2008 cannondale F6 Headset advice

fozzy17
fozzy17 Posts: 339
edited May 2012 in MTB workshop & tech
Hi
im after some advice, ive got a cannondale F6 2008 bike and wanted to chang the headset so i ordered what i thought were the correct headset but when they arrived they were too small, anybody any idea what size headset i need to buy as ive wasted money allready.

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/can ... gn=froogle

this is what i bought

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0364190509
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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    looks like the Cannondale reducers use internal bearings.

    Have a look at the bearing numbers and replace the bearings.

    Send the imperial stuff back.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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  • fozzy17
    fozzy17 Posts: 339
    nicklouse wrote:
    looks like the Cannondale reducers use internal bearings.

    Have a look at the bearing numbers and replace the bearings.

    Send the imperial stuff back.

    Hi
    i wanted to replace to ball bearing type with a sealed bearing, is this possible?
  • UncleMonty
    UncleMonty Posts: 385
    Hey Fozzy, I have the same bike and I'm thinking of replacing the forks & headset, if you find a solution can you drop a link back here. cheers !
  • fozzy17
    fozzy17 Posts: 339
    email from cannondale

    Hello.



    The CO2 Alloy HeadShok frame features a HeadShok sized headtube in which you can use a reducing headset in order to run a 1 1/8 inch fork. Your local Cannondale Retailer can further assist in choosing a reducing headset that suits you and your frame the best.



    Thank you for choosing Cannondale. Have a nice day.



    ~Cannondale Bicycle Corporation

    not the cheapest
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0340926141

    but also this may work
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0300244915
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    Err it already has a reducer in it.

    pics of what you actually have? as it sounds like you have it in bits all ready.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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  • fozzy17
    fozzy17 Posts: 339
    found this getting cheaper

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=33701
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    fozzy17 wrote:
    found this getting cheaper

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=33701
    that one is not compatible
    .

    Note this bit.
    Additionally, we make a Double Xc-short, which allows the use of a 1.1/8" fork with Cannondale HeadShok frames.

    which is not the linked one.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
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  • fozzy17
    fozzy17 Posts: 339
    when you drop the forks off you have a all you have really is a seal top and bottom and two ball bearing (bearings)
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    pics.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • fozzy17
    fozzy17 Posts: 339
    nicklouse wrote:
    fozzy17 wrote:
    found this getting cheaper

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=33701
    that one is not compatible
    .

    Note this bit.
    Additionally, we make a Double Xc-short, which allows the use of a 1.1/8" fork with Cannondale HeadShok frames.

    which is not the linked one.

    good spot looks like its this one then

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... delID=7392

    unless anyone know of a cheaper alternative
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    and again.

    Pictures of what you have.

    Or just get a couple of reducer cups and a standard headset.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • fozzy17
    fozzy17 Posts: 339
    will sort pictures out but its late, reducer wont work the cannondale headset is huge compared to most bike, i have a specialized fsr and the cannondale is twice the size.
  • fozzy17
    fozzy17 Posts: 339
    saying that it looks like you can

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... delID=2219

    i would imagine it would look horrible though.
  • fozzy17
    fozzy17 Posts: 339
    not sure if thats for a headshox headrace thats not got a 1" 1/8 hole, im not really sure
  • fozzy17
    fozzy17 Posts: 339
    http://www.canecreek.com/double-xc-headset.html
  • 3110neil
    3110neil Posts: 303
    Hi
    ive allready looked into this with a lbs
    reducers are allready inside ,if you want to change forks ,just change them no need to change headset,if you want to change headset my lbs said use the crane creek double x short (i think i got that right) i asked the question because i wanted to change the forks
  • fozzy17
    fozzy17 Posts: 339
    3110neil wrote:
    Hi
    ive allready looked into this with a lbs
    reducers are allready inside ,if you want to change forks ,just change them no need to change headset,if you want to change headset my lbs said use the crane creek double x short (i think i got that right) i asked the question because i wanted to change the forks

    Hi
    ive changed the forks (rock shox reba SL 2009) but i dont like the headset its a bog standard ballbearing type, and will soon break or wear, so wanted to change it for a sealed type.
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    so no pictures of what you have at the moment.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • 3110neil
    3110neil Posts: 303
    hi fozzy17
    i have the same bike cannondale f6 disc 08
    what travel on the forks did you get ,let me fnow what headset you get ,going to change mine aswell as the forks cheers
  • UncleMonty
    UncleMonty Posts: 385
    the cane creeks look cool but I wouldn't pay £70 for one, I think I'll just stick with a fork upgrade
  • fozzy17
    fozzy17 Posts: 339
    3110neil wrote:
    hi fozzy17
    i have the same bike cannondale f6 disc 08
    what travel on the forks did you get ,let me fnow what headset you get ,going to change mine aswell as the forks cheers

    Hi
    100mm Rockshox reba SL 2009 with remote lockout got them from merlin on offer £250 delivered, but i had a email from chain reaction today the same but 2008 fot £179.00 delivered.
  • fozzy17
    fozzy17 Posts: 339
    nicklouse wrote:
    so no pictures of what you have at the moment.

    cannondale11Large.jpg
    cannondale12Large.jpg
    cannondale1Large.jpg
    cannondaleLarge.jpg

    bike with the rebas fitted

    cannondale1Large-1.jpg
  • fozzy17
    fozzy17 Posts: 339
    i fitted these

    http://www.merlincycles.co.uk/?fn=produ ... egoryId=18


    the headset on the F6 is tall it measures around 205mm the above fork stem on the above were great but check lenth before you buy one for the above.
  • fozzy17
    fozzy17 Posts: 339
    wondering if these will fir, as they have sealed bearings

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... Track=true
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Your frame uses standard external headset cups, not internal (and definitley not integrated).

    Nowt wrong with loose balls in my eyes, keep 'em clean and greased, got years out of mine.
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  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    Right so we now know that the old set up is a headset reducer and not a reducer with a headset.

    get some of these
    http://www.ison-distribution.com/ison/e ... t=HSIDHR58

    the ones to take the C'dale headtube down to 1 1/8th and then a "standard" 1 1/8th headset.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • 3110neil
    3110neil Posts: 303
    thanks for that fozzy
    so the stem lenght you got was 205,
    when i measured mine im sure it was 195
    but if i got 205 i suppose i could cut it down or add spacers
  • fozzy17
    fozzy17 Posts: 339
    3110neil wrote:
    thanks for that fozzy
    so the stem lenght you got was 205,
    when i measured mine im sure it was 195
    but if i got 205 i suppose i could cut it down or add spacers

    Hi
    sorry it was 205mm with the bar clamp and spaces, but if you buy the same forks there is plent of for stem, i cut about 3" off mine.
  • UncleMonty
    UncleMonty Posts: 385
    Hey Fozzy, I've just noticed that your new forks are 100mm but the Dart 2's you replaced were only 80mm, will this be ok ? I guess 20mm in nothing to worry about.

    Was going to get a pair of Tora 318's but I've just been offered a pair of 302's for FREE, these are 100mm though and I'm not sure if this is ok, I know I could change the spacer inside to make these 80mm but it would be nice just to drop them straight in.
  • sharpy1
    sharpy1 Posts: 100
    Hey Fozzy, I've got an F6 Disc 08 and just last week my headset seized up completely.
    I called Leisure Lakes who told me I could just put an FSA Pig straight in, job done!
    Anyway, after stripping the bike down and taking it into them, they tell me I will need a different, much more expensive headset because of all the issues mentioned before.
    Long story short, the manager put in some of the reducers nicklouse mentioned for free. I'll just have to watch this one and re-grease regularly!
    I didnt want to spend £50-60 when I'm hoping the missus will give the all clear for an upgrade at the end of the year!!
    2009 Zesty 314

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