***List Your Gear***

delcol

i to don't want to think of the amount of cash thrown the bike shops way.
bike one
stock rockymountain vertex 10 with new fsa orbit headset
bike two
scott speedster s60fb pretty much stock apart from mudguards hope vision 1 light
cat eye el510 light and a charge saddle.
black burn mars rear light
cat eye computer
blt rear light
various other light strips that attatch to me for commuting
pluss bag endura gridlock h vis coat altura hvis coat
endura tech pants
and various tools pumps ect
a giro hex hemlmet to
shimano glasses
cannondale ballaclarva
and endura tundra gloves.
lake shoes
and diadorra chillie extremes shoes.
thats my commuting gear.
bike three
santacruz heckler rp23 shock
36 fox talas rc2 forks
race face bars stem
fsa orbit headset
odi grips
formula mega brakes
mavic ex721 front wheel on a north shore billet front hub,
mavic ex321 rear rim on fireeye hub
thompson elite seat post
wtb pure v saddle
kenda tyres
sram x7 drive train
shimano xt frnt mech
shimano lx crank
shimano dx cliipless pedals
sram chain

i think thats it on the sc
bike 4
pace rc305
hope head set
fox 32 talas r fork
easton ea 30 bars
stem
seatpost
nc 17 grips
avid j 5 brakes
crappy shimano deore hubs on mavic rim 321 i think.
bonty mud x tyres
sram x7 shifters
rear mech
sram chain
shimano xt front mech
wtb pure v saddle
shimano dx clippy pedals
race face ride crank

hope vision 4 led light for night riding
fenix tk 11 torch (helmet light)
fenix ld220 torch to as back up.

then loads of over kit
dakine apex and nomad back pack
both with cammel bak bladders
leyzine pump various mini tools
spare tubes
endura venturi event coat
endura windproof jacket
many riding tops mace, marzocchi ,santacruz ,tld ,endura ,gore, to name a few
endura ,gore , dhb jerseys
various shorts altura warter proof 3 qs, endura single track , a few pairs of mace,
endura pants humviess and single track .
ronhill tights when its cold,
to many pairs of gloves to list no fear, six six one , fox, dakine, endura.
pads six six one race guards elbow and forearm
shin and knee
kyle st.
giro zen helmet
a few helmet cameras.

to many locks and chains to list but spent around a grand on various makes and models

and a shed load o tools and spares that wil take me another 20 mins to list,.

thats just what i can remember off the top of me head..

not mention the second shed i had to buy to hold my bike (i not listed my brothers)
and the second car we had to buy in order to ship our bikes round the country,.

and my bike bag for trips abroad,...

dam mtbing is addictive and expensive i hope my misses deos'nt discover this forum,.
she thinks i only have one bike. :shock: :P
no she just very understanding.

delcol

i almost forgot
polaris polarised glasses 4 lenses

lake mtb shoes
lake winter boots,

mudsucker

Ok, here is my gear/kit.

Bike

Specialized stumpjumper FSR comp 2008. Totally standard except I changed the supplied crank brothers smartys for some DMR V12mags. Oh and a torque force mini pump on the frame and lizzard skins rear shock cover for the winter.

Clothes

Giro Animas lid
Oakley XX glasses for when its sunny (they don't get much use )
a Buff with mountain bikes on!
Royal racing everyday long sleve jersey
Raceface long finger gloves
Old Quiksilver fleece for when its cold
Specialized Terra (i think) shorts with under shorts that clip in
MBUK Trek socks !!!!!
Etnies skate shoes
Camelbak classic 2L

Stuff i carry in the Camelbak

pedros chain tool as i have a habit of snapping chains
Allen key set
tyre lever
co2 cartridge pump thingy
spare tube
glueless patches
phone, keys

Other

Ford Focus 1.8
paddy Hopkirk bike rack.

nicklouse

For me it is easy.

YOU do not want to know.

but you will see pics for the next 2 builds over the next few weeks.

Banned!

a bike

some pads

some tools

helmet and gloves

err...

um....thats it.

Raymondavalon

As per J_C above - except 3 bikes and some other things

off-one

And if you could all leave your addresses, and when you'll be out that would be great, thanks very much.

marinman1

commencal combi
bell bellistic
thor enemy goggles
661 kyle straits
raceface kung fu jersey
mace mx comp gloves
sealskinz socks
nike 6.0
a hoodie
a hat
shorts
if its really cold a scarf and waterproof jacket
nikon d40

thats about it i think

MattHarper

I have a Specialized SX Trail One with the Specialized Enduro shock mud guard. 2 Camelbaks (a lobo for local trails, and trails centres, a Hawg for all day Epics). In both, I put my Park Tool I-Beam 13 multitool, topeak pump, spare Sram chain links, puncture repair kits, spare inner tube,(plus in the Hawg, Sony Cybershot digi cam, sometimes packed lunch, O/S maps, Cateye lights, spare batteries, Tescos AA torch with cable ties to mount it to my helmet). Not to mention a Garmin Edge 205.

I have a Specialized Deviant Carbon fibre full face helmet, Endura singletrack trouses, Sombrio jt short sleeve freeride jersey, dhb hawkley jacket.

And a Pug 306 to carry it all!

grantway

Orange 5 AM

The One carbon full face
Met Parrachute (light) full face

Brand X Body suit
661 race lite knee/shine pads
661 full gloves various pairs
5-10's Shoes
Various tops, Downhill and trail
Various Downhill and trail shorts
Bit of lycra to keep warm
Various goggles, lenses and glasses
Buff

Camelbak
Tools and inner tubes
gels etc

Wheels
Vivaro SWB Van

docker0141

Orange crush 08

Giro Remedy full face
Oakley O Frame MX goggles
661 Race Lite Knee & Shin Guards
Fox Commando top
Endura Hummvee shorts + lycra undershorts

**no gloves **

dakine
innertube
multitool

Joe_Pineapples

off-one wrote:

And if you could all leave your addresses, and when you'll be out that would be great, thanks very much.

If some scally can get into my shed, past the alarm and the baby monitor, can defeat the ABUS Granit Extreme 37 chain that's locked to a concreted-in ground anchor, then good luck to him.

Yukon Lad

Giant Yukon FX2
Fox Blitz Jersey
Camelbak Mule
Crank Brothers Multi 5
661 Descend Gloves
Giro Rift Helmet.

Thats all but am hoping to get more kit soon (kyle straits meant to be on the way)

Yukon Lad

Northwind

Joe_Pineapples wrote:

can defeat the ABUS Granit Extreme 37 chain that's locked to a concreted-in ground anchor, then good luck to him.

Not to be a prophet of doom, but Abus don't make a chain that can't be cut in near silence in under a minute with tools from B&Q. Most bike chains are basically a confidence trick, unfortunately. Alarm and baby monitor good though.

Joe_Pineapples

Northwind wrote:

Joe_Pineapples wrote:

can defeat the ABUS Granit Extreme 37 chain that's locked to a concreted-in ground anchor, then good luck to him.

Not to be a prophet of doom, but Abus don't make a chain that can't be cut in near silence in under a minute with tools from B&Q. Most bike chains are basically a confidence trick, unfortunately. Alarm and baby monitor good though.

Bollocks!
In the most poilite way of course.

I lost the key for my last ABUS chain and it took a whole grinding disc and at least ten minutes to cut my motorbike free, that's why I bought another. There's NO WAY you're cutting through it with hand tools, let alone in silence.

delcol

look on you tube and be shocked,..

there have been links on the forum before of so called highsecurity locks being cut in anything from 7 sec to a few minutes all with hand tools...

see if you can still find how safe is your bike gone in 60 seconds... on you tube.

Joe_Pineapples

That's all well and good, but I still say there's no way that you're defeating my fortress of security without me finding out and stopping you.

At the very least old Mrs Miggins, the neighbourhood watch nazi next door, will catch you.

Don't say I didn't warn you!

Northwind

Joe_Pineapples wrote:

Bollocks!
In the most poilite way of course.

I lost the key for my last ABUS chain and it took a whole grinding disc and at least ten minutes to cut my motorbike free, that's why I bought another. There's NO WAY you're cutting through it with hand tools, let alone in silence.

This is the confidence trick... Why do you think something that's hard to grind through is hard to cut through? Different approaches, different strengths. Sold Secure and Thatcham are both complicit, as it seems are some magazines- both of those organisations choose to test using unrealistic methods, such as heat attacks, hammer blows, reciprocating saws and angle grinders, but they don't test using the tool the thieves actually use, because that'd annoy the manufacturers. And likewise, magazines want to sell advert space so they don't generally run stories saying "Almost all bike locks can't stop thieves".

Check youtube for "Captain Cropper", zanx from off of Visordown forum- he's kind of affiliated with Almax chains, but you can't dispute the results. The same displays as on the videos have been done at bike shows publically, with chains bought direct from other suppliers or brought in by customers (then Almax got banned from the major shows after complaints from Oxford and Motrax, who funnily enough sell expensive, weak chains)

THis is the best vid... Includes an Abus Granit, funnily enough, 25 seconds (not your Extreme, just the standard- but the Extreme is just a 12mm chain, there's only been one 12mm chain tested that resisted cheap bolt cutters and that only did it by being overhardened- the tester then shattered a link by whacking it with the croppers instead of cutting it)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC3hFr8p2ck&feature=channel_page

Joe_Pineapples

No chain is unbreakable, I'm not claiming that it is. A determined thief will "ave it away" with anything if he's prepared to put in the effort, but I still think that there's too much of said effort required in order to get what to him at least, is just a wee bicycle.

Make their lives difficult and they'll look elsewhere for easy pickings.

buzz1

Bought Spesh Bighit ll, then started up-grading as follows. :evil:
Manitou Travis triple forks
Halo combat rims (white)
Blackspire chain guide
Juicy 5 brakes
X-9 shifter
Reverse fli XXL bars (white)
Sunline lock-on grips
Funn skinny saddle
Truvativ XR s/post
Hope QR s/clamp


So then I built.....all from CRC
Viper RC 1.0 frame ( Manitou 3 way swinger shock)
Rockshox Recon 85-130mm pop-loc forks
XT drive train
Juicy 3 brakes
Hope headset (gold)
Hope QR skewers/seatclamp (gold)
Raceface bars/stem/seatpost and cranks
FSA BB
Crank brothers 50/50xx pedals (gold)
WTB speedisc wheels - shimano XT hubs
Hutchy bulldog tyres

Gloves/pads/helmet - 661/ No Fear
Shorts - O'neal / Endura
Tops - Royal / No fear/ Sombrio
Shoes - Airwalk

Pumps (shock and tyre) top peak
Camelpack bag containing - spare tubes
repair kit
multi tool
various spanners and allen keys

Northwind

Joe_Pineapples wrote:

No chain is unbreakable, I'm not claiming that it is. A determined thief will "ave it away" with anything if he's prepared to put in the effort, but I still think that there's too much of said effort required in order to get what to him at least, is just a wee bicycle.

Not much effort at all to cut these chains though, is the thing- they're not really much better than cable locks, they just need a slightly bigger cropper to go through them. You could get an Almax Series 3 chain, which needs hydraulics to cut it, that definately takes things up to the point that most thieves will go elsewhere... There's an english chain co chain which is almost as good too.

I like the baby alarm... Clever that, thieves will be looking for CCTV or an alarm after all but not for the mic. Is it two way? Could you use it to shout at them 8)

Joe_Pineapples

The one I have isn't two way, although I could see the fun in that.
I inherited it from a friend whose kids had outgrown it.

It was originally meant to protect my motorbike, but I worry more about my Morewood nowadays and it's the one that's chained up.

supersonic

I've heard that the Almax testing wasn't as even as they make it out - you could say the same for any number of manufacturers who test other locks. At 4.5kg per m and 150 quid, it ought to be bloody good! Not many cyclists will hulk that about, but maybe keep it at the locking site.

I use a length of hardened steel chain from the DIY shop. 10 quid.

Northwind

supersonic wrote:

I've heard that the Almax testing wasn't as even as they make it out - you could say the same for any number of manufacturers who test other locks. At 4.5kg per m and 150 quid, it ought to be bloody good! Not many cyclists will hulk that about, but maybe keep it at the locking site.

You do have to take their videos with a pinch of salt of course- Zanx wasn't connected to Almax but he's a big fanboy But they put it on the line at the ally pally and birmingham bike shows a couple of years ago, challenged allcomers to break their chain or to provide a competitor chain they couldn't break, even going to oxford and saying "What's your best chain" then walking straight back to the stand and cropping it. Quite funny... I had a go myself. They also did a test with an MCN and Ride journalist present.

But yeah, the chain's completely impractical for mobility, it's a home security thing. I don't own one myself, for the motorbike I use a £10 Oxford that's about as strong as a bath plug chain, and for the mountain bike I use a cable lock... Good enough for where I park. Just about making an informed decision really- it's a shame if people think they have a great chain when really it's no better than my cheap rubbish one or a cable lock.

supersonic

I used to demonstrate to Halfords customers which locks not to buy - I would take the 5 quid looped chain lock, with its one weak link and use CABLE CUTTERS to go through in about 2 secs lol!

It is difficult to take all claims seriosuly - though no doubt that there are good locks out there. Just that I know in that Almax vid the claimed Krypto locks at 7 minutes weren't Krypto locks. Not to say they were any good anyway, I certainly wouldn't buy one!

At uni I used 3 locks, a D lock (12mm steel), the above chain, and a long cable lock. Two were left on site, the other taken home. I think 3 locks is better than one expensive one, as requires different techniques to cut through different types. And is more of a visual deterrant.

supersonic

I've often wondered wheter it would be viable to fill a D lock with an indelible ink like used in bank note shipping security. Thief cuts through, pressurised insides sprays it all over them. It could have a chemical signature. The thief would have it on themselves for days, and just takes one person to report them!

Personally I would like to connect mine to the nearest electricity pylon.

Northwind

supersonic wrote:

It is difficult to take all claims seriosuly - though no doubt that there are good locks out there. Just that I know in that Almax vid the claimed Krypto locks at 7 minutes weren't Krypto locks.

Oh, that's interesting... It looks like the krypto chain but now you mention it, it looks like a square link and those are hex section links aren't they... Hmm.

supersonic

You got it!

Northwind

Ah, looks like it's maybe a New York, that's a square section.

supersonic

Not sure how much 'harder' we can get steel chains without them becoming brittle (as demonstrates in what you posted earlier). Like diamond - you can shatter it with a steel cleaver!

I wonder if ceramics will be employed, or even diamond coated alloys. I read this last month:

http://www.paperarticles.com/2008/11/te ... amond.html

Seems will be cheap way of coating products which I see as having propects for the future in the bike industry on chains, bearings and cogs. Unfortunately cutting tools also.