Etape 2009
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There are a few Etape routes posted already.
http://www.mapmyrun.com/run/france/montelimar/507123722429383350
A quick search on "Etape Du Tour 2009" and you can find a few people who've broken it down stage by stage.0 -
So, I have a number (8377 - I'll be drafting the balai from the off).
Now I just need to sort somewhere to stay. Which isn't proving easy..!0 -
You'll be next to me and the mrs - we'll draft you then
try formule 1 motel in bollene - about 45 km. Im in the one 20km to north but thats def full
So, I have a number (8377 - I'll be drafting the balai from the off).
Now I just need to sort somewhere to stay. Which isn't proving easy..!0 -
Cheers weeve, I'll have a look.
I shall be chasing down a couple of clubmates and sitting resolutley on their wheels all day (well, at least until it starts going uphil...).0 -
Number 8346 calling - behind all of you!
This is my first etape - am really worried about sag waggon. Are there fixed elimination points or is it a devil takes the hindmost business? am particularly worried about early puncture sending months of preparation down drain.
(I did a 170K 3K ascent sportive last weekend in 7.20 is this fast enough?)0 -
Alun - both is the answer.
That sort of time and climbing ought to be fine. It's certainly quicker than I could cover the same..!0 -
At last I have a number 6439
Now have the fear .......0 -
9364 for me, so right at the back of the pack. I'll be having nightmares about the broom wagon breathing down my neck from the off : )0
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I believe it playfully nudges the back wheels of the tail-end charlies while blowing its horn. Much like the truck in "Duel"
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I've heard they're being more Eco this year and having a horse-drawn broom wagon...
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my first Etape and number 3849 which I'm very happy with!0
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I don't know if this has been mentioned before but the riders include Erik Zabel, green jersey winner, and Dutchman Steven Rooks, the King of the Mountains from 1988.0
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spending a bit of time looking at the route and the cut offs etc tonight - are you all working in kms in advance of Etape and on the day? Or do you do as I do and work in miles? Is it even important? Do we get signs up on the route in km?0
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There were signs (in km obviously!) on the ascents last year, but I don't recall them more generally.0
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Rapha's survey of the route has been posted: http://www.rapha.cc/the-elusive-prize
They say no km markers on the Ventoux.0 -
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superb information KingstonWheeler - I've had a very quick peruse but will be studying that in depth later on this evening. Chugging along on flatter roads is just my thing! Then there's ventoux - it's going to be amazing. I went on a ride this morning and kept thinking that in five weeks, I'll be riding along the roads in France.
for anyone who is interested, I made a little profile sheet on my blog http://giantonabike.blogspot.com/2009/0 ... lysis.html
it has food stops marked on, elimination points etc I'm going to have it laminated and in my back pocket on the day.0 -
Yep, always work in KMs, even in the UK. If I want to know the miles, I do the usual conversion (divide by 8, multiply by 5) - it's a nice distraction when suffering on a climb.
I don't recall KM markers anywhere on the 2007 route. All I do recall were the signs indicating the beginning of a col, and those at the summit.
While the routecard provides all the useful info, my intention is to tape a small amount of info the bars/stem - the start km for each climb and how long it is and additional water points.
Oh, and I'll be selfishly sitting in the groups at all available opportunities. For me, being a real non-climber, it's not going to be a day of group engine heroics. A steady ride for the first 150 km and then a long hard slog for the Géant.0 -
Hi all
Check you are definitely in the right category for your age group and gender.
I've been listed as Category A, although (given that I'm female) think I should be in Category F. I've just emailed the travel company to see if they can get it corrected.
Popette, I've just looked you up, and have a feeling yours might not be right either. Apologies if I've got this wrong, but I thought women were in Category F or G, and you seem to be listed as B.
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popette wrote:for anyone who is interested, I made a little profile sheet on my blog http://giantonabike.blogspot.com/2009/0 ... lysis.html
it has food stops marked on, elimination points etc I'm going to have it laminated and in my back pocket on the day.
popette, I'm interested and I'm not even doing l'etape. i love it - how did you do that?
it looks like a mapmyride elevation profile, but how did you add in the other labels across the top?0 -
Thanks for the work on the breakdown Popette, very useful.
A few stupid questions here.
I presume the elimination time is when the broomwagon is expected at that point? What happens at an Elimination point?
While all of this info is very useful, and believe me no one has analysed it as much as I have, I reckon we need to be careful of analysis paralasys. I'm sure most of us have the training done (although from your blog Popette I suspect your husband may be a little behind!) and we probably wont have to worry too much about elimination. We must remember to enjoy the day, smell the flowers on the way through, enjoy the scenary and the crowds. The pain, we know will come after 150kms.
Can't wait now.0 -
avoidingmyphd wrote:popette wrote:for anyone who is interested, I made a little profile sheet on my blog http://giantonabike.blogspot.com/2009/0 ... lysis.html
it has food stops marked on, elimination points etc I'm going to have it laminated and in my back pocket on the day.
popette, I'm interested and I'm not even doing l'etape. i love it - how did you do that?
it looks like a mapmyride elevation profile, but how did you add in the other labels across the top?
hey thanks avoidingmy phd!
Yeh, it's map my ride - just added the text in photoshop. Glad you like it :-)0 -
Road Red wrote:Thanks for the work on the breakdown Popette, very useful.
A few stupid questions here.
I presume the elimination time is when the broomwagon is expected at that point? What happens at an Elimination point?
While all of this info is very useful, and believe me no one has analysed it as much as I have, I reckon we need to be careful of analysis paralasys. I'm sure most of us have the training done (although from your blog Popette I suspect your husband may be a little behind!) and we probably wont have to worry too much about elimination. We must remember to enjoy the day, smell the flowers on the way through, enjoy the scenary and the crowds. The pain, we know will come after 150kms.
Can't wait now.
I could be wrong and I'm sure there are loads out there more knowledgeable than me, but it looked last year like the timing car was going at a rate in line with the timings shown on the etape website - just as you said. My guess is that if it caught you were would be asked to stop - I didn't see this happening though as I was stood at an elimination point when the broom wagon arrived. At the elimination point at the bottom of hautacam, the road was blocked by gendarmes and you weren't allowed to go any further if you hadn't already gone past at the elimination time. My husband missed it by a matter of minutes last year. He was similarly prepared last year - perhaps a little more so.
I think you're right about elimination. I feel that I've done enough to avoid it provided I don't have a bike problem on the day. I intend to soak it all up on the day - even the pain of Ventoux.
Can I ask about pumps - I have a mini pump which is crap. I'm going to change - either going for a bigger one or co2 (not used before). What do you carry? What happens if you have more than 2 punctures and only have 2 co2? start begging?0 -
I have a mini, which will get the job done but very hard to get the pressure up. I carried a CO2 for the first time on Sunday. Didn't have to use it but I will certainly have a couple of refills with me on the day. Lots of good info on the forum if you do a search under CO2. I think its worth it for the peace of mind if nothing else.
On the Dragonride on Sunday Mavic were providing support. As well as the stationary units they had a car and a motorbike which were zooming up and down the course stopping and helping with punctures as and when. I presume it will be similar on the etape, though you need to have a bit of luck to have them pass when you need them.0 -
Can I ask about pumps - I have a mini pump which is crap. I'm going to change - either going for a bigger one or co2 (not used before). What do you carry? What happens if you have more than 2 punctures and only have 2 co2? start begging?
I got a Topeak C02 pump though it also has a manual pump all in one kind of thing. i had to use the c02 last weekend for the first time. tyre inflated immediately and right up to pressure. I don't think on a manual pump I'd have got close to the pressure and definately not the time saving.Tri Coaching
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Might not be appropriate to bring up next years event just as everyone is getting excited about 2009 but I was wondering if there is a mailing list you can subscribe to for information on when entries are open. Did you guys manage to get an entry only place or where you stung by having to buy one of the holiday packages?0
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we braved it out and refused to buy the package. They kept coming back offering us different packages until in the end they just gave us entry only. Probably a reflection on the current economy as much as anything else.0
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training almost finished just couple months after it started then - id done almost nothing for 18months due to knees surgery until the tilff-bastogne sportive (7:45) couple of weeks ago and then the Vatternrunden in sweden last friday. 300km (well 298..) round the lake, pretty flat, shite weather -damp and raining, bit windy, 10pm start after a week of work. Blah blah what a hero...ahem. The early starts get no-one to draft so I ploughed round with the Mrs in tow all night. She picked up a load of locals on her wheel who just sat there doing nothing despite some "encouragement" - her in quiet swedish and me in choice English...so finishing after 10hours we were right plum tuckered.
So now its back to work, TV evenings and stuffing the face with all the best training foods ..err... well not sure kitkats are that good but hey. Then its the Dartmoor sportive in a couple of weeks and thats it. Our Etape approach is going to be go fast from the beginning following her northern swedish 6'5 / 100kg brother (who Im sure will find a way past the crowds) while its not too hot - then dawdle up the hill at the end watching him melt...Im sure thats not the scientiific approach but going to be a right laugh and what can possibly go wrong
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