Whats the appeal with rear Hope Hubs?

speedwing
speedwing Posts: 12
edited April 2009 in MTB buying advice
Hi don't shoot me down, but what's appeal with having a Hope rear hub that makes a really loud clicking noise when free wheeling.

For me I love nothing more than to free wheel through a forest / wood with only the sound of my lungs trying to get the oxygen back into my body.

Can anyone enlighten me or push me to thinking that it's the way to go.

Cheers Paul :roll:
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  • speedwing wrote:
    Hi don't shoot me down, but what's appeal with having a Hope rear hub that makes a really loud clicking noise when free wheeling.

    For me I love nothing more than to free wheel through a forest / wood with only the sound of my lungs trying to get the oxygen back into my body.

    Can anyone enlighten me or push me to thinking that it's the way to go.

    Cheers Paul :roll:
    +1
    Those 3 arm rotor hubs with Stans rims look really good. But the noise would drive me mad, I just don't see the appeal?
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  • GHill
    GHill Posts: 2,402
    Just a matter of taste, some people really like the noise, others can't stand it.

    A bit like white components I suppose... :twisted:
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
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    Was trying to find your video!! :lol:
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    i had one on a bike before and the engineer in me thinks the sound is cheap. ive no issue with loud hubs, those halos sound pretty good, but the hope ones sound like a bag of parts falling down th stairs. i much prefer the more uniform sound of a softer click like that on a dt hub, whatever hub is on my rovals is absolutely amazing, sounds like pure swiss precision.
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
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    I agree on the Pro 2's sounding like poo, but the older hopes sounded class.
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  • Andy B
    Andy B Posts: 8,115
    my ProII hubs came on the bike, the noise doesn't bother me, would probably have bought a pair anyway if it didn't come with them on as std

    also had Hope XC hubs, which aren't as loud, but have a better freehub material than the ProII

    that super drive hub sounds awesome
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    i wanna see what superstarcomponent super leggera hubs sound like, they have 120 point engagement so should buzz along quite nicely!!
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    same as the supa drive.

    bet it comes from the same place.
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    was just looking at the halo webby out of interest, i wouldnt be suprise in the slightest if there is a bit of product cross over there.

    have you heard the chris king rear hub? lordy thats a loud thing, but atleast it sounds like a precision engineered bit of kit, not just a load of pawls operating at random intervals like the pro 2s
  • yoohoo999
    yoohoo999 Posts: 940
    mine don't sound that loud at all.

    also reminds me that i could always be going faster whenever i hear it!
  • gcwebbyuk
    gcwebbyuk Posts: 1,926
    I was worried about it when ordering my SPXC3s - thought I would get annoyed with the sound, but now I actually really like it!

    Plus it only sounds when you aren't pedalling. Its a great way of getting people's attention on a mixed bridleway/footpath rather than use a bell!
  • ratty2k
    ratty2k Posts: 3,872
    I never notice mine, all the clattering off rocks and stone etc flying up soon overpowers the hub sounds.
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  • gpsBRM
    gpsBRM Posts: 123
    I've got a hope Pro 2 (gunsmoke to match the brakes) on my Epic and it is really loud, much more than the Hope Pro I have on my hardtail. Doesn't bother me though as it just means people can hear you coming, so you don't startle horses/walkers etc. Plus other MTBers realise your behind them and move over :D
  • stevieboy
    stevieboy Posts: 704
    I didnt buy my wheels for the noise but it does have the benefit, as others have said, of making yourself heard. Quite handy when i'm training so that people hear me coming up behind them without me having to shout at them to move.
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  • Surf-Matt
    Surf-Matt Posts: 5,952
    Not keen on the noise either. Noise says "inefficiency" to me.
  • junglist_matty
    junglist_matty Posts: 1,731
    Yeah, BUT... the question is not answered, has turned into a do you like the noise or not thread!

    ...What causes the noise to occur? ...Is it a marketing ploy or is there actually a reason why some hubs are very noisy?
  • stevieboy
    stevieboy Posts: 704
    Only when you stop pedalling, but yeah you're right. If I spin my gf's shimano/sun next to my hope/stans wheel, mine stops a fair bit sooner.
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  • pdid
    pdid Posts: 1,065
    I like the sound when I'm ploughing downhill and it's whirring away. As others have said it makes your presence known to other trail users.

    It does however become tedious on a hike a bike.

    Plus they are good hubs, reasonably priced, look sexy, easy to service and can be converted to numerous axle sizes easily.
  • So the noise makes them less efficient at freewheeling and the only real benefit is the pretty noise?
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    i definately noticed that the hope hub ground to a halt quicker than the dt hubs it replaced.
  • .blitz
    .blitz Posts: 6,197
    speedwing wrote:
    Hi don't shoot me down, but what's appeal with having a Hope rear hub that makes a really loud clicking noise when free wheeling.
    Silence is golden. I've noticed an increase in the number of people on MTBs that start freewheeling as they approach me just so I can hear their clicky hub. Sad b*stards :)
  • i definately noticed that the hope hub ground to a halt quicker than the dt hubs it replaced.

    Just did a quick comparison on my DT swiss hubbed wheel next to my Halo Supa Drive. Negligible difference in stopping and the Halo makes some noise I can tell you!!
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  • stevieboy
    stevieboy Posts: 704
    So the noise makes them less efficient at freewheeling and the only real benefit is the pretty noise?

    If this hub is bought for just the noise then people must be deluded

    I see the main benefits as follows (in order):

    Strength
    Bearing quality
    Weight
    Adaptability i.e 20mm, bolt through etc etc
    Customer Service from Hope
    Colour
    Noise
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  • ratty2k
    ratty2k Posts: 3,872
    So the noise makes them less efficient at freewheeling and the only real benefit is the pretty noise?

    No, bought because its a tough hub, easily servicable, top notch customer service from Hope themselves. Not less efficient at all, mine spins nice and for a long time- its just the ratchet pawls engaging, there are a few hubs (like nicks) and I have a White Ind. on my SS that sound like a swarm of bees....
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  • fred1star
    fred1star Posts: 428
    This was one of my only concerns when buying my new bike, however I have soon got over it. I really don't notice it above the general mayham that follows in my wake, the noise of sheep, humans running for cover.

    The clicking is great at letting people, fellow riders and walkers infront know your coming. I ride quite a bit around horse riders and they know your coming from a long way off and are prepared for you rather that coming up behind and dinging on you bell and shi@ting the horse half to death along with the rider.

    I admit they probably wont appeal to some but the build quality has won me over.
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  • ride_whenever
    ride_whenever Posts: 13,279
    My pro II spins for ages...


    If yours are stoppping soon then check the seal round the freehub is in place properly. I like the noise when out for fitness rides, encourages me not to coast.
  • No I meant the only benefit of the noise not the hub itself.

    So the benefit is that people hear you coming vs the downside of it being quite annoying and possibly less efficient?

    Could always use a lolly stock in the spokes? Be a lot cheaper and makes a sound like a motor bike if done correctly :wink:

    So do manufacturers actually seek to make their hubs noisy on purpose? And if so, for what purpose? Or is it just a byproduct of superior engineering or a certain construction?
  • projectsome
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    I'm so gonna get me some on my next bike. chances are it'll come with some standard hubs. quite like the sound of the chris kings
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