Road bike shoes

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  • greg66_tri_v2.0
    greg66_tri_v2.0 Posts: 7,172
    lost_in_thought wrote:

    @Greg66 - OK so which DMT shoes are they?

    DMT

    I've got precursors of the the three velcro strap models and the two strap plus ratchet clip models.

    The truth is that the thinner the cleat, and the less metal/plastic the cleat has in contact with the ground, the easier walking is. You're really balanced on your heel and the back edge of the cleat.
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  • lost_in_thought
    lost_in_thought Posts: 10,563
    MatHammond wrote:
    Viner is far from custom - its the Halfords £1,000 special, although it now has carbon post / bars, light alloy stem, carbon monocoque fork, Xero XR 1 wheels and a Flite titanium saddle bringing the weight down to around 7.5kg for a size L. Looks lovely too.

    As for shoes, mine are a few years old now but the current women's equivalent would be these:

    http://www.lakecycling.com/road-tour-c-2_22_29.html

    Cleat goes in the middle (obviously) and front / back grips allow you to walk pretty much as normal, except the sole is very stiff (fibre glass I think). They come into their own for events like the Fred Whitton where you want something that looks like a road shoe, but you fear that you might just end up walking further than would be comfortable in regular road shoes / look cleats!

    Curses, the new-look ones are nowhere near as chunky of heel as the old-look ones! And I can't seem to find the touring-type ones in the UK... or france or germany... or italy, and lakecycling.com don't ship outside the US!

    Maybe I'll just get the old-style ones in the 43...

    Curses again!

    Oh and nice work on the viner! They're all lovely :)
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  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    Lit just listen to your (soon to be) fellow roadies, WTFU and get some lovely carbon soled stiff roadie shoes. Practicality be damned.
  • greg66_tri_v2.0
    greg66_tri_v2.0 Posts: 7,172
    jashburnham wrote:
    Lit just listen to your (soon to be) fellow roadies, WTFU and get some lovely carbon soled stiff roadie shoes. Practicality be damned.

    Quite. The DMTs even have pink on the ladies' models. You can tell they're for ladies that way.

    Ladies like pink. And flowers. And soap. And scented candles. Even better if they're pink.

    I read that on the internet somewhere. :D
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  • linsen
    linsen Posts: 1,959
    well sorry to say it Jash but I ignored your advice and surprised myself in the LBS by buying some silver Northwave shoes :shock:

    Also he advised me strongly against Speedplays so I have come away with some Looks.

    Watch out, mean streets of the South - I think in 2009 I might just mean business :twisted:
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  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    linsen wrote:
    Also he advised me strongly against Speedplays
    Why?
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    I really wanted Northwave shoes for xmas but santa is a dirty cheating b**tard and ignored my letter.

    northwave-80181001-a-zoom.jpg

    I have a shoe problem :oops: [/img]
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  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    linsen wrote:
    well sorry to say it Jash but I ignored your advice and surprised myself in the LBS by buying some silver Northwave shoes :shock:

    Also he advised me strongly against Speedplays so I have come away with some Looks.

    Watch out, mean streets of the South - I think in 2009 I might just mean business :twisted:
    Did he give a reason against the speedplays or just suck through his teeth?

    Good stuff, though. Hopefully long rides on the bigger platform pedals will be a revelation :)
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  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    Really want some of the new mavics : http://www.pearsoncycles.co.uk/product/ ... SHOES_2009

    Maybe after a few months saving...
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  • biondino
    biondino Posts: 5,990
    Maybe Linsen was also influenced by Jen disliking them so much that she sold them half way through a ride!!
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  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    biondino wrote:
    Maybe Linsen was also influenced by Jen disliking them so much that she sold them half way through a ride!!

    How is that possible??? did she ride the rest of the journey bare foot? must be a woman thing :P
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  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    JonGinge wrote:
    Really want some of the new mavics : http://www.pearsoncycles.co.uk/product/ ... SHOES_2009

    Maybe after a few months saving...

    WTF they had better come with some kind of mini jet propulsion system for that kind of money, you could buy a pair of hand made Church's shoes for that sort of dosh and glue cleats to them, well almost :shock:
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  • Paul_J
    Paul_J Posts: 1
    I'd get these:

    http://www.crankbrothers.com/quattro_sl.php

    You can get cleats with a raised surround that makes walking easier. Comes in 2 hole

    http://www.crankbrothers.com/quattro_cleat.php?itemId=74650

    or 3 hole version:

    http://www.crankbrothers.com/3hole_cleat.php?itemId=

    I'd have two pairs of shoes, with the SPD type cleat on the grippy commuter shoes:

    http://www.crankbrothers.com/premium_cleat.php?itemId=

    You would then just need one set of pedals which would be easy to swap between bikes. Maybe you could then afford the titanium ones?
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    What's wrong with Shimano and their SPD-sl pedals.
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  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    What's wrong with Shimano and their SPD-sl pedals.
    Nothing at all, each to their own, choice is good etc etc

    But really Lit can't put shimano on a campag record bike, that would be rude ;)
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  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    How is the durability of the mavics (previously addidas)?

    I spent that much on some sidis but only because I thought they'd outlast me. But the strap arrangement on the mavics looks better.....and I also want......
  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    Always Tyred wrote:
    How is the durability of the mavics (previously addidas)?

    I spent that much on some sidis but only because I thought they'd outlast me. But the strap arrangement on the mavics looks better.....and I also want......
    That's the thing. Don't know yet. They only went on public release in jan. The pros were using the zxelliums from the TDF onwards last year but haven't seen any of the Huez around yet...
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  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    Well, start saving coppers now, and decide in 2011 when you have enough.

    The only problem is that there will be a newer, more desireable and more expensive option by then.....
  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    :lol: Starting shoe fund right now

    Lit, check these* http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=32867


    * not yet in stock for your big flappy feet ;)
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  • lost_in_thought
    lost_in_thought Posts: 10,563
    Greg66 wrote:
    jashburnham wrote:
    Lit just listen to your (soon to be) fellow roadies, WTFU and get some lovely carbon soled stiff roadie shoes. Practicality be damned.

    Quite. The DMTs even have pink on the ladies' models. You can tell they're for ladies that way.

    Ladies like pink. And flowers. And soap. And scented candles. Even better if they're pink.

    I read that on the internet somewhere. :D

    No. I want shoes I can walk in. Humph.

    Well now that that's cleared up...

    @jonginge - those mavic shoes are white! For starters they can't possibly be for ladies, I've read on the internet somewhere that things for ladies are pink and scented with flowers on. Secondly, and perhaps more importantly, white is so impractical! Maybe when they turn up in flipper-foot size they'll introduce a black version...

    @linsen - why did he not like the speedplays? Epic said they were really overpriced and not as long-lasting as, say, look.

    @Paul J - they don't mention any float? I kind of need float...

    @DDD - yeah, shimano pedals on a campag set-up does seem a bit off... even to me!
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  • linsen
    linsen Posts: 1,959
    He advised against Speedplays because he said they are cumbersome, not user-friendly and wondered why I wouldn't just get Looks. He said they did the first ones and everyone has been playing catch-up ever since. And I must admit Jen's experience did put me off.

    As for shoe colour - I had a choice in the LBS between some Bontrager e-sole shoes and the Northwave tarty silver ones. I would personally always have gone for black, but the NW ones were such a good fit compared to the others that reason won the day. I am now a winter commuting vision in black kit, with a dayglo jacket and silver shoes :shock:

    I'd have given you an update when I got to work if I could have got the old bl**dy pedals off last night :?
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  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    linsen wrote:
    He advised against Speedplays because he said they are cumbersome, not user-friendly and wondered why I wouldn't just get Looks. He said they did the first ones and everyone has been playing catch-up ever since. And I must admit Jen's experience did put me off.
    Whaaa... splutter, splutter. While it's true Look were first Time's first pedal was much better (they nicked Look's designer for a start). It's Look that have been playing catchup
    linsen wrote:
    As for shoe colour - I had a choice in the LBS between some Bontrager e-sole shoes and the Northwave tarty silver ones. I would personally always have gone for black, but the NW ones were such a good fit compared to the others that reason won the day. I am now a winter commuting vision in black kit, with a dayglo jacket and silver shoes :shock:
    mmm, silver
    @Lit white is perfectly practical if you don't ride on wet roads. Problem solved
    linsen wrote:
    I'd have given you an update when I got to work if I could have got the old bl**dy pedals off last night :?
    No grease on threads?
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  • linsen
    linsen Posts: 1,959
    JonGinge wrote:
    linsen wrote:
    He advised against Speedplays because he said they are cumbersome, not user-friendly and wondered why I wouldn't just get Looks. He said they did the first ones and everyone has been playing catch-up ever since. And I must admit Jen's experience did put me off.
    Whaaa... splutter, splutter. While it's true Look were first Time's first pedal was much better (they nicked Look's designer for a start). It's Look that have been playing catchup
    linsen wrote:
    As for shoe colour - I had a choice in the LBS between some Bontrager e-sole shoes and the Northwave tarty silver ones. I would personally always have gone for black, but the NW ones were such a good fit compared to the others that reason won the day. I am now a winter commuting vision in black kit, with a dayglo jacket and silver shoes :shock:
    mmm, silver
    @Lit white is perfectly practical if you don't ride on wet roads. Problem solved
    linsen wrote:
    I'd have given you an update when I got to work if I could have got the old bl**dy pedals off last night :?
    No grease on threads?

    Do you know what? I needed to stop faffing about and make a decision so I did. The man in the shop has been riding and fixing for many many years so I trusted him. TBH the best way to improve my performance is to ride more, anyway, I am sure it must be down to personal preference at the end of the day

    Grease? Yes I have some now, mutter mutter. Think the LBS changed the last pair for me, surely they used some? The right sized spanner, a bit of knowledge about which way I was supposed to be turning the blinking things and a better mood may have helped, too :?
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  • lost_in_thought
    lost_in_thought Posts: 10,563
    linsen wrote:
    Do you know what? I needed to stop faffing about and make a decision so I did. The man in the shop has been riding and fixing for many many years so I trusted him. TBH the best way to improve my performance is to ride more, anyway, I am sure it must be down to personal preference at the end of the day

    Grease? Yes I have some now, mutter mutter. Think the LBS changed the last pair for me, surely they used some? The right sized spanner, a bit of knowledge about which way I was supposed to be turning the blinking things and a better mood may have helped, too :?

    Stupid grease... stupid pedals... I can't get mine off either. Fortunately I got hold of some of those flat pedal attachments that you put on SPDs. I need a bigger spanner.

    It's interesting that Epic didn't think much of the speedplays either. What happened to Jen with hers?
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  • bratboy
    bratboy Posts: 82
    If you have an inckling of a knee problem or think you may get one then you need something with plenty of float. Time and Speedplay have the best, but as stated Speedplay and be combersome (so I've heard).

    I've used both Look and Time over the years, and Time win hands down. Not only 'cos they have more float (they introdcued the first pedal to have float) but 'cos the cleat alignment on the shoe is much easier. Now they have the cafe cleat using the 3-hole fixing (they use to use their own 4-hole fixiing) they are much more stable and similar to Look/Shim cleats.

    For shoes you really need to go to your LBS and try them on as the differnet makes come up differently, even for the same size for a different models from the same manufacturer. I've also found that triathlon specific shoes are the most comfortable as they are made to be worn without socks and with wet feet, so they tend to be like putting your foot in a glove. No hard, tight, rough bits just nice soft interiors and plenty of ventilation for those hot summer days that are just aroud the corner - or if it's the usual c**py weather then they let the water out much better too.
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  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    linsen wrote:
    JonGinge wrote:
    linsen wrote:
    He advised against Speedplays because he said they are cumbersome, not user-friendly and wondered why I wouldn't just get Looks. He said they did the first ones and everyone has been playing catch-up ever since. And I must admit Jen's experience did put me off.
    Whaaa... splutter, splutter. While it's true Look were first Time's first pedal was much better (they nicked Look's designer for a start). It's Look that have been playing catchup
    linsen wrote:
    As for shoe colour - I had a choice in the LBS between some Bontrager e-sole shoes and the Northwave tarty silver ones. I would personally always have gone for black, but the NW ones were such a good fit compared to the others that reason won the day. I am now a winter commuting vision in black kit, with a dayglo jacket and silver shoes :shock:
    mmm, silver
    @Lit white is perfectly practical if you don't ride on wet roads. Problem solved
    linsen wrote:
    I'd have given you an update when I got to work if I could have got the old bl**dy pedals off last night :?
    No grease on threads?

    Do you know what? I needed to stop faffing about and make a decision so I did. The man in the shop has been riding and fixing for many many years so I trusted him. TBH the best way to improve my performance is to ride more, anyway, I am sure it must be down to personal preference at the end of the day

    Grease? Yes I have some now, mutter mutter. Think the LBS changed the last pair for me, surely they used some? The right sized spanner, a bit of knowledge about which way I was supposed to be turning the blinking things and a better mood may have helped, too :?
    I have silver shoes too, and silver running shoes :)
    Trying to change seized/hard to remove pedals is the quickest way to a bad mood and profanity. Been there, once was enough ;)

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  • bratboy
    bratboy Posts: 82
    don't forget that pedals have one that has a left hand thread (left pedal) and the other a right hand thread (right pedal) ;)
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  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    linsen wrote:
    He advised against Speedplays because he said they are cumbersome, not user-friendly and wondered why I wouldn't just get Looks. He said they did the first ones and everyone has been playing catch-up ever since. And I must admit Jen's experience did put me off.

    As for shoe colour - I had a choice in the LBS between some Bontrager e-sole shoes and the Northwave tarty silver ones. I would personally always have gone for black, but the NW ones were such a good fit compared to the others that reason won the day. I am now a winter commuting vision in black kit, with a dayglo jacket and silver shoes :shock:

    I'd have given you an update when I got to work if I could have got the old bl**dy pedals off last night :?
    Speedplays aren't for everyone. However I guess he doesn't sell speedplays.

    They are two sided so easy to get in. Free float makes them easy to get out of. Non reliance on springs for retention makes them difficult to PULL out of. They are amongst the lightest systems available so "cumbersome" is an odd statement. The cleats are difficult to walk on, though, but the wear they get from walking isn't usually on the contact points. Besides, you can get small covers for them. The cleats are expensive, but arne't made of plastic like ofher systems, so they do last a long time.

    But some people can't get used to the ice skating sensation and can't get used to turning their ankle out 15 degrees (as opposed to 7 for other systems) to clip out.
  • don_don
    don_don Posts: 1,007
    lost_in_thought wrote:
    No. I want shoes I can walk in. Humph.

    In that case I think you are really looking at some good mtb 'race' shoes with carbon soles, like Sidi Dragons etc. The 'SRS' versions have replaceable tread blocks for when they wear out.

    Have you thought about Crank Bro's Eggbeater pedals? They are very similar in function to SPDs and are pretty minimal, so might look right on the VIner.

    Cue derision from the hardened roadies :P
  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    I'm sorry but these LBS' are talking bollocks. How are Speedplay cumbersome? They are lighter than basically any other pedal, have a lower stack height, are harder wearing, have a very robust 4 hole fixing method and are entirely rebuildable (every part is available as a spare and they are very simple to strip and rebuild), meaning that although you pay more to start with they are much longer lasting. Oh and they're double sided, have either fixed or free float, and allow your foot to get closer to the axle than other makes do.

    Do these LBS's actually stock Speedplay I wonder?

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