Hit a car(Any advice please)

Arsesix

I had my first crash today after years of cycling.. Basically a guy a couple of car lengths ahead was indicating left and not knowing the area turned into a one way and then realising his mistake turned back out by this time I'm on the junction and hits his rear offside falling of into the middle of the road.After receiving the usual blame from the guy even though it was a one way we went to the police station once I had two addresses from witnesses and gave statements.The police lady said they would take the statements from all parties and then go from there.Could any one tell me what the procedure normally is a I now have a smashed useless Garmin forerunner which I cant really afford to replace...
Thanks in advance.
Stephen[/list]

gavintc

Speak to BC or CTC and get their lawyers onto the case. If you have not joined, you may be able to join as you make your request for help.

Anonymous

Just to clarify, he started to turn in, you carried on as if to overtake, and he pulled back out and hit you? I'm trying to get a mental picture...

The police will investigate the accident, put together a file and see whether it is in the public interest to prosecute anyone. Anything else will be down to insurance companies.

Who do you feel was responsible for the cause of the collision?

STEFANOS4784

gavintc wrote:

Speak to BC or CTC and get their lawyers onto the case. If you have not joined, you may be able to join as you make your request for help.

+!, despite his angry remark ignore that! It was his fault, having said that depends on how much you can't afford it because it'll be a long old time before you get anything IME

STEFANOS4784

NapoleonD wrote:

Who do you feel was responsible for the cause of the collision?

Are you in the police or what? It's clear IMO who who s/he thinks is to blame .(It's clear in the OP's original post)

Anonymous

Thanks Stefanos. It isn't clear what happened IMO.

Anonymous

STEFANOS4784 wrote:

NapoleonD wrote:

Who do you feel was responsible for the cause of the collision?

Are you in the police or what? It's clear IMO who who s/he thinks is to blame .(It's clear in the OP's original post)

What's that supposed to mean?

Arsesix

NapoleonD wrote:

Just to clarify, he started to turn in, you carried on as if to overtake, and he pulled back out and hit you? I'm trying to get a mental picture...

The police will investigate the accident, put together a file and see whether it is in the public interest to prosecute anyone. Anything else will be down to insurance companies.

Who do you feel was responsible for the cause of the collision?

He went into the junction but as he noticed the taxi coming towards him he turned back out into my path,I braked and tried to go around him but hit the rear offside and went over the bars.If the taxi wasn't coming towards him he would be gone and I would of gone past no problem.He was giving me the usual "you hit the back of me so its your fault"
To be honest its shook me up I have been driving for 30 yrs in cars and on motorbikes and have done police roadcraft,I always have my 2 cateye lights on even during the day and wear high vis stuff,but people look straight through you...

STEFANOS4784

NapoleonD wrote:

STEFANOS4784 wrote:

NapoleonD wrote:

Who do you feel was responsible for the cause of the collision?

Are you in the police or what? It's clear IMO who who s/he thinks is to blame .(It's clear in the OP's original post)

What's that supposed to mean?

Sorry guv', no offence


Sorry but i'm not a fan of the police, bad people seem to get away with whatever they want, yet people who have made a mistake seem to get the wrath of the law, just to feed some guy's power trip :?


(yes i know, uh-oh )

Anonymous

That's right. No good is ever done for anyone. In 12 years I've not helped a single person. (I can't believe I'm responding with sarcasm but hey-ho.)

Will Snow

its true, the police are very fair. they dont just beat up foreign people anymore, theyre quite happy to beat up white people as well!! look at the g20 protests!!


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Anonymous

This is no help for the original poster...

Sorry to have posted and caused it to go off topic.

STEFANOS4784

Edit: Off topic (for the record i edited this before the post below, the police, obviously do a loty of good and we'd be in a right mess with-out them :oops:

JakeWC

NapoleonD just ignore the usual ill considered and ill informed rubbish about the police all being evil fascists who are only on personal power trips. It's complete t*ss.

Back to the point of the post - if he is reversing back on to a main road (it doesn't matter if he should have been turning down the side road or not really) then he would ordinarily be deemed at fault and you would be entitled to claim against his insurers. The courts usually find whoever is carrying out the manouever as the liable party. He should have supplied you with his insurance details and the reg of his car in order that you can start a claim.

STEFANOS4784

OP, you are in the right, any other damage done? Hopefuly not, but if so a quick call to a no win no fee solicitor will sort out what will happen

Anonymous

You should be able to get the Insurance details from the officer or the accident clerk at the station.

The Insurance company will likely fight anything stating that you went in to him, even though he was being a kn*b. Just to forewarn you...

It would really help matters for you if the police decide that the taxi guy caused it!

Nick6891

just cos you went into back of him doesnt make it your fault, thats like saying you can reverse your car into someone behind you and its the persons behind you fault

its his fault and i dont see how you could get blamed for it if you have witnesses, also read this...
https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q390.htm

Anonymous

Unfortuately as soon as you mention 'gone in to the back of someone' most insurance companies, in my experience, put their fingers in their ears, close their eyes and shout LALALALALALALAL...

Hopefully the police investigation together with the witness statements will sort this.

STEFANOS4784

NapoleonD wrote:

Unfortuately as soon as you mention 'gone in to the back of someone' most insurance companies, in my experience, put their fingers in their ears, close their eyes and shout LALALALALALALAL...

Hopefully the police investigation together with the witness statements will sort this.

+1 DO NOT SAY "i went up the back of him".

He reversed into you after taking a wrong turn up a one way street as you were travelling as you would normally.

2008 epic

Where are you based? i know a very good solicitor who could help.

Steveen

If anyone ever needs a crash investigation done to the best possible standard go to an outfit called "User Perspective Ltd". You should find them on the web.

I dont work for them but they did some stuff for my company and they were brilliant. Think they did some stuff on that crash in that tunnel in Paris a few years ago.

I put a motorcyclist who crashed outside my house onto them some time back and he was able to show that the car driver was at fault.

zedders

NapoleonD wrote:

Unfortuately as soon as you mention 'gone in to the back of someone' most insurance companies, in my experience, put their fingers in their ears, close their eyes and shout LALALALALALALAL...

+1.
A few months ago I was in a muti story car park, and waiting for a BMW in front of me. I was about 15 yards behind him and completely stationary. The BMW started to reverse back to allow a car in front room of him to reverse out of a spot I sounded my horn, and in slow motion - bang straight into me. He was 'sorry' and stuff but upon seeing his claim form (supplied to me by my insurance) he completely lied and said I drove into him, and that he was stationary!!! I'm still fuming about it. Its still not sorted and my insurance say his insurance are offering 50/50!
As for the Police IMO maybe if the "Courts" started issuing some proper lenghty custodial sentences to scumbags who deserve it, with previous as long as your arm, then the Police wouldn't be forever chasing their tails dealing with the same scumbags day in day out, and could provide a better service to all as they would have a bit more time? This is just one reason why sometimes the Police get a bad rap when its not always their fault.
As for the OP am just glad you have some witnesses. I would suggest getting some legal advice and pursuing your own claim. If convicted of anything the "Courts" don't normally issue much compensation to the victim.

Anonymous

zedders wrote:

NapoleonD wrote:

Unfortuately as soon as you mention 'gone in to the back of someone' most insurance companies, in my experience, put their fingers in their ears, close their eyes and shout LALALALALALALAL...

+1.
A few months ago I was in a muti story car park, and waiting for a BMW in front of me. I was about 15 yards behind him and completely stationary. The BMW started to reverse back to allow a car in front room of him to reverse out of a spot I sounded my horn, and in slow motion - bang straight into me. He was 'sorry' and stuff but upon seeing his claim form (supplied to me by my insurance) he completely lied and said I drove into him, and that he was stationary!!! I'm still fuming about it. Its still not sorted and my insurance say his insurance are offering 50/50!
As for the Police IMO maybe if the "Courts" started issuing some proper lenghty custodial sentences to scumbags who deserve it, with previous as long as your arm, then the Police wouldn't be forever chasing their tails dealing with the same scumbags day in day out, and could provide a better service to all as they would have a bit more time? This is just one reason why sometimes the Police get a bad rap when its not always their fault.
As for the OP am just glad you have some witnesses. I would suggest getting some legal advice and pursuing your own claim. If convicted of anything the "Courts" don't normally issue much compensation to the victim.

Ohhhhhh yes!

Arsesix

Sorry I may have not explained myself correctly as I'm still bit shaken.
The guy was not reversing out, the road he turned into has 2 wide exits,he turned in and then gave it full lock and came straight out in front of me,leaving now way of evasive action other than braking by which time I had hit him. I don't really want to go down the no win no fee route I just cant afford a new Garmin.
Thanks for all your replies..
Stephen.

sylvestermorgan

Well, as you say, it is now a police matter anyway so you'll have to see it through as I assume the car driver will try to claim against you. The fact that you have witnesses is great, it will make the job of the police rather easier. My guess is that if you make a song and dance about it the police may attempt to prosecute the driver for driving without due care and attention (or something like). That opens up the possibility of a claim against his insurance company. My tuppence worth but others may know better than me!

Anonymous

In that case it is very much his fault. The cops should do their bit, you should, IMO put in a claim for your garmin with his insurance company. If your bike has carbon components then they may all need replacing too, you can't tell just looking at the surface.

sylvestermorgan

NapoleonD wrote:

In that case it is very much his fault. The cops should do their bit, you should, IMO put in a claim for your garmin with his insurance company. If your bike has carbon components then they may all need replacing too, you can't tell just looking at the surface.

Agreed, don't do things by halves, go to your LBS and ask them to thoroughly inspect it (keeping the receipt) and get them to list all the required repairs. Submit that to the insurance company and see what they say. I would ordinarily suggest to go on and get the bike repaired whilst you are waiting, however the insurance company might kick up a stink about not being allowed to inspect it (if an insurance company can get out of paying something, they will).

markos1963

A few years ago I went to overtake a car whilst riding a motorbike, I had lights on and indicated, as I went to go past she pulled out to overtake the car in front without indicating. i had nowhere to go and crashed into the back of her. Now, according to some of you I went into the back of her so i must have been at fault, well no i wasn't, my insurance company defended my case and the claim was settled in my favour. So you see, don't assume things just because you hear them talked about over the bar in the pub.
He is totally at fault, whilst reversing he has given up any right of way. He has already committed an offense by turning into a one way street. Get some good professional advise and don't be afraid to talk to the police to see whats going on with the case.

juankerr

Does your neck hurt? Do you have whiplash? Just a thought... might want to get it checked out in hospital.

CiB

A colleague once had a bump. A car pulled out of a side road onto a dual c/way, another car approaching in the left lane moved into the right lane to avoid hitting it but wasn't going as fast as traffic on the r/h lane. M'colleague who was approaching all this in the r/h lane didn't have time to lose her speed and hit the back of the car that had just moved over. The driver at fault who had pulled out did a runner, probably clocked it all in his mirror. The driver of the car that my colleague hit - or at least her insurers - accepted full responsibility. Running into someone's boot isn't always a cut & dried case.

Re this case that's a complete irrelevance. The driver has committed at least two offences, by entering a one-way street illegally, and pulling out without due care & attention. I don't see how he can have any getout in the situation as described.

Infamous

NapoleonD wrote:

Ohhhhhh yes!

I am a fan of Police, they do a tough job. And considering the only qualifications needed to join are "being over 6 foot" and "the ability to say hello 3 times in quick succession", they almost always do the job well.