Drug Testing: Rugby players beyond reproach...???
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I must say it isn't. I believe the said person was challenged over drug use but strenuously denied it despite having clearly turned into a fella. I'm sure I will remember, it's just annoying when you can't find it and then you get a bee in your bonnet!0
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I'm pretty sure "she" was a cyclist, can't remember the name but its been posted a few timesPlanet X N2A
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colint wrote:
That is is. Thanks a lot Colint.
That picture reminds me of waking up the morning after a few two many beers.....
I'll get my coat...0 -
Fatima Whitbread????0
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What about the Czech 'woman' 400m runner from the 80's - Kratochvilova?All Road/ Gravel: tbcWinter: tbcMTB: tbcRoad: tbc"Look at the time...." "he's fallen like an old lady on a cruise ship..."0
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Thats my link !0
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cougie wrote:Thats my link !
Sorry, I'm at work and couldn't access yours.
Thanks anyway though Cougie!0 -
Not just in rugby...
Very interesting article here about doping in baseball.
http://www.slate.com/id/2210814/0 -
For the record, I have a good friend who currently plays in a mid table premiership outfit that has a number of representatives in the England set up. He tells me that there is very little use of PED's as its simply not the culture in English rugby. When I've quizzed him on it he's said its just not the done thing. The players spend most of their time eating and training in the gym and thats where the bulk comes from. No doubt they get plenty of protein shakes and other over the counter beefcake agents down their neck but in terms of EPO and 'roids. Its just not part of the culture. Oh, and this is someone I know very well so rest assured he's not deceiving me. Plus, he's a switched on guy with a PHD and plans to be a surgeon when he retires so he's not just being naive. Also, as anybody who knows the culture of a rugby team knows, everyone knows everything about each other so I doubt there are many secrets in the changing rooms.0
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because having a PHD automatically makes you immune from being naive0
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I think most players are doing it right. But this doesn't explain the freakish changes in some players, you can see their faces change during their career, new bone growth on the jaw, forehead and chin for example. This just doesn't come from an extra Shredded Wheat in the bowl.Heavymental wrote:For the record, I have a good friend who currently plays in a mid table premiership outfit that has a number of representatives in the England set up. He tells me that there is very little use of PED's as its simply not the culture in English rugby. When I've quizzed him on it he's said its just not the done thing. The players spend most of their time eating and training in the gym and thats where the bulk comes from. No doubt they get plenty of protein shakes and other over the counter beefcake agents down their neck but in terms of EPO and 'roids. Its just not part of the culture. Oh, and this is someone I know very well so rest assured he's not deceiving me. Plus, he's a switched on guy with a PHD and plans to be a surgeon when he retires so he's not just being naive. Also, as anybody who knows the culture of a rugby team knows, everyone knows everything about each other so I doubt there are many secrets in the changing rooms.0 -
I reckon that the reason cycling gets the worst of the press is because professional cyclists perform to levels far beyond what is considered normal. I reckon if I rode my motorbike over the long stages of the tour I would need to get off to refuel and probably want another stop to stretch and have a cup of tea.
Most people can imagine training to kick a ball harder, run faster jump higher but for some people it is inconceivable that someone could propel themselves 200km a day for three weeks at a time without some type of super drug that is not available to regular athletes.
Seems to happen all the time in sports. I seem to remember seeing some doubting articles after that dominating swimmer looked so far ahead of the rest at the olympics.
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I can accept that there may well be no culture of drug taking in rugby, but in any competitive environment there will always be people prepared to take a risk to get ahead.
I doubt they would tell anyone about it - but there must be a few in each club. Big rewards are there for the taking.0 -
camerone wrote:because having a PHD automatically makes you immune from being naive
I knew someone would say something like that :roll: The point I was trying to make is that I know the guy, and he isn't naive. Some modern rugby guys are just cabbages who train, watch tv, knock sht out of the opposition at the weekend and don't have a clue whats going on in the dressing room.0 -
Heavymental wrote:camerone wrote:because having a PHD automatically makes you immune from being naive
I knew someone would say something like that :roll: The point I was trying to make is that I know the guy, and he isn't naive. Some modern rugby guys are just cabbages who train, watch tv, knock sht out of the opposition at the weekend and don't have a clue whats going on in the dressing room.
Interesting that you say "English" clubs, because it's not like Rugby Union has a particularly clean slate on the UK Sport list of closed cases for 2007/08 and 2008/09. The simple facts are that the 6 Nations will be doing something like 2 urine samples per match and no blood work, so how can they say "there is no problem" after doing blood tests at the World Cup that fall into the hospital ball category they were so well signalled?
The answer is that rugby seems to be quite happy to turn a blind eye to it. And if some players are cabbages then they are prime candidates for doping.0 -
it's not like Rugby Union has a particularly clean slate on the UK Sport list of closed cases
Indeed.
Last year Rugby Union had more positive tests than Athletics, Football and Cycling combined.0 -
"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Are the Union rugby players from the 3 home nations not signed up to a British Sports council drugs prog,
Over here all Players(including non-nationals) under contract to the Union and club players have to follow the Sports Council Prog which is based on WADA as its all tied to Gov Sports grants.Gov grant towards development of Landsdowne Rd was tied to this.
(Please no Horse and Drugs comments)Go neiri on bothar leat.0 -
This is one way of getting to grips with the problem.
In New York, they are charging a doctor for proscribing steroids to bodybuilders - one of his 'clients' died.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/11/nyreg ... f=nyregion
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/17/nyreg ... ilder.html0
