMW executive types on there entry level treks and specialized that look down on me and refuse to return my nod!!
I guess as the word SNOB suggests no nobility its the wanabe's not the real riders that think there above the rest!!!0 -
Fair point Acelliott but I'm a bike-tart wannabe and I never think I'm above the rest!0
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Being ignored, when on the mtb, has turned me into the same animal.
I can no longer be ar5ed to give a cheery wave/hello whatever bike I am riding.
I speak when I'm spoken toPowered by Haribo.0 -
The most fun I've ever had was shooting tellys and pc monitors in office blocks with an AK47, Kuwait city 1991, ahhhh..happy days...0
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I used to ride a Honda Varadero 125 with L plates.
I heard that riders nod to each other, so I bobbed my head at everyone on two wheels. However, nobody acknowledged me.
Recently I've been out on my new 800cc street bike and the nods have been coming in thick and fast. I feel welcomed into the community.
You see, someone is more likely to be perceived as a member of a community if they've put a bit of effort in. It could be the clothes, the bike or the speed but give someone a reason to see that you've tried will make it far easier to accept you.
Anyone can ride a 125 on L plates, but to pass your big bike test takes, time, a little skill and cash. If you put the effort in and you get the respect.
Sure it's snobby, but that's the way it is.0 -
These days, what you ride and wear is no indication of ability - many of the fancy-pants riders you see kitted-out head to foot in Assos/Rapha riding Cervelos are often just 'seen' to be cycling - dropped their gold card in Sigma Sport and want 'look at me!'.
I came to this conclusion on Sunday riding in Belgium - and the only real indication is by looking at their legs - if their legs aren't ripped and they have no calf definition, them I'm afraid they're either newbies or poseurs - come back with a few thousand miles in your legs and lets talk about it! BTW many people have commented on my 'scary' legs. I regularly got mocked about my eclectic bikes on club rides, but I have a reputation for making them suffer as a consequence...Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..0 -
djbarren wrote:Hate was maybe a strong word, do not understand them and their snobbery, here goes,
Look i dont think you should judge people based on there bike for goodness sakes its not the bike that makes the rider its the skill and ability of the rider that matters most.
I have come to the point where I hate going to local events (sportives etc ) and having people laugh and point at me just because I have a lesser known make of bike than theirs,(Genesis Equilibrium) (1100 notes new) I say let your riding do the talking. So wot if its not a Treck, Specialized, Pinarello, Giant etc etc
Some of us can not choose where we buy our bikes, esp if buying through the cycle to work scheme. Now that thats of my chest here is a pic of my steed wot do you guys think?
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I always smoke the scorners in their Team replica kit ha ha, wanna bees and never have beens ha ha
So people laugh at your £1100 bike? I doubt it - I haven't had that in all my years of cycling on bikes cheaper than yours. I would politely suggest that they are laughing at something else and probably don't care about your bike one way or the other.'Happiness serves hardly any other purpose than to make unhappiness possible' Marcel Proust.0 -
Monty Dog wrote:I came to this conclusion on Sunday riding in Belgium - and the only real indication is by looking at their legs - if their legs aren't ripped and they have no calf definition, them I'm afraid they're either newbies or poseurs - come back with a few thousand miles in your legs and lets talk about it! BTW many people have commented on my 'scary' legs. I regularly got mocked about my eclectic bikes on club rides, but I have a reputation for making them suffer as a consequence...
But then there's the reverse phenomenon Monty - 38-45 year old gym-rat type blokes with big muscular legs all over (got money, got the bike, got the job, got the lifestyle, look like they ride once a week at most) - if they can't keep 26 mph on the flat for 5 or 6 minutes they get dropped (around my way) - and pretty much always, they can't (assuming they're trying?). So, we can't always go with leg muscularity. But then again, I'm probably refering to the fancy-pants poseurs (just the gym-going version)0 -
Stone Glider wrote:A reasonable cyclist riding a postmans bike would beat me on any machine you may care to nominate.0
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Obree on a unicycle would beat me on a De Rosa.....0
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Funny, the snobbery thing was my first experience when joining a club as a kid... but its always gonna be there to some degree... ya just gotta do your thing and ignore them...0