Conti GP 4000 and Conti 4 Seasons?

cjcp
cjcp Posts: 13,345
edited April 2009 in Commuting chat
Ok kids, I know I should search the forum for any previous reviews, but I've not got the time at the moment, so need some input before I place an order later today.

I need tyres for Flanders next week. I'm erring towards 4 Seasons at the moment because they should do the job for the commute.

Does anyone have any experience, good or bad, of the 4 Seasons for the commute?

Alternatively, I may opt for the GP 4000 tyre because it's supposedly a bit racier, whether for other sportives or for the odd race. Anyone got any experience of these?

Cheers in advance.
FCN 2-4.

"What happens when the hammer goes down, kids?"
"It stays down, Daddy."
"Exactly."

Comments

  • cougie
    cougie Posts: 22,512
    Not used the 4 seasons, but the Conti GP 4000s are great tyres, fast and strong.
  • graeme_s-2
    graeme_s-2 Posts: 3,382
    I run 23C 4 Seasons on my road bike (used for commuting in fair weather) and 25C Gatorskins on my fixie. The 4 Seasons are noticeably zippier and more confidence inspiring than the Gatorskins. Haven't had any problems with visits from the p-fairy (touch wood).

    I haven't tried any racier tyres, so I can't compare them to those I'm afraid!
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    I have a 4 season on the back and a GP 4000s on the front. I've got my own cheaper Conti Attack/Force thing going on.....

    Having gone through two GP4000s on the rear tyre (no fault of the tyre) I opted for something harder wearing. The 4 seasons are thicker, heavier and feel slower. BUT that's in comparision to the GP4000s, which are fantastic it's like comparing a Audi S4 (the GP4000s) to the Audi A4 (4 seasons) both fantastic for different reasons.

    To be honest I have no complaints with either. It depends on what you want and they do what they say on the box perfectly. The GP4000s are a faster tyre (accelration, rolling resistance) than the 4 seasons. The 4 seasons offer more puncture protection. They both provide astonishing levels of grip, my only concern with corners or riding in the wet is my ability to take the corner/stay upright and not the grip provided by the tyre.

    I can't stop singing the praises of either tyre. Bottom line?

    Sportive and races - GP4000s
    Commuting on crap roads - 4 seasons

    (I would do a sportive on the 4 seasons and I would/have commuted happily on the 4000s)
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  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    I've got an even cheaper Attack/Force variant of 4 Seasons front and gator rear. Very few unscheduled deflations with the combo. The 4 seasons front is over a year old and still looking ok bar a few nicks. I've got GP4000 tyres (no s) on the Scott and they're pretty good, too. Survived HOTA and alpine roads but would be concerned about longevity for the commute.
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  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    GP4000S - before I got the Touche I commuted and trained all year round on GP400s and then GP4000S. The S are quite simply awesome tires, punc resistant, grippy and fast.
  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    Thanks, chaps. :)
    FCN 2-4.

    "What happens when the hammer goes down, kids?"
    "It stays down, Daddy."
    "Exactly."
  • Petromyzon
    Petromyzon Posts: 221
    I've got 25 mm 4 seasons on my road bike at the mo and feel confident, comfortable and reasonably quick on them. No p******e yet in 1200 km ish since xmas. Had them on the fixie for the commute for a little bit and liked them. Apparently 25s are good for Flanders pave. I've not got a lot to compare them to but I would definitely buy them again.
  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    Took a bit of a punt and went for the GP4000S. You're right, the 25mm are a bit more comfortable for the pave, but I used 23mm a couple of years back and will persist with the Gatorskins for the commute, and the need for a racier tyre won through.:-)

    Thanks, chaps.
    FCN 2-4.

    "What happens when the hammer goes down, kids?"
    "It stays down, Daddy."
    "Exactly."
  • fossyant
    fossyant Posts: 2,549
    I'm going 4s rather than Gators on my new fixie commuter.... rather have Mich Pro Race 3's...but far too nice for commute duties.... Gators are supposed to be a bit slippy in wet..... dunno..I'm a mich rider here...
  • Petromyzon
    Petromyzon Posts: 221
    I think Gators are supposed to be more hard wearing but less grippy than 4 seasons. My 4 seasons are great but I could very definitely see the difference between front and rear after 1000km so I swapped them front to back. You pays your money and you takes your choice, but I'd rather a pricier but more secure ride myself.
  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    A quick update for anyone who's interested:

    As Jash said, the GP 4000S are fab. I began questioning my tyre choice when most others were riding 25mm and Vittorias, but I pumped them to 95psi and all was good. Great grip round the corners - I was really chucking the bike round the corners - and they certainly seem to have more zip than Gatorskins.
    FCN 2-4.

    "What happens when the hammer goes down, kids?"
    "It stays down, Daddy."
    "Exactly."
  • dazzawazza
    dazzawazza Posts: 462
    Another tyre to consider is Michelin Krylion Carbons. You can get them from Chainreactioncycles.