Tour of Qatar rider passes away
hmmmm... condolences - I hope its not the dreaded case of "thick blood"
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2009/feb09/feb05news2
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2009/feb09/feb05news2
Reports emanating from Qatar indicate that Topsport Vlaanderen rider Frederick Nolf has died in his sleep ahead of the race's fifth stage.
Cyclingnews' Gregor Brown spoke to ASO chief Christian Prudhomme this morning and despite Prudhomme not confirming the identity of the rider concerned, news that it was indeed the 21-year-old from Kortrijk who died in his sleep has gathered pace rapidly.
It's not the first time this type of occurence has hit an event. In 2003, 23-year-old French rider Fabrice Salanson died in his sleep during the Tour of Germany. The La Brioche Boulangere rider was found by then-teammate Sylvain Chavanel, causing a massive shock amongst his fellow professionals.
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That's really sad, regardless of causes which I won't specualte on. Nobody should die at that age and in persuit of their career.
RIP."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Shame, feel for the family.
My worst fear is outliving my kids...0 -
Yes, both sad and shocking. We haven't had an incident such as this for quite a while.
So young.
I fear that certain conclusions may well be speculated upon, in the media, before the facts are known.
I hope they remain respectful."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
Cycling as a pro is very tough on the body and will find out any "weaknesses" I suppose. Very sad to hear of any young death. God bless.Take care,
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Always a time to think of the family, friends and colleagues left behind.0
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RIP tragic but without all the fact I hope they dont speculate too much, Its funny how alot of footballers have died suddenly over the last 5 years but you never see the same speculation, even though we know drugs go on in all sports and its naive to think in football its any different taking into account how much money is at stake and its a cut throat career, Maybe if they had as much testing as cycling we would know the truth but its not in the interest of FIFA & Major sponsors to ruin the reputation of the sport.0
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Blazing Saddles wrote:Yes, both sad and shocking. We haven't had an incident such as this for quite a while.
So young.
I fear that certain conclusions may well be speculated upon, in the media, before the facts are known.
I hope they remain respectful.
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Its always sad to see a death of someone so young.For once can we have a bit of respect for his family before putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5.
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disgruntledgoat wrote:Nobody should die at that age and in persuit of their career.
RIP.
+1 RIPCycling never gets any easier, you just go faster - Greg LeMond0 -
I found this via another forum. Very scientific analysis of the MANY causes of sudden death in young athletes. If you follow the link for 'figure 1' under 'causes of sudden death in athletes' there is a pie chart which shows 'drug-related' as only 1% of such cases.
Just a bid sad that, in cycling, there is such an urge to think of the Drug-related.
http://www.suddendeathathletes.org/about_sdia.asp#b0 -
A tragic loss, especially for his family and friends.
Just 21 years of age...too young.
R.I.P.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/others ... Qatar.htmlCommon sense in an uncommon degree is what the world calls wisdom0 -
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Blazing Saddles wrote:Yes, both sad and shocking. We haven't had an incident such as this for quite a while.
So young.
I fear that certain conclusions may well be speculated upon, in the media, before the facts are known.
I hope they remain respectful.
+1 I agree, uninformed speculation is both inappropriate, and disrespectful... who said that, internet forum people ?0 -
Very sad news, especially at his young age.0
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claudb wrote:I found this via another forum. Very scientific analysis of the MANY causes of sudden death in young athletes. If you follow the link for 'figure 1' under 'causes of sudden death in athletes' there is a pie chart which shows 'drug-related' as only 1% of such cases.
Just a bid sad that, in cycling, there is such an urge to think of the Drug-related.
http://www.suddendeathathletes.org/about_sdia.asp#b
Well, the actual cause of death on a certificate may not relate to what triggered that cause. Cause of death due to a phenomenon as a secondary result of drugs may not appear on death certificates.
There needs to be an autopsy to determine cause of death. You can't drown out cycling deaths with the general population. If you look at the statistics of sudden death during sleep from professional bike racers, the connection to drugs is extremely high. To just outright rule out drugs will only put future young riders at risk.
However, congenital heart defects sometimes only present under conditions of very high stress, often at this age. No one knows, but this certainly should be fully investigated.
The last time this happened was Fabrice Salanson in 2003. He was 23. There was no evidence of drugs in that case, but the exact cause of death never got mentioned in the press, and I suspect remains unknown. Denis Zanette also died that year, at 32, when he suffered a myocardial infarction while at his dentist. These things happen.0 -
Martin Van Nostrand wrote:claudb wrote:I found this via another forum. Very scientific analysis of the MANY causes of sudden death in young athletes. If you follow the link for 'figure 1' under 'causes of sudden death in athletes' there is a pie chart which shows 'drug-related' as only 1% of such cases.
Just a bid sad that, in cycling, there is such an urge to think of the Drug-related.
http://www.suddendeathathletes.org/about_sdia.asp#b
Well, the actual cause of death on a certificate may not relate to what triggered that cause. Cause of death due to a phenomenon as a secondary result of drugs may not appear on death certificates.
There needs to be an autopsy to determine cause of death. You can't drown out cycling deaths with the general population. If you look at the statistics of sudden death during sleep from professional bike racers, the connection to drugs is extremely high. To just outright rule out drugs will only put future young riders at risk.
However, congenital heart defects sometimes only present under conditions of very high stress, often at this age. No one knows, but this certainly should be fully investigated.
The last time this happened was Fabrice Salanson in 2003. He was 23. There was no evidence of drugs in that case, but the exact cause of death never got mentioned in the press, and I suspect remains unknown. Denis Zanette also died that year, at 32, when he suffered a myocardial infarction while at his dentist. These things happen.
Good post Nose banned, how does yours get by to spite you.
"The last time this happened".
Do you mean in the top pro ranks or as it reads, anywhere. Was there not a case in this country, that is as yet unexplained, just 14 months ago? Not in sleep mode but saturday night party mode.0 -
don key wrote:
Good post Nose banned, how does yours get by to spite you.
Stunning use of the Queen's english.don key wrote:
"The last time this happened".
Do you mean in the top pro ranks or as it reads, anywhere. Was there not a case in this country, that is as yet unexplained, just 14 months ago? Not in sleep mode but saturday night party mode.
The thread is about a death in the pro cycling ranks. Responses generally refer to the topic of the thread.
Worldwide, I'm certain something happens somewhere, every single day.0 -
Martin Van Nostrand wrote:The last time this happened was Fabrice Salanson in 2003. He was 23. There was no evidence of drugs in that case, but the exact cause of death never got mentioned in the press, and I suspect remains unknown. Denis Zanette also died that year, at 32, when he suffered a myocardial infarction while at his dentist. These things happen.
Don't forget Alessio Galetti and Bruno Neves.0 -
Well, you would be surprised how often this does happen in life.
I have a serious heart condition; got it when I was 22 and requires regularly monitoring.
At the time I thought I was unlucky to be so young and yet have this rare heart problem (only the second male in my state (of 1.5 million) to be diagnosed with it.
My cardiologist told me to stop feeling sorry for myself, at least I was detected. He mentioned that young healthy people die in their sleep due to a suspected heart problem; although they showed no symptoms of the problem, nor an autopsy showing why either - and it happens more often then you'd think.
Granted it s still rare, but the fact that cyclists do give their hearts a workout, any generic defect (noted or unknown) would only be more pronounced.
Therefore don't be surprised if the autopsy is inconclusive. Unfortunately this is just one of the sad facts of life.0 -
Jean-Pierre Heynderrickx (DS) "Nothing alerted us to a health problem," he emphasized. "Frederiek was in top form. Last night, I was joking with him just until he went to bed at 10 PM." His roomate noticed nothing during the night, and Frederiek Nolf was found lying on his back, in his normal sleeping position. The DS further declared, "our riders undergo medical tests four times a year at the University of Louvain (in Belgium) and all Frederiek’s parameters / stats have always been normal. What has happened was completely unexpected."interview.cyclingfever.com0
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Martin Van Nostrand wrote:don key wrote:
Good post Nose banned, how does yours get by to spite you.
Stunning use of the Queen's english.don key wrote:
"The last time this happened".
Do you mean in the top pro ranks or as it reads, anywhere. Was there not a case in this country, that is as yet unexplained, just 14 months ago? Not in sleep mode but saturday night party mode.
The thread is about a death in the pro cycling ranks. Responses generally refer to the topic of the thread.
Worldwide, I'm certain something happens somewhere, every single day.
No need to be flea pant.
That's nothing, you should see me in my team , Dick Sean Harry and I with my marbleous mind0 -
Absolutely Don Key, as I like to say when I think of it - Jam and bearings make Dave and wheels move in granite. House flaps.0
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My thoughts are with the family and friends of Frederiek Nolf. Any loss of life at such a young age is always tragic.0
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I see velonews is already reporting Micheal barry's diary and how good it is meeting Mercx...I'd leavew this trivia out...the Tour of Quatar has had a tragedy and the tone, the reporting need to reflect that...sure race today...but business as usual just seems too fast to me0
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God bless him.0
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skavanagh.bikeradar wrote:Absolutely Don Key, as I like to say when I think of it - Jam and bearings make Dave and wheels move in granite. House flaps.
Why you trying to make sense? not a patch on Paddy, aru?0 -
paddlemyowncanoe wrote:Save the mawkishness condolence crap. I bet anyone on here that his haematocrit was not south of 50%.
So what? Did he deserve to die for it? It's only a bike race FFS.0
