jimycooper Posts: 740
edited November 2008 in The bottom bracket
i was cycling down a B road near horsham today, it was supprisingly quiet, a car came from behind me. there wasnt anything on the other side of the raod so it was clear for him to overtake. when he came to overtake he didnt move out 1 inch. his wing mirror shashed into my censored at what must of been at least 60mph in a 40mph zone. managed to stay on my bike, just.
it is increadible how inconsiderate some people can be when driving.
it is increadible how inconsiderate some people can be when driving.
Thats leaving the scene of an RTA and its an offence. Did you get any plates, or go to the police?
i was badly shaken up after that and nervous about going out again. i will next week
Same here. There's a double white line stretch on my way home from work, I sit far enough out from the road, that they have to cross to get past. I don't give them the option of staying in the lane.
As for the OP though, thats just crazy, and I hope you get back on the road soon and it doesn't happen again.
Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Irony that would be lost on most motorists, if you hit their wing mirrors while filtering, they expect you stop and offer a full and frank apology, otherwise you'll be chased by them or someone else and forced to give one.
In the reverse we rarely have a chance to do so if the miscreant decides to censored off at speed. Good argument for a helmet cam.
If you ride into someones wing mirror while filtering (or more correctly barging your way through gaps which aren't big enough) you should apologise and pay for any damage.
Motorists and cyclists are not two distinct groups. They are both just people, some of whom are stupid and inconsiderate regardless of their choice of transport.
Well, yes, obviously.
Except that I've very nearly be taken out by motorists more than once, and had the bejesus scared out of me as a result. I've never once yet had a driver apologise to me for their driving dangerously, that put me at risk, they've all just sped off. That would include the ones that overtake with an inch to spare, run red lights, go down streets the wrong way and drive at you in those narrow streets even when you do have right of way and were on your side of the road, ignore you when pulling out of side streets, left hook you, overtake and then cut in, or even just overtake and then PARK.
So forgive me if I don't see knocking someone's wing mirror to be in the category of heinous crimes, I've had worse directed at me.
I've had a few occurances where I've wonderded if its worth it so I know how youfeel. You just have to remember - why should YOU give up your hobby or commute because someone cant drive.
Helmetcam has been mentioned again, lol. I suppose its worth remembering that most of them dont work well in the dark or at dusk. Shame you couldnt get anything.
but only if bike is doing less than 10mph
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I'm also up for vigilante justice, if someone does this to me then they'll get what's coming to them
....so, if the pedal cycle, horse or road maintenance vehicle is travelling at LESS than 10mph, then (by inference) you must NOT overtake.....
So far, mirror count = 0
FCN 8 off road because I'm too old to go racing around.
I wasn't commenting on you been hit by car mirror. Obviously that driver should've stopped and checked you were OK / apologised.
I was only commenting on the fact that you seem to think it is OK to clip someones car whilst filtering and then ride off without apologising on the basis that 'car drivers' don't apologise to you. That's hardly going to improve relationships on the road is it?
FWIW, I had a motorbike written off by a woman who drove into me while turning out of a junction. Exchanged details and all that, but:
1) No apology.
2) No offer of assistance, wrecked bike etc by the road was my problem. She was in a hurry.
3) Details given were correct, but she then moved house and took a holiday. Took an extra 3 months to sort out.
4) She was more concerned that her insurance would go up than anything else!
That was a month after another dimwit nudged me at another intersection, what with arriving at it fast then braking too late, he thought my waving a fist at him was funny.
So yes you are absolutley bleeding correct, ramming mirrors, which I certainly don't make a habit of (and I didn't say I have been hit by one, just had a lot of near misses) is not good for relationships.
But there are a heck of a lot of really bad drivers out there who won't give a toss in reverse for the consequences of their behaviour, like the HGV driver who nearly hit a work collegue with his mirrors. On challenged the response was that he missed, didn't he? have you ever challenged some motorist for their bad driving?
From my own point of view, I'm interested in causing damage to other peoples vehicles, to slowing them down unnecessarily and so on, it would be nice if the desire for 'good relationships' extended likewise in the other direction.
But I'm not holding my breath in expectation....
Other way round, if they are travelling at MORE than 10 Mph you may NOT overtake.
That's the only mistake I've made since I started cycling (which was not that long ago), but in that short time, I have been run off the road, almost hit, cut up, and just generally belittled numerous times by drivers.
The two most serious incidents were a guy who overtook me at speed, then immediately pulled in in front of me, forcing me to swerve around him, and nearly fall off, and a guy in a huge red SUV who decided while overtaking me, to begin drifting over to the left, effectively forcing me into the curb. My pedal grounded out on the curb, and I had to stop and get off the road.
I'm ahead like 10-1 in the guilt stakes in just a year of cycling. I don't hear many horror stories from drivers about cyclists like this. Just the occasional "they shouldn't be on the road anyway, because they don't pay road tax" or "they're too hard to see", which are actually just excuses for their own bad judgement.
A farm worker that cycles to work on my commute route every day wears a loose fitting flo yellow cape. When I first saw it I thought `what a plonker' but later i realised why he did it because I have to give him a very wide berth when overtaking.
Phychologically you perceive him as being a lot wider than he really is. Smart eh!?
I think the helmet cam is going to turn things around for us cyclists eventually . :roll:
Felt really guilty for it for ages but after a while realised the van driver's aggro caused it. Mind you I had no means to pay for the damage.
I still have no idea why he decided to A: Insist on his having the right of way when I probably had it anyway, or B: Felt that anybody had to have right of way, since there was plenty of room for both of us to pass.
Sometimes I think it's just vindictiveness.
Can we fix it?
Yes we can!
This was something that used to peeve me no end. A driver giving 3-4 feet clearance to cars he is going around, while giving me 2 feet of gutter, and when I have right of way anyhow?
Some drivers get really agressive and scream obscenities and toot their horns at other drivers . Most of the really bad ones are actually in the 40+ range :roll: :shock: