Elitism
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Christophe3967 wrote:biondino wrote:passout wrote:What's wrong with Eltism anyway? It's better than Communism: all riding aroundon dull, poorly made ,heavy bikes....it would be like a trip to Halfords. Perish the thought.
Everyone would have the same FCN, and scalping would be outlawed as repression of the proletariat.
Except our dear comrades the Politburo, who would all ride Pinarellos, Viners, and Cervellos on specially reserved, freshly tarmaced lanes.
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Yes, that sounds good. Roads could reflect society with a crowded & roughly hewn inside lane for the Prole cyclists, a Bourgeois middle lane and the smooth outside lane for the likes of me. In this society there is a social underclass (below Proles) but they are not allowed to be closer than 5 metres to any bicycle in a bid to cut down on theft. They have to walk across the muddy fields.
While we're on the subject, I've often thought that cyclists with steel single speeds are probably socialist up starts or perhaps champagne socialists? What do you think?'Happiness serves hardly any other purpose than to make unhappiness possible' Marcel Proust.0 -
jashburnham wrote:Christophe3967 wrote:biondino wrote:passout wrote:What's wrong with Eltism anyway? It's better than Communism: all riding aroundon dull, poorly made ,heavy bikes....it would be like a trip to Halfords. Perish the thought.
Everyone would have the same FCN, and scalping would be outlawed as repression of the proletariat.
Except our dear comrades the Politburo, who would all ride Pinarellos, Viners, and Cervellos on specially reserved, freshly tarmaced lanes.
I like this idea. Out of my way Proles! mmmm this tarmac is smoooooth.
Nothing wrong with elitism - if there is no elite there is no incentive to raise your standards - however some of us are happy with our current standards and occasionally scalping the slightly more elite
And where does the idea that all hybrids are dull and heavy come from ? Mine is fast as a very fast thing and tough as a very tough thing 8)0 -
Yes but it's hard to love a hybrid in the same way that you might love a 'racer' or an MTB - bikes with a certain 'purity'. They are not objects of desire - just a form a transport (sounds a bit Communist to me).'Happiness serves hardly any other purpose than to make unhappiness possible' Marcel Proust.0
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Is it too late to comment that all cyclo-crossers are perverts?
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don_don wrote:Is it too late to comment that all cyclo-crossers are perverts?
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Thanks K_B
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You're right....I've got a cross bike. :oops:'Happiness serves hardly any other purpose than to make unhappiness possible' Marcel Proust.0
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Please note the new last line in my signature. 8) and proud!Chunky Cyclists need your love too! :-)
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I have no clue what this is about! If it is Hybrid Vs drop road bike - I "outgrew" my Sports hybrid and went drop bar all the way - quicker bike and a bigger chainset - as I was an awful lot fitter.
As for elitism.....I am sure that as experience, knowledge and physical attributes in any field is gathered - the ego and the snobbery will come too!
Why do people buy big powerful cars? Why do people buy vintage guitars and amplifiers that cost a fortune? Elitism comes in many forms, but is usually derived from experience and knowledge.....
*I might be full of sh1t*!!!!!0 -
passout wrote:I've often thought that cyclists with steel single speeds are probably socialist up starts or perhaps champagne socialists? What do you think?
We reject your narrow classifications and prejudices!
We are the true inheritors of the Bohemian ideal (but with a LOT less free love), velvet revolution and renaissance. We have shed the capitalist shackles of the derailler (which I don't know how to spell - so much is my disdain for it) the cogs are emblematic of the system that crushes individuality and expression and we will have none of it.
Unless of course this impacts the following "sacred zones" of fixed riding
1. You must trackstand, all the time, at the front of the herd, so they can all see you.
2. Your chain line must be so tight that the pins squeak unless lubed up to dripping point
3. Lubed up to dripping point (just like the way it makes me feel as I type)
4. Your chain ring cannot be as standard from the donor bike, it must be at least 4T bigger
5. You think that 130 RPM is quite a reasonable churn rate and not at all too silly
6. You'd wear a little bike cap if your Mrs would let you.
Apart from all of the above and a fairly long list concerning 3/4 length tights / shorts / acceptable brands of jersey / shades and associated kit, Brookes saddles, Phil woods high flange hubs (I got 'em - shiny - worship me you DOGS) and other things - we are highly iconoclastic and "different".
Champagne - pah - unless it's something that will impress people as I drink it - in fairness I couldn't tell freixnet from Bolly it I was blindfolded - if I were blindfolded I'd rather hoped to have moved on from the drinking stage anyway.Fixed gear for wet weather / hairy roadie for posing in the sun.
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chuckcork wrote:DonDaddyD wrote:If I was shaved I'd have to take up the oldest profession.
Um, you'd become a midwife?
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No, architectpain is temporary, the glory of beating your mates to the top of the hill lasts forever.....................
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biondino wrote:I love you, Greg T (and I also have high flange Phil Wood hubs! We're made for each other!)
I'd suggest that we get down to the nasty, however I know that your Avatar is in fact not a completely true representation of what you look like, but a very good representation of how you are....
Given that I'm an appearance driven whore I'll pass on your offer as rough gay hell dog rumpy isn't doing it for me.
Borrow Linsen's Avatar of Imogen Stubbs however and we have a deal.Fixed gear for wet weather / hairy roadie for posing in the sun.
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biondino wrote:I love you, Greg T (and I also have high flange Phil Wood hubs! We're made for each other!)
But surely, although a thing of beauty, the Vigorelli's not a steel bike? Does that not therefore make you bourgeois?
Now, I would really love a steel Colnago if I won the lottery. I would cruise around RP without breaking sweat and spend my time drinking espressos in the cafe looking haughty. Before retiring to my pied a terre to drink Bolly blindfolded.Bike1
http://www.flickr.com/photos/35118936@N07/3258551288/
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Christophe3967 wrote:Before retiring to my pied a terre to drink Bolly blindfolded.
You want to have the fantasy centres of your brain MRI'ed - I'm not a doctor so don't take this as "gospel" - but I suspect that your imagination gland may be weak.
Add the following words to your statement above
Jenny Agutter in "werewolf"
Stirrup pump
Stirrup
Thrash
Weeping
Webbing
Surprise
Sudden
Deluge
and then we'll have another chat.Fixed gear for wet weather / hairy roadie for posing in the sun.
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Greg T wrote:Christophe3967 wrote:Before retiring to my pied a terre to drink Bolly blindfolded.
You want to have the fantasy centres of your brain MRI'ed - I'm not a doctor so don't take this as "gospel" - but I suspect that your imagination gland may be weak.
Add the following words to your statement above
Jenny Agutter in "werewolf"
Stirrup pump
Stirrup
Thrash
Weeping
Webbing
Surprise
Sudden
Deluge
and then we'll have another chat.
No, lets not go there... and whatever you do, don't mention Joanna Lumley.
Too late.Bike1
http://www.flickr.com/photos/35118936@N07/3258551288/
Bike 2
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New Bike
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Christophe3967 wrote:biondino wrote:I love you, Greg T (and I also have high flange Phil Wood hubs! We're made for each other!)
But surely, although a thing of beauty, the Vigorelli's not a steel bike? Does that not therefore make you bourgeois?
It's a Bob Jackson Vigorelli frame, described thusly on their website:
"A perfect all round track frameset, built in standard gauge Reynolds 631 tubing up to 22 ½” & 631 oversize 23” & above for added rigidity. Manchester / Newport spec & capable of grass track, time trials or hillclimbs.
Fully cast bottom bracket shell, crown & dropouts,(Rear dropout Spacing 120mm) also comes with 1 set of bottle fittings, drilled for front brake (39-49mm)takes 19-28mm tyres. Available with mudguard fittings for winter use at no extra cost if required. Column is 1" threaded as standard or 1" "A" head on request."0 -
biondino wrote:Christophe3967 wrote:biondino wrote:I love you, Greg T (and I also have high flange Phil Wood hubs! We're made for each other!)
But surely, although a thing of beauty, the Vigorelli's not a steel bike? Does that not therefore make you bourgeois?
It's a Bob Jackson Vigorelli frame, described thusly on their website:
"A perfect all round track frameset, built in standard gauge Reynolds 631 tubing up to 22 ½” & 631 oversize 23” & above for added rigidity. Manchester / Newport spec & capable of grass track, time trials or hillclimbs.
Fully cast bottom bracket shell, crown & dropouts,(Rear dropout Spacing 120mm) also comes with 1 set of bottle fittings, drilled for front brake (39-49mm)takes 19-28mm tyres. Available with mudguard fittings for winter use at no extra cost if required. Column is 1" threaded as standard or 1" "A" head on request."
Ah, I was coming over all Cinelli. As you were.Bike1
http://www.flickr.com/photos/35118936@N07/3258551288/
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What a shame they gave it to that chimpanzee to paint.0
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biondino wrote:Christophe3967 wrote:biondino wrote:I love you, Greg T (and I also have high flange Phil Wood hubs! We're made for each other!)
But surely, although a thing of beauty, the Vigorelli's not a steel bike? Does that not therefore make you bourgeois?
It's a Bob Jackson Vigorelli frame, described thusly on their website:
"A perfect all round track frameset, built in standard gauge Reynolds 631 tubing up to 22 ½” & 631 oversize 23” & above for added rigidity. Manchester / Newport spec & capable of grass track, time trials or hillclimbs.
Fully cast bottom bracket shell, crown & dropouts,(Rear dropout Spacing 120mm) also comes with 1 set of bottle fittings, drilled for front brake (39-49mm)takes 19-28mm tyres. Available with mudguard fittings for winter use at no extra cost if required. Column is 1" threaded as standard or 1" "A" head on request."
I want one of those!!!!!!! Maybe sell the 531 Barron?!?!?!!?!0 -
jashburnham wrote:
That is a distinctly 'low-brow' paint job - I'd be embarrassed to give it away as third prize in a pub quiz. Rubbish.'Happiness serves hardly any other purpose than to make unhappiness possible' Marcel Proust.0 -
It looks like it's from the 80's, and not in a good way!Pictures are better than words because some words are big and hard to understand.
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Chr1st am I the only one that likes it then?
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jashburnham wrote:Chr1st am I the only one that likes it then?
Actually that smiley is a tad disturbing.
1. Yes.
2. Damn right. It's when you realise the eyes are closed and wonder what it's imagining it's doing that it all starts to go pear-shaped.0 -
Greg66 wrote:jashburnham wrote:Chr1st am I the only one that likes it then?
Actually that smiley is a tad disturbing.
1. Yes.
2. Damn right. It's when you realise the eyes are closed and wonder what it's imagining it's doing that it all starts to go pear-shaped.
You think that's bad, how about this one:
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jashburnham wrote:
:shock:
That one makes me feel all funny inside :oops:Pictures are better than words because some words are big and hard to understand.
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