Elitism

il_principe

Christophe3967 wrote:

biondino wrote:

passout wrote:

What's wrong with Eltism anyway? It's better than Communism: all riding aroundon dull, poorly made ,heavy bikes....it would be like a trip to Halfords. Perish the thought.

Everyone would have the same FCN, and scalping would be outlawed as repression of the proletariat.

Except our dear comrades the Politburo, who would all ride Pinarellos, Viners, and Cervellos on specially reserved, freshly tarmaced lanes.

I like this idea. Out of my way Proles! mmmm this tarmac is smoooooth.

passout

Yes, that sounds good. Roads could reflect society with a crowded & roughly hewn inside lane for the Prole cyclists, a Bourgeois middle lane and the smooth outside lane for the likes of me. In this society there is a social underclass (below Proles) but they are not allowed to be closer than 5 metres to any bicycle in a bid to cut down on theft. They have to walk across the muddy fields.

While we're on the subject, I've often thought that cyclists with steel single speeds are probably socialist up starts or perhaps champagne socialists? What do you think?

Jay dubbleU

jashburnham wrote:

Christophe3967 wrote:

biondino wrote:

passout wrote:

What's wrong with Eltism anyway? It's better than Communism: all riding aroundon dull, poorly made ,heavy bikes....it would be like a trip to Halfords. Perish the thought.

Everyone would have the same FCN, and scalping would be outlawed as repression of the proletariat.

Except our dear comrades the Politburo, who would all ride Pinarellos, Viners, and Cervellos on specially reserved, freshly tarmaced lanes.

I like this idea. Out of my way Proles! mmmm this tarmac is smoooooth.

Nothing wrong with elitism - if there is no elite there is no incentive to raise your standards - however some of us are happy with our current standards and occasionally scalping the slightly more elite

And where does the idea that all hybrids are dull and heavy come from ? Mine is fast as a very fast thing and tough as a very tough thing 8)

passout

Yes but it's hard to love a hybrid in the same way that you might love a 'racer' or an MTB - bikes with a certain 'purity'. They are not objects of desire - just a form a transport (sounds a bit Communist to me).

don_don

Is it too late to comment that all cyclo-crossers are perverts?

Kieran_Burns

don_don wrote:

Is it too late to comment that all cyclo-crossers are perverts?

Last post page two :P

don_don

Thanks K_B

Bears repeating tho......

passout

You're right....I've got a cross bike. :oops:

Kieran_Burns

Please note the new last line in my signature. 8) and proud!

gtvlusso

I have no clue what this is about! If it is Hybrid Vs drop road bike - I "outgrew" my Sports hybrid and went drop bar all the way - quicker bike and a bigger chainset - as I was an awful lot fitter.

As for elitism.....I am sure that as experience, knowledge and physical attributes in any field is gathered - the ego and the snobbery will come too!

Why do people buy big powerful cars? Why do people buy vintage guitars and amplifiers that cost a fortune? Elitism comes in many forms, but is usually derived from experience and knowledge.....

*I might be full of sh1t*!!!!!

Greg T

passout wrote:

I've often thought that cyclists with steel single speeds are probably socialist up starts or perhaps champagne socialists? What do you think?

We reject your narrow classifications and prejudices!

We are the true inheritors of the Bohemian ideal (but with a LOT less free love), velvet revolution and renaissance. We have shed the capitalist shackles of the derailler (which I don't know how to spell - so much is my disdain for it) the cogs are emblematic of the system that crushes individuality and expression and we will have none of it.

Unless of course this impacts the following "sacred zones" of fixed riding

1. You must trackstand, all the time, at the front of the herd, so they can all see you.

2. Your chain line must be so tight that the pins squeak unless lubed up to dripping point

3. Lubed up to dripping point (just like the way it makes me feel as I type)

4. Your chain ring cannot be as standard from the donor bike, it must be at least 4T bigger

5. You think that 130 RPM is quite a reasonable churn rate and not at all too silly

6. You'd wear a little bike cap if your Mrs would let you.

Apart from all of the above and a fairly long list concerning 3/4 length tights / shorts / acceptable brands of jersey / shades and associated kit, Brookes saddles, Phil woods high flange hubs (I got 'em - shiny - worship me you DOGS) and other things - we are highly iconoclastic and "different".

Champagne - pah - unless it's something that will impress people as I drink it - in fairness I couldn't tell freixnet from Bolly it I was blindfolded - if I were blindfolded I'd rather hoped to have moved on from the drinking stage anyway.

biondino

I love you, Greg T (and I also have high flange Phil Wood hubs! We're made for each other!)

the_hundredth_idiot

chuckcork wrote:

DonDaddyD wrote:

If I was shaved I'd have to take up the oldest profession.

Um, you'd become a midwife?

Lawyer, surely?

greg66_tri_v2.0

biondino wrote:

I love you, Greg T (and I also have high flange Phil Wood hubs! We're made for each other!)

Holy smokes!

He's building quite the man-harem around here.

Looks like Bianchi has a long wait for a sibling.

Rich158

The Hundredth Idiot wrote:

chuckcork wrote:

DonDaddyD wrote:

If I was shaved I'd have to take up the oldest profession.

Um, you'd become a midwife?

Lawyer, surely?

No, architect

Greg T

biondino wrote:

I love you, Greg T (and I also have high flange Phil Wood hubs! We're made for each other!)

I'd suggest that we get down to the nasty, however I know that your Avatar is in fact not a completely true representation of what you look like, but a very good representation of how you are....

Given that I'm an appearance driven whore I'll pass on your offer as rough gay hell dog rumpy isn't doing it for me.

Borrow Linsen's Avatar of Imogen Stubbs however and we have a deal.

Christophe3967

biondino wrote:

I love you, Greg T (and I also have high flange Phil Wood hubs! We're made for each other!)

But surely, although a thing of beauty, the Vigorelli's not a steel bike? Does that not therefore make you bourgeois?

Now, I would really love a steel Colnago if I won the lottery. I would cruise around RP without breaking sweat and spend my time drinking espressos in the cafe looking haughty. Before retiring to my pied a terre to drink Bolly blindfolded.

Greg T

Christophe3967 wrote:

Before retiring to my pied a terre to drink Bolly blindfolded.

You want to have the fantasy centres of your brain MRI'ed - I'm not a doctor so don't take this as "gospel" - but I suspect that your imagination gland may be weak.

Add the following words to your statement above

Jenny Agutter in "werewolf"
Stirrup pump
Stirrup
Thrash
Weeping
Webbing
Surprise
Sudden
Deluge

and then we'll have another chat.

Christophe3967

Greg T wrote:

Christophe3967 wrote:

Before retiring to my pied a terre to drink Bolly blindfolded.

You want to have the fantasy centres of your brain MRI'ed - I'm not a doctor so don't take this as "gospel" - but I suspect that your imagination gland may be weak.

Add the following words to your statement above

Jenny Agutter in "werewolf"
Stirrup pump
Stirrup
Thrash
Weeping
Webbing
Surprise
Sudden
Deluge

and then we'll have another chat.

No, lets not go there... and whatever you do, don't mention Joanna Lumley.

Too late.

biondino

Christophe3967 wrote:

biondino wrote:

I love you, Greg T (and I also have high flange Phil Wood hubs! We're made for each other!)

But surely, although a thing of beauty, the Vigorelli's not a steel bike? Does that not therefore make you bourgeois?

It's a Bob Jackson Vigorelli frame, described thusly on their website:

"A perfect all round track frameset, built in standard gauge Reynolds 631 tubing up to 22 ½” & 631 oversize 23” & above for added rigidity. Manchester / Newport spec & capable of grass track, time trials or hillclimbs.
Fully cast bottom bracket shell, crown & dropouts,(Rear dropout Spacing 120mm) also comes with 1 set of bottle fittings, drilled for front brake (39-49mm)takes 19-28mm tyres. Available with mudguard fittings for winter use at no extra cost if required. Column is 1" threaded as standard or 1" "A" head on request."

Christophe3967

biondino wrote:

Christophe3967 wrote:

biondino wrote:

I love you, Greg T (and I also have high flange Phil Wood hubs! We're made for each other!)

But surely, although a thing of beauty, the Vigorelli's not a steel bike? Does that not therefore make you bourgeois?

It's a Bob Jackson Vigorelli frame, described thusly on their website:

"A perfect all round track frameset, built in standard gauge Reynolds 631 tubing up to 22 ½” & 631 oversize 23” & above for added rigidity. Manchester / Newport spec & capable of grass track, time trials or hillclimbs.
Fully cast bottom bracket shell, crown & dropouts,(Rear dropout Spacing 120mm) also comes with 1 set of bottle fittings, drilled for front brake (39-49mm)takes 19-28mm tyres. Available with mudguard fittings for winter use at no extra cost if required. Column is 1" threaded as standard or 1" "A" head on request."

Ah, I was coming over all Cinelli. As you were.

il_principe

Christophe3967 wrote:

Ah, I was coming over all Cinelli. As you were.

I do like the Cinelli:

always_tyred

What a shame they gave it to that chimpanzee to paint.

gtvlusso

biondino wrote:

Christophe3967 wrote:

biondino wrote:

I love you, Greg T (and I also have high flange Phil Wood hubs! We're made for each other!)

But surely, although a thing of beauty, the Vigorelli's not a steel bike? Does that not therefore make you bourgeois?

It's a Bob Jackson Vigorelli frame, described thusly on their website:

"A perfect all round track frameset, built in standard gauge Reynolds 631 tubing up to 22 ½” & 631 oversize 23” & above for added rigidity. Manchester / Newport spec & capable of grass track, time trials or hillclimbs.
Fully cast bottom bracket shell, crown & dropouts,(Rear dropout Spacing 120mm) also comes with 1 set of bottle fittings, drilled for front brake (39-49mm)takes 19-28mm tyres. Available with mudguard fittings for winter use at no extra cost if required. Column is 1" threaded as standard or 1" "A" head on request."

I want one of those!!!!!!! Maybe sell the 531 Barron?!?!?!!?!

passout

jashburnham wrote:

Christophe3967 wrote:

Ah, I was coming over all Cinelli. As you were.

I do like the Cinelli:

That is a distinctly 'low-brow' paint job - I'd be embarrassed to give it away as third prize in a pub quiz. Rubbish.

robmanic1

It looks like it's from the 80's, and not in a good way!

il_principe

Chr1st am I the only one that likes it then?



Actually that smiley is a tad disturbing.

greg66_tri_v2.0

jashburnham wrote:

Chr1st am I the only one that likes it then?



Actually that smiley is a tad disturbing.

1. Yes.
2. Damn right. It's when you realise the eyes are closed and wonder what it's imagining it's doing that it all starts to go pear-shaped.

il_principe

Greg66 wrote:

jashburnham wrote:

Chr1st am I the only one that likes it then?



Actually that smiley is a tad disturbing.

1. Yes.
2. Damn right. It's when you realise the eyes are closed and wonder what it's imagining it's doing that it all starts to go pear-shaped.

You think that's bad, how about this one:



:shock:

robmanic1

jashburnham wrote:

:shock:

That one makes me feel all funny inside :oops: