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It depends whether it was the hard way round or the easy way round...
If it was the easy way round then I managed it on an 88" fixed gear, and you need to MTFU big time.
If it was the hard way round then I have no frame of reference...
Oh and we don't have a runway at home... I was referring to the airfield where we're based.0 -
@TN, I know Clever Pun was joking, he better be or I may challenge and beat him at an arm wrestle. I will be going back to Richmond Park to reclaim my pride.lost_in_thought wrote:It depends whether it was the hard way round or the easy way round...
If it was the easy way round then I managed it on an 88" fixed gear, and you need to MTFU big time.
Hard way round, I wasn't expecting the hill.Oh and we don't have a runway at home... I was referring to the airfield where we're based.
I was only joking about this. I actually admire successful people (I'm not one of those "poor folk" who has never tried in life and am bitter at all those who have) even though I may poke fun.
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lost_in_thought wrote:I was referring to the airfield where we're based.
Even further off topic.
Is this the Top Gear track? I ask because you mention filming for TG in another thread.
Back to OP
Interesting thread, I always thought 'compact' referred to the gears. :oops: I see some bikes referred to as 'Sportive' bikes, is there something different about the geometry of these bikes?
Also how much efficiency (?) or speed is lost on a cyclocross bike v a straight road bike. (i'm thinking Tricross v Allez)
Back to beat DDD up tangent
Don't forget if you spend £3k + on a new bike and still can't get up a hill, all hope is lost and the darkness of reality will set in. Best keep the current bike and believe.“New York has the haircuts, London has the trousers, but Belfast has the reason!0 -
DonDaddyD wrote:Clever Pun wrote:
I think I missed that start of this... did you get off the bike and walk DDD?? did you really? did a small child on a trike scalp you?
if I couldn't make it for whatever reason I would bl00dy well got back and make sure I made it at some point with the same bike to prove to myself I could do it... then ride a cr@ppier up it to train harder
Hang on a sec, did I wake up in an alternate reality where its ok to gang up on DonDaddyD!?
This is why I walk uphill alone.
fixed that for you
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WheezyMcChubby wrote:lost_in_thought wrote:I was referring to the airfield where we're based.
Even further off topic.
Is this the Top Gear track? I ask because you mention filming for TG in another thread.
If this is true. Please please please please please please please please please please LiT, I know I get on your nerves sometimes (possibly all the time) but please please please please please please please please hold an SCR race around it.....
In fact assuming that said airfield is a strip or lap, would you ever hold SCR races on it?
Just asking is all....Interesting thread, I always thought 'compact' referred to the gears. :oops: I see some bikes referred to as 'Sportive' bikes, is there something different about the geometry of these bikes?
According to Cycling plus Sportive guide a Sportive bike is a road bike with a slightly more relaxed geometry. I.e. They tend to have a longer headtube giving the rider a more upright riding position. The difference between a Giant SCR/Defy (Sportive) and Giant TCR (race intended bike).
Back to beat DDD up tangent
Don't forget if you spend £3k + on a new bike and still can't get up a hill, all hope is lost and the darkness of reality will set in. Best keep the current bike and believe.[/quote]
I can get up the darn hill. This Sat/Sun I'm going to prove it!Food Chain number = 4
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DonDaddyD wrote:WheezyMcChubby wrote:lost_in_thought wrote:I was referring to the airfield where we're based.
Even further off topic.
Is this the Top Gear track? I ask because you mention filming for TG in another thread.
If this is true. Please please please please please please please please please please LiT, I know I get on your nerves sometimes (possibly all the time) but please please please please please please please please hold an SCR race around it.....
In fact assuming that said airfield is a strip or lap, would you ever hold SCR races on it?
Just asking is all....
It's not the top gear main track, that's Dunsfold http://www.dunsfoldpark.co.uk/
We are at Bentwaters http://www.bentwatersparks.com/index.html which is used occasionally for Top Gear stuntman.
I could ask the owners about holding cycle races... but I don't know that it would be an ideal venue.0 -
DonDaddyD wrote:lost_in_thought wrote:There's a lot of 'if' in there DDD!
If I was built like Victoria Pendleton instead of Victoria Wood I'd be a lot faster up hills.
I reckon you just want a new bike to put on your new wheels... in which case go for it! Use the SCR for commuting and buy a weekend Wilier!
You know you want to... :twisted:
Its already a done deal. The only thing stopping me is that in my heart I know I'm not good enough for a Wilier Izoard....
Fcuk that, I've got a BMC and i'm sh1te. I haven't even ridden it yet (promachine top spec). As my mate says bikes are basically instruments of pain so it's best to have distractions such as ridiculous expense
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lost_in_thought wrote:I could ask the owners about holding cycle races... but I don't know that it would be an ideal venue.
You don't have to LiT's you've already done more for SCR and this little community than anyone.
But if you do. It's gonna be war on bikes.... :twisted:Food Chain number = 4
A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game0 -
I'm way too pants to merit the Focus but I love it anyway. This thread is great in a way as every single person agrees that a top bike will go faster and every single person agrees there is one hell of a diminishing return with each £100 you spend.0
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biondino wrote:I'm way too pants to merit the Focus but I love it anyway. This thread is great in a way as every single person agrees that a top bike will go faster and every single person agrees there is one hell of a diminishing return with each £100 you spend.
I agree
I think that everyone as agrees (me included) that I'm so fat and rubbish that the diminishing return is doubled in my case...
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A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game0 -
flattythehurdler wrote:I've got a BMC and i'm sh1te. I haven't even ridden it yet (promachine top spec).
Chapeau! You are an example to us all!0 -
Sewinman wrote:DonDaddyD wrote:
This is why I ride alone.
If you want to try not doing so I would be pleased to ride RP this weekend. I can just make it up the hard hill...and i mean just. I normally go the other way.
I want to, but bombast and boasting aside. I actually don't want to embarass myself. You saw how slow I was... that wasn't choice.
I mean I will go and meet up just being honest. :oops:
I've already shamed myself with Greg66 and again with Bassjunkie on the way back from FreewheelFood Chain number = 4
A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game0 -
DonDaddyD wrote:Sewinman wrote:DonDaddyD wrote:
This is why I ride alone.
If you want to try not doing so I would be pleased to ride RP this weekend. I can just make it up the hard hill...and i mean just. I normally go the other way.
I want to, but bombast and boasting aside. I actually don't want to embarass myself. You saw how slow I was... that wasn't choice.
I mean I will go and meet up just being honest. :oops:
I've already shamed myself with Greg66 and again with Bassjunkie on the way back from Freewheel
Well, I got dropped by the other three that were in the park, so I am slow. It is easier with another cyclist too. Anyway, I will post it up in the proper thread later in the week.0 -
Argh! 3 1/2 pages in one day :-) Excellent thread mind you even tho it went a bit OT!
The thing I'm thinking about now is can I earn enough brownie points with the wife over the next few days to get over to RP for a ride this weekend! I'll have to check in on the correct thread for an estimated meetup time as I haven't ridden round there yet and being a bit of a sadist want to try the "hard" route............
For the expensive bike argument the way I look at it that I'm fairly quick on my SCR and would love to see just how much faster or what kind of difference could be made by different equipment, so I guess much like DDD cycling has become one of my hobbies and I'm an eager learner! I read the reviews in Cycling Plus and articles on the main site here and would love to have the finances to get a new steed but unfortunately for me family comes first so I'm going to have to get by with incremental improvements of the SCR rather then a full replacement - besides scalping expensive looking bikes is SO much more satisfying :-D0 -
What you all have to do is convince the lads with the expensive bikes to come along too. Do a lap on your own bike then swap for a lap on the posh ones!Cannondale F500
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UnworthyPapaLazaru wrote:What you all have to do is convince the lads with the expensive bikes to come along too. Do a lap on your own bike then swap for a lap on the posh ones!
Sounds like a good idea, but I'm not that blessed in the height department so I suspect there would be much saddle adjustment to do! Besides I'd also need a posh bike with SPD's to get a proper feel for it........0 -
lost_in_thought wrote:It depends whether it was the hard way round or the easy way round...
If it was the easy way round then I managed it on an 88" fixed gear, and you need to MTFU big time.
If it was the hard way round then I have no frame of reference...
Oh and we don't have a runway at home... I was referring to the airfield where we're based.
which is which? i've allways gone clockwise...0 -
Bassjunkieuk wrote:Argh! 3 1/2 pages in one day :-) Excellent thread mind you even tho it went a bit OT!
The thing I'm thinking about now is can I earn enough brownie points with the wife over the next few days to get over to RP for a ride this weekend! I'll have to check in on the correct thread for an estimated meetup time as I haven't ridden round there yet and being a bit of a sadist want to try the "hard" route............
For the expensive bike argument the way I look at it that I'm fairly quick on my SCR and would love to see just how much faster or what kind of difference could be made by different equipment, so I guess much like DDD cycling has become one of my hobbies and I'm an eager learner! I read the reviews in Cycling Plus and articles on the main site here and would love to have the finances to get a new steed but unfortunately for me family comes first so I'm going to have to get by with incremental improvements of the SCR rather then a full replacement - besides scalping expensive looking bikes is SO much more satisfying :-D
I've thought it many times and I'll say it again. Given the fact he was ahead of us and already started powering along the Mall seeing you chase down Biondino at Freewheel - when we bumped into him - you would benefit the most from an uber bike. In fact I would love to see you on a uber bike!
You are very quick and great at sprinting/spinning. I don't think you realised how much you chased him down by, I was behind you both and amazed it was like he never even started. I'm being deadly serious here, no bombast or exaggeration. Credit where credit is due.Food Chain number = 4
A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game0 -
Cheers dude, that was fun on the run down the mall, especially as I got caught napping and admiring the Focus! I think it was the extra face fluff that made me wary of if it was BD at first!
Also while I think about it, get that BB replaced! Mine was creaking something rotten too a while back (well before the service that kept me and it separated for 3 weeks...........) and even more so when going up hills where I was putting quite a lot of force down! Dever's ended up replacing it during the service - should only cost about £25 for a new unit plus fitting unless you have the tools (or someone is feeling generous!) to DIY :-)0 -
Bassjunkieuk wrote:UnworthyPapaLazaru wrote:What you all have to do is convince the lads with the expensive bikes to come along too. Do a lap on your own bike then swap for a lap on the posh ones!
Sounds like a good idea, but I'm not that blessed in the height department so I suspect there would be much saddle adjustment to do! Besides I'd also need a posh bike with SPD's to get a proper feel for it........
I have a posh bike with SPDs and perfect for a shortar$e, BJUK - I'll let you know when I finally make it up to RP one Sunday.....Emerging from under a big black cloud. All help welcome0 -
@DDD changing your BB is one of the easier and cheaper upgrades, I've done a fair few now. If your going do the upgrade path then why not add some bling to your bike in the process http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=33554
Mmmm Gold Chris King BB
Edit: if you don't want to spend that kind of money, then a Dura Ace 7900 BB is only £24 or Hope ceramic for £75Rule #5 // Harden The Feck Up.
Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
Rule #12 // The correct number of bikes to own is n+1.
Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.0 -
Greg66 wrote:flattythehurdler wrote:I've got a BMC and i'm sh1te. I haven't even ridden it yet (promachine top spec).
Chapeau! You are an example to us all!
I can't wait to showthis to my wife and my mother. They will be so proud.Dan0 -
A fancy bike wont make you go faster, it'll make it easier to go faster.
The only things that'll make you go faster is power and endurance..
so keep training...Purveyor of sonic doom
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DonDaddyD wrote:Bassjunkieuk wrote:Argh! 3 1/2 pages in one day :-) Excellent thread mind you even tho it went a bit OT!
The thing I'm thinking about now is can I earn enough brownie points with the wife over the next few days to get over to RP for a ride this weekend! I'll have to check in on the correct thread for an estimated meetup time as I haven't ridden round there yet and being a bit of a sadist want to try the "hard" route............
For the expensive bike argument the way I look at it that I'm fairly quick on my SCR and would love to see just how much faster or what kind of difference could be made by different equipment, so I guess much like DDD cycling has become one of my hobbies and I'm an eager learner! I read the reviews in Cycling Plus and articles on the main site here and would love to have the finances to get a new steed but unfortunately for me family comes first so I'm going to have to get by with incremental improvements of the SCR rather then a full replacement - besides scalping expensive looking bikes is SO much more satisfying :-D
I've thought it many times and I'll say it again. Given the fact he was ahead of us and already started powering along the Mall seeing you chase down Biondino at Freewheel - when we bumped into him - you would benefit the most from an uber bike. In fact I would love to see you on a uber bike!
You are very quick and great at sprinting/spinning. I don't think you realised how much you chased him down by, I was behind you both and amazed it was like he never even started. I'm being deadly serious here, no bombast or exaggeration. Credit where credit is due.
So all the times you've complimented me for being swift along the Mall you were actually thinking "but he's been left for dead by that tattooed short fella"? I feel betrayed!!
(also, for the record, I never sprint hard on the Focus as I don't think the ease of unclipping with eggbeaters is designed for that kind of force and I'm nervous about accidentally slipping out of the pedals)0 -
biondino wrote:(also, for the record, I never sprint hard on the Focus as I don't think the ease of unclipping with eggbeaters is designed for that kind of force and I'm nervous about accidentally slipping out of the pedals)
doesn't that betray the point of having them if you're not 100% confident in their use? or is that you overly worrying?Purveyor of sonic doom
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It's more me overworrying and being concerned about my fallibility - would I twist my foot more when really sprinting, for example? But I don't race, so balls-out sprinting is never necessary, so the eggbeaters do a fine job and they more than make up for this potential (if unproven) downside with all their upsides.0
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biondino wrote:It's more me overworrying and being concerned about my fallibility - would I twist my foot more when really sprinting, for example? But I don't race, so balls-out sprinting is never necessary, so the eggbeaters do a fine job and they more than make up for this potential (if unproven) downside with all their upsides.
all for of them?
everyone races every morning... don't deny it.
I find buying expensive kit making you a target makes you faster too Purveyor of sonic doom
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Sewinman wrote:DonDaddyD wrote:What I don't disagree with is this: The law of diminishing returns. At some point the more you spend the less return for your money you're gonna get. But at £350 I don't think the law of diminishing returns has begun to work its magic.
However, we are talking sporting laps albeit around Richmond Common. And I'd hope that I'd be faster on your Focus than my SCR or the £1,250+ difference (carbon frame, wheels, tyres, durace groupset etc...) would all be for nothing.
IMHO your psychology is wrong, you are blaming a perfectly good bike on why you can't get up a hill. I think you would be better of practising some hills, getting the most out of your bike (miximum utility) - and then deciding what to upgrade to. You are no-where near the point of diminishing marginal utility from that bike.
Enjoying this thread very much. DDD you are going through many of the experiences I did after buying my first roadbike. (You want/need 2 bikes, accept it and get down the LBS). Soon you'll discover the joys of singlespeed and then you'll need 3 bikes, but at least SS generally pretty cheap.
Sewinman rather misses the point here. Those of us with rather pricey bikes are all well aware that spending £3k on an intensive training scheme would have made us faster and stronger than buying a £3k bike - but that's not the point. The point is the level of enjoyment we get from our shiny carbon steeds. I have a £800 Focus and a ££££ Pinarello - which bike gives me more pleasure - the Pinarello. It's a better bike but it doesn't make me a better cyclist, I knew it wouldn't when I bought it. It does give me hours of pleasure though and is beautiful to ride.
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biondino wrote:
So all the times you've complimented me for being swift along the Mall you were actually thinking "but he's been left for dead by that tattooed short fella"? I feel betrayed!! What an apt description, I think I'd prefer to be referred to as "compact" rather then short tho 
One of the things I love about this forum is the fact that we can draw on such a large pool of experience, we have the likes of me, DDD and SM with our cheap steeds and JA, G66 and BD with their carbon bling and I find it really helpful to get advice from people that I know and can actually put some trust in! It's much more informative then some random review!
JA - Your speaking of the enjoyment of the bike made me remember a video review I watched on Youtube from competitivecyclist.com, he likened the Prince to Richard Hammond driving the F1 car in Top Gear, he felt the bike was laughing at him as he couldn't get the bike up the hill as fast as he felt he should and then couldn't believe the decent he made on the other side!0
