Can you prosecute a 13yr old boy

prj45

As for the "things are much worse than they used to be " brigade, teenage pregancies have decreased year on year since 1967 and are at an all time low. 14 year old girls getting pregent is very rare, and always has been.

Check out figure 1 in this document.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/articles/p ... s_pt93.pdf

Or these figures:

> Under 16 conception rates per 1000
>
> 1991- 8.9
> 1996- 9.5
> 1999- 8.3
> 2000- 8.3
> 2001- 8.0
> 2002 - 7.9
> 2003 - 7.9
> 2004 - 7.5
> 2005 - 7.8
> 2006 - 7.8

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/STATBASE/E ... /D9558.xls

This is just something for the Daily Mail brigade to get angry about. It's not unusual though and the situation remains very rare.

I really want to understand what motives this Daily Mail lot have for being so disgusted at the "increase "in lower teen pregnancies in recent years that SIMPLY ISN'T THERE!

DonDaddyD

prj45 it's sensationalism. It's why some watch Eastenders, Corrie, Emmerdale etc and the stories are getting progressively more outrageous/worse.

A 13 -baby faced- year old boy is the father of a baby. However, the the 13yr old may not be the 'Dad' as the 15yr old Mother may, at the time of conception, have had at least 2 other sexual partners a boy of 14 and a boy of 16.

This is so unfamiliar to our social norms that it attracts to our natural curiosity. Papers know this and glorify the story to make money. - I'm not saying that that is right.

prj45

DonDaddyD wrote:

Papers know this and glorify the story to make money. - I'm not saying that that is right.

Ohh, I undertand that and good luck to them. It's the consumers I want to understand, for without them there would be no reason to sensationlise it.

spen666

prj45 wrote:

As for the "things are much worse than they used to be " brigade, teenage pregancies have decreased year on year since 1967 and are at an all time low. 14 year old girls getting pregent is very rare, and always has been.

Check out figure 1 in this document.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/articles/p ... s_pt93.pdf

Or these figures:

> Under 16 conception rates per 1000
>
> 1991- 8.9
> 1996- 9.5
> 1999- 8.3
> 2000- 8.3
> 2001- 8.0
> 2002 - 7.9
> 2003 - 7.9
> 2004 - 7.5
> 2005 - 7.8
> 2006 - 7.8

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/STATBASE/E ... /D9558.xls

This is just something for the Daily Mail brigade to get angry about. It's not unusual though and the situation remains very rare.

I really want to understand what motives this Daily Mail lot have for being so disgusted at the "increase "in lower teen pregnancies in recent years that SIMPLY ISN'T THERE!

Could this have more to do with the availability of contraception and abortions rather than "better" behaviour by teenagers perhaps?

DavidTQ

I was the result of a teenage pregnancy where my mum was recommended to get an abortion... My mum and dad were both 16 and so the situation was different from the one discussed, but despite that my mum was told she should have an abortion because she was too young and throwing her life away, but my dad was told by his father "you've made your bed now you've got to lie in it".

My mum made the decision to keep me, they got married in the January a few years earlier than planned... I was born in the May, 31 years and 4 kids later they are still together, my dad managed as a 16 year old to support his new family (no easy feat), and it has to be said despite their youth they have done a fair job, all of their kids are now married, most with children themselves, no drugs, alcoholics, convictions etc amongst any of his kids.

The issue of abortions for teenage mums is one that I have something of a biased opinion on as if people who held those ideas had their way I wouldnt be, and it really was a close call so far theres 15 lives that have only occured because the abortion didnt! Every one of which brings joy to the woman who took the difficult decision to live up to the consequences of her actions.

DonDaddyD

DavidTQ wrote:

I was the result of a teenage pregnancy where my mum was recommended to get an abortion... My mum and dad were both 16 and so the situation was different from the one discussed, but despite that my mum was told she should have an abortion because she was too young and throwing her life away, but my dad was told by his father "you've made your bed now you've got to lie in it".

My mum made the decision to keep me, they got married in the January a few years earlier than planned... I was born in the May, 31 years and 4 kids later they are still together, my dad managed as a 16 year old to support his new family (no easy feat), and it has to be said despite their youth they have done a fair job, all of their kids are now married, most with children themselves, no drugs, alcoholics, convictions etc amongst any of his kids.

The issue of abortions for teenage mums is one that I have something of a biased opinion on as if people who held those ideas had their way I wouldnt be, and it really was a close call so far theres 15 lives that have only occured because the abortion didnt! Every one of which brings joy to the woman who took the difficult decision to live up to the consequences of her actions.

Thank you for sharing your insight with us.

My Mum was 19 and my Dad was 20 when I was born.

Not that this has any large relevance but were you born at time 20-30+yrs ago when it wasn't uncommon for people to have babies and get married relatively young compared to the average age of today?

DavidTQ

DonDaddyD wrote:

Thank you for sharing your insight with us.

My Mum was 19 and my Dad was 20 when I was born.

Not that this has any large relevance but were you born at time 20-30+yrs ago when it wasn't uncommon for people to have babies and get married relatively young compared to the average age of today?

It certainly WASNT common at the time, (31 years ago) my mum and dad were by far the first amongst their peers to get married or have children. My mums age was the sole reason many were advising she have an abortion even back in those "days of yore", because she was "too young". Even back then A-levels and university were very much "The Norm" for anyone who didnt want to work in construction or nursing. My mums older sister didnt start having children until her 30's. although she was married in her mid 20's which was a very "normal" situation for that generation. Certainly at school I ALWAYS had the youngest parents of any kid in my school year.

I think you have to look a bit further back still for marriage and kids at 16 to have been "common" although of course by time you get to that place you will also be at the time when sex outside of marriage was a neighbourhood scandal. My wifes grandparents were concerned what people might think, because she fell pregnant on their honeymoon and they were having twins (which often arrive early).

A quick straw poll of my wife and I's grandparents age at marriage and first children my wifes set of grandparents were mid 20's before they settled down and getting married, the same for both sets of my grandparents. So even 60 years ago the "norm" for my immedeate family was marriage and children in early - mid20's.

DonDaddyD

DavidTQ wrote:

DonDaddyD wrote:

Thank you for sharing your insight with us.

My Mum was 19 and my Dad was 20 when I was born.

Not that this has any large relevance but were you born at time 20-30+yrs ago when it wasn't uncommon for people to have babies and get married relatively young compared to the average age of today?

It certainly WASNT common at the time, (31 years ago) my mum and dad were by far the first amongst their peers to get married or have children. My mums age was the sole reason many were advising she have an abortion even back in those "days of yore", because she was "too young". Even back then A-levels and university were very much "The Norm" for anyone who didnt want to work in construction or nursing. My mums older sister didnt start having children until her 30's. although she was married in her mid 20's which was a very "normal" situation for that generation. Certainly at school I ALWAYS had the youngest parents of any kid in my school year.

I think you have to look a bit further back still for marriage and kids at 16 to have been "common" although of course by time you get to that place you will also be at the time when sex outside of marriage was a neighbourhood scandal. My wifes grandparents were concerned what people might think, because she fell pregnant on their honeymoon and they were having twins (which often arrive early).

A quick straw poll of my wife and I's grandparents age at marriage and first children my wifes set of grandparents were mid 20's before they settled down and getting married, the same for both sets of my grandparents. So even 60 years ago the "norm" for my immedeate family was marriage and children in early - mid20's.

Sorry, I clearly misjudged your age and mine :shock:

Oh well, feel safe in the knowledge that Greg66 is old enough to be our Dad.... :P