Cadence training to metronomes?

Bhima
Bhima Posts: 2,145
I make loads of electronic music so I think i'm going to go home tonight and write a track around 90BPM so that I can practice spinning the cranks at 90RPM when training. Has anyone tried this?

How do you work out your most efficient cadence? Is it, simply, the most "comfortable" cadence, which you tend to work at naturally? I think i'll create a few minutes of metronome clicks around different tempos to try and work out which BPM/RPM is best for me, but is it possible that your ideal cadence can change, depending on how tired you are?

I'll post up some mp3s of metronomes on here if anyone's interested in trying it too...?

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  • What you really want is a max power test to determine you optimum power cadence, then look at a graph of HR vs. Cadence.
  • Infamous
    Infamous Posts: 1,130
    Just get a cadence computer?
  • Just ride. There's no such thing as an optimal cadence.

    But dedicated music tracks to train to are a good idea.
  • Just ride. There's no such thing as an optimal cadence.

    But dedicated music tracks to train to are a good idea.

    I have different music for a training ride than I do for recovery
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  • mclarent
    mclarent Posts: 784
    I listen to D&B when I'm on the turbo - high cadence fo sure!
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  • oldwelshman
    oldwelshman Posts: 4,733
    Just ride. There's no such thing as an optimal cadence.

    But dedicated music tracks to train to are a good idea.

    I have different music for a training ride than I do for recovery

    Why? Just ride same cadence on lower gears for recovery.
  • rb1956
    rb1956 Posts: 134
    I don't listen to music while riding or driving, because I find it distracting. I added a cadence-sensor to my comp a year or so ago, essentially because I am a nerd. I have no idea about my efficiency or optimum cadence, but my average for a ride always seems to be about 80rpm. My main goal in installing the sensor was to help me train myself to avoid mashing.
  • rb1956 wrote:
    I don't listen to music while riding or driving, because I find it distracting. I added a cadence-sensor to my comp a year or so ago, essentially because I am a nerd. I have no idea about my efficiency or optimum cadence, but my average for a ride always seems to be about 80rpm. My main goal in installing the sensor was to help me train myself to avoid mashing.
    On the road I agree but I think we are talking about indoor training, which those poor sods suffering a Nthn winter are dealing with at the mo'. :)
  • Punk is the answer dear boy!! Certainly good for cadence training on turbos!
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  • Well I have finally decided to move into the 21st century and have an ipod on order.
    It will spend its life in the dock station of the stereo unit I have in my training room. And if there's anyone else about, I can always put the earphones in.

    So will be on the hunt for good trainer music. there's a thread or two about that about the joint.... :D
  • Drumsmasher, do you smash drums?
    Are you related to Keith Moon? :lol:
  • Bhima
    Bhima Posts: 2,145
    mclarent wrote:
    I listen to D&B when I'm on the turbo - high cadence fo sure!

    Yeah, I tried that... it was just a little bit too high-energy though; made me go crazy on the cranks! :lol: I don't think i'll be trying that again! It's good for motivation in the gym though.
  • Bhima
    Bhima Posts: 2,145
    By the way, I tried metronomes but, man, was I wrong! Sure, it helps you stay focussed on a specific cadence for AGES, but it's extremely boring. The click drives you insane after a while, even if you have the click change over time or use a drumloop etc... I'm going to record some drumming along to the click, perhaps half an hour or so, to try and make the pulse more bearable. Training to it for a couple of hours has, however, made my cadence more steady on the road, similar to how drummers can get tighter from practicing to metronomes.
  • eh
    eh Posts: 4,854
    I've always used dodgy house/techno music or Linkin Park type stuff, which I expect are all a bit faster than I pedal/run but then I know what a fast or slow cadence feels like* and it is more for the motivation factor.

    *So much so that when I got a computer that could do cadence I could get it right to within about +/- 2. Lets face it, it isn't that hard to work out cadence roughly if you have a watch that counts seconds.