Rant at mech hangers

supersonic

Not the design, I think they are essential, but the bloody prices! Some charge £30 for a piece of stamped aluminium! About 10 pence worth. Now:

1) Stop ripping us off

2) Come up with a IS or 2 or 3 designs to fit all bikes so every shop can stock them.

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pdid

Agree 1000%, said on a few threads before.

They are a complete rip-off. My Commencal ones are £20 a throw. If you have the privilege of owning the maxle then your looking at £35 with the current exchange rates.

Ridiculous

fred1star

Too right.... just had to fork out £17 for one for my santa cruz... only had the bike a few weeks before it broke. Was not doing anything too extreme either.

Kiwi Kranker

Cant agree more!

I once made the mistake of asking what it would cost for a spare for my Scott.

I believe my reply to the cost was 'Do you offer finance or a payment scheme?'

Bordering on a complete joke. :shock:

motherhucker

+1

I thought i got a sore deal until my mate was looking at £20 for one :shock: I had a Planet X at the time so finding one to fit was a bloody nightmare, went direct through the manufacturer in the end once they got their website sorted :evil: Wasn't too bad at £25 for 2 but still for something that can be knocked up in my lunch break in the tool room at work makes me cringe

fatblokefromwarwick

Blimey, them prices are abit mad! :shock:

9 quid for a 575 hanger, so have one in my Hydrapak and one in my home toolkit. They look cool too,

Raymondavalon

£15 a piece for the Felt and Kona
Not a train smash cost wise, but certainly an overkill price for a piece of stamped metal

P-Jay

£30 eh? my Heart bleeds.....

Some retard of a bike mech striped and bent mine last year.

That'll be £60 to you sir..

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=22575

whydoesitalwaysrainonme

I know it's pathetic especially when there'e only one importer of the brand, i ordered a focus mech hanger for my mountain bike on the 25th February and still has not even arrived, not even dispatched yet i have emailed wiggle and they have said they will chase it up, very very annoyed just lucky i have two MTBs really.

Chaz.Harding

P-Jay

Might be worth checking out BETD.

Also, your local engineering firms / cnc guys??

It would take them literally 5 mins to machine one out of alloy / steel. Especially if you already have one.

So simple. Will not be paying 20 quid for mine!!

A few beers for the guys who machine it for me. Even in Ti (local engineering company does titainium steam turbine bits and bats )

ratty2k

I agree, but it'll never happen! Its always the bits that never sell too many that get expensive... And that goes for any parts,- little (size of a 50p peice) rubber gaiters on my old Hilux- £15 each and you had to buy the two... All kinds of little components whether its cars, bikes or vacuum pumps and equipment- they have their own little niche market and you need the part.... Unfortunate, but its a case of bite the bullet. :evil:

Chaz.Harding

But why? If you can get the same / superior product made, then you shouldn't have to.

I know the small bits can be 10x what you expect, but it's not what you know, but who.

All the little (expensive(in relative terms)) peices on my bikes will either be made, bought through work (alloy and ti nuts and bolts) or aquired some other how.

I simply refuse to pay that sort of money for the actuall tiny, cheap product.

:evil: :evil: :evil:

Sorry guys, rant over

lm_trek

A mate paid £25 at Cannock the other week when we had a mechanical, a big rip off!!

ratty2k

Exactly, got yer by the balls and squeezing tight. No big manufacturer is going to join with another to make standard parts like that... Got the Marins (and others) with the interchangeable maxle systems, lots with slidy dropouts... to many to make a standard one anyway IMO. Steel frames (&Ti) that dont have removable ones.... to many designs out there....

Chaz.Harding

Yup. Like I was saying though, there are companies who do alot of them, for a rather large discount price!

Like BETD as one example. There are more, but I can't be arsed to google it

supersonic

I think standard rear dropout frames can come up with a standard.

I shall be having a word with my brother, he might be able to make me what I need.

Chaz.Harding

'sonic, tis the way forward 8)

The material cost (unless it's something fancy) is so low it's almost a joke. And there really isn't that much machining to do either.

How do the buggers getaway with it. It's not even that much of a precision part!! (Like brake master / slave cylinders etc)

ratty2k

There is always a way round it.. Made bits in the past myself, get my Dad to do it, now he's retired and got more time... Used to get work to er, supply materials. But thats gone now I'm redundant...

supersonic

Do they even have to be alu? I bet a composite would work.

ratty2k

Anything, brass, ally mild steel. Might be a bit too tough tho... Have to machine some safety margin so it will fail before the dropout... Bit of guesswork for us without laptops and finite analysis....

allthegearnoidea

i was lucky with mine, managed to get a pair of them from america early - mid last year when the exchange rate was good, cost me £11 for the pair delivered,

i had a stumbling block when i got the frame, it didnt have one and i couldnt see it at the normal places, so got some 5mm chequer plate from a neighbour who 'found' a Big sheet of it in a skip, and using some persepx made a template of the frame end and then used the bottom part of the hanger on my old frame for the shape, then pain stakingly cut one out of the plate with the dremmel and the grinder! got it really close to the proper one too by some luck!!
but recently looking for a spare for the other frame has seent hem up around the £25 mark again! is just plain silly!
betd helped a lot with identification as its an unbranded frame but still silly money,

am going to look into the local cnc places though! thanks for the ideas!!

Chaz.Harding

allthegearnoidea, it makes more sense. If they can knock a few out for you - couple sets, why not?

If you break 'em, you'll still have spares!!

stevieboy

So glad I got my hands on 2 Scott one's for £15 last year, total bargain compared to now.

Agreed though, an IS is required.

beardwithabike

At least you lot can get hold of them!! Ive got an '04 Trek Diesel and noone has them, not even TREK!! And BETD say it will be over £100 to make ONE!! Gunna get one made myself. Bodge it up. Unless anyone has a few? haha

Airienteer

pdid wrote:

They are a complete rip-off. My Commencal ones are £20 a throw. If you have the privilege of owning the maxle then your looking at £35 with the current exchange rates.
Ridiculous

Really? When I snapped my Commie hanger I got a replacement for £5 at my lbs.

welshkev

agree 100% i was supposed to be racing at bristol bikefest today but crashed at cwmcarn on tuesday night and ripped my mech off the hanger and bent it. shop had to order in the part that'll take 5-10 days to get in. haven't raced today!!!! gutted.

kev

Northwind

Getting some made up by a machinist isn't a bad idea... But people are talking about machine time and material costs, the time consuming part is going to be setup and design, not the actual production, so do bear that in mind. I could easily enough machine a hanger from cheap ally sheet but tbh it wouldn't be worth my time, they're fiddly shapes and need to be pretty exact to work perfectly- including headscratching and drinking coffee it'd take a couple of hours to do one that looked quality, just not worth the hassle.

supersonic wrote:

I think standard rear dropout frames can come up with a standard.

I know bike manufacturers are allergic to standards but seriously, how is it even possible that there are so many dropout designs with such trivial differences between many of them?utter madness.

Banned!

mine are £15 a throw. for what is a piece of cheap bubbly alloy this is outrageous, but as they are almost always make or model specific they have us over a barrel. theyre the only part on your bike that you cannot change.

GHill

I'm considering buying a spare, just in case I break one 5 years down the line when I can't get one from Trek.

Price is ridiculous though.

Northwind

It's good to have a spare anyway, stick it in your tools along with your patches and that- they're designed to break, remember, so there's a fair chance it will some day.

beardwithabike

well im in talks with Trek to get something sorted. What im trying to say to them though is that if they have a lifetime warranty on a cracked frame, why not this too? It sounds stupid but when you think about it my frame would be useless cracked ... but its useless without a mech hanger ... so either way i cant ride the thing. So a new frame please? I would pay trade for one if that helped. It just seems stupid chcking the frame when theres nothing wrong with it, just the crappy mech hanger isnt made anymore