mah knees hurting!!
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As title really, my knees are hurting on the bike, well its mostly my right knee, I've tried putting more effort in with my left leg but it's very hard to do, anyway I don't know why it has started but it is annoying and means I cant push hard.
When I stand up and move my lower leg up and down I feel a click in the knee sort of.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Will.
When I stand up and move my lower leg up and down I feel a click in the knee sort of.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Will.
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Good luck!
Mine is improving but has been an issue now for about 3 months
'07 Tricross Sport with rack and guards
STUNNING custom 953 Bob Jackson *sigh*
I did not expect to have to see a GP about this one, I'm going to have to register with a doctor tomorrow. I in no way do not want to take time off the bike apart from the usual rest, my fitness will go down to drain and I don't want that I'm still recovering from having 2 weeks off the bike doing no exercise.
My usual rule of thumb with injuries is if it is only minorly annoying / sore then it is probably fine. If you get stabbing lancing pains etc that are close to what you can tolerate it isn't.
Having had recent knee problems that sounds similar to yours (left knee clicking, felt like it had pressure behind it when trying to straighten it and the muscle fibres just above the knee cap moved very rougly over each other), i found that it was better thinking about putting more through the sore knee... bizarre. Also I found the slow release ibuprofen to be much more use than regular stuff
I cant really tell what it feels like, I'd say not swollen, just clicked and their is this weird pain there, like not a pain I cant cope with, but It has just came along in the past couple of days.
I really like to thrash it about and usually accelerate madly from traffic lights and put allot of power down, wonder if that is what is causing it?
When my knees hurt (they're dodgy from running) I put a wine cooler wrapped in tea towel around them (the cooler is the type that opens up and seals with velcro).
When I stand my feet are more like in a duck position, like both of them pointing out and thats how I normally stand.
I spoke to a few people, read some articles on the net and adjusted my cleat position. That with the aid of some cod liver oil has seen my knee trouble vanish completely!!
Bianchi Via Nirone
So, my advice on cleats goes like this....
When setting up your cleats they should mimic your natural foot position when at rest, I set mine up by eye and feel after sitting on my kitchen worktop with my feet hanging down freely. I relax and let them settle just dangling, then take a quick photo(much better if someone else can take the photo for you), from the photo you often see one foot is at a different angle to the other, this is because each side of the body is different. Now I attach the cleats and clip the shoes into the pedals and transfer the position/angle of the shoe from the image onto the bike (another thing to do before finalising the cleat position is to get the ball of the foot over the pedal axle). For me my left foot is ‘ankle inwards’ while my right foot is ‘ankle slightly outwards’.
Other things to consider are saddle height, road and mtb’s are different due to the different front end heights/reach of the bars causing different amounts of rotation at the hip joints, so take this into account if you ride different bikes. Then there is also the horizontal crank position and thigh length, your knee should be more or less directly over the pedal axle when the crank is horizontal.
I tried to keep it short.
If unsure though I would ring around a few shops and ask if they have staff that can advise you on this, and remember, never make lots of adjustments in one go, always make gradual adjustments or you could cause an injury...
Even after reading the above I'm still unsure.
Standing isn't good as you are unlikely to put your feet in a natural position straight off therefore you are unlikely to get a meaningful picture.
Do as was suggested and sit on the end of something and let your feet dangle for a minute or so to allow them to fully relax and then take the photo (ie have the camera in your lap before you start
then take a photo stood up or with them dangling?
Whilst dangling and fully relaxed.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/ ... 0030-1.jpg
top pic is standing up just incase, middle is dangling.
and the bottom pic done suppose that shows anything into my position? Also are knees supposed to be redder than the rest of your leg? sorry for the bottom pic I did it for another forum when you had to post a body part for their bday
I found it helps and only 7 quid.
I'm hoping it'll fix itself before the weekend, not doing any cycling apart from the 3 mile there and 3 mile back commute from college where I am now mainly using my left leg for power now.
It really depends on how you have your cleats setup at the min. If you have them setup on both sides the same and in such a way that your feet point outwards (or heels inwards which is the same thing) then your left foot would be correctly setup therefore that could explain why you suffer no pain in your left foot but do in your right however I think the pics are really hard to tell anything with. The bottoms get in the way of seeing the foot properly though I would agree with Tempestas that it would appear that you are toes out on the left and rather straight on in the right foot though as I say it is difficult to be sure.
Basically put your bike next to a wall, climb on, clip in and look down. What way are your feet pointing when you are clipped in? Try and replicate what you see in the phot with what you have on the bike. Depending on the cleats you may be able to twist them slightly left or right to give your foot more angle if required in order to get you the position you want.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/20/healt ... .html?_r=1
Personally, i'd always go to a physio with experience of cycling rather than a doctor. My physio recommended me a few simple exercises which have definitely helped my knees.
Do you work for free? :shock:
Obviously Physio's cost money ( hopefully I dont have to explain why )...but it will be cheaper than seeing a doctor and then a physio and in the long run you might save your knee from serious damage
Go and see someone
How much are physios?
She also picked up a problem I'd had with my left knee (which wasn't what I was actually there for) since I hurt it in a fall 2 1/2 years previously that had left it with reduced flexibility and prone to a pain very similar to what you are describing. After some exercises etc. that she recommended it's much, much better and has full range of movement, no pain etc. such that this winter I've started racing cyclocross! Not that I'm any good, but I don't think I would have been physically capable before.
Cheers,
Steve
Would it be safe to say those are the 2 things that are most likely causing my problem? I try to warm up but I'd not say I am good at warming up.
I'm going to have to get my left knee checked out now too, today it has also started with similar symptoms to my right knee, I am hoping it is just swelling but it does not help that the whole of the right side of my upper right leg (quads?) is aching when I tense it up, must have pulled it today.