Puppies....and the infinite sadness.

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  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    linsen wrote:
    "better".....

    1. non-retracting claws
    2. don't walk on kitchen worktops
    3. consistent in their affections
    4. can run alongside a bike
    5. don't poo in other people's gardens
    6. they say woof. That's nice

    And so on. I have had both. We had to get rid of our cat because it attacked the dog. A German Shepherd Dog.....

    1. Claws that can't retract
    2. You have to bend down to stroke them
    3. Beg for food incessantly
    4. Chase bikes
    5. Poo in the middle of pavements, parks, your lawn, enormous poos, just quite staggering frequency and effecacy of poo
    6. Constantly barking

    I like them both. I'm just joshing. :wink:

    Cats are a bit like having a wild animal about the place which sometimes allows you to stroke it, sometimes demands some strokes and occasionally has a conversation with you, often pertaining to food or strokes.

    They also climb trees and occasionally run around frantically for no reason.
  • linsen
    linsen Posts: 1,959
    "A cat looks down upon a man, and a dog looks up to a man, but a pig will look a man in the eye and see his equal" Winston Churchill

    However, they do smell and are surely harder to housetrain....
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  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    Yes, cats come pre-housetrained. How cool is that?

    And they are self-cleaning and don't bring mud in the house.

    They also generate considerably less saliva and are apt to increase the acidity of soil to the detrement of rather fewer plants.

    When a cat jumps on the bed it is often possible to sleep through it.
  • linsen
    linsen Posts: 1,959
    ooh that reminds me of the time I woke up to find the cat on our bed. The friendly, flea-ridden, manky stray neighbourhood cat, that is........

    I've never woken up to find a stray dog on my bed.
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  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    linsen wrote:
    ooh that reminds me of the time I woke up to find the cat on our bed. The friendly, flea-ridden, manky stray neighbourhood cat, that is........

    I've never woken up to find a stray dog on my bed.

    Has your back door got a dog flap?
  • _Brun_
    _Brun_ Posts: 1,740
    You'll never find a cat that's terrified of cattle grids, yet is brave enough to fetch her favourite stick from the middle of one. Not like Nelly does anyway.

    I think being a cycling forum I'd expect most people here to prefer dogs. Cats seem more suited to people who like cars.
  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    I don't get that. Dogs love being in cars. Cats do not. They generate a whole new range of noises when subjected to a car.
  • linsen
    linsen Posts: 1,959
    Always Tyred wrote:
    linsen wrote:
    ooh that reminds me of the time I woke up to find the cat on our bed. The friendly, flea-ridden, manky stray neighbourhood cat, that is........

    I've never woken up to find a stray dog on my bed.

    Has your back door got a dog flap?

    No but our bedroom had a balcony.

    Another plus for dogs - they don't climb up the side of your house....
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  • _Brun_
    _Brun_ Posts: 1,740
    Always Tyred wrote:
    I don't get that. Dogs love being in cars. Cats do not. They generate a whole new range of noises when subjected to a car.
    Dogs don't like being in cars they just want to be outside, and being in a car is one step closer than being indoors. Anyway, I was thinking more along the lines of wanting to be out whatever the weather (like us lot/dogs), rather than warm and cosy (like... you get my point).
  • Slob-Sister
    Slob-Sister Posts: 13
    All the Cats I've ever had have been very affectionate and all have come when called. I've never understood the argument that Cats are aloof, unaffectionate, untrainable etc. Not in my experience. They are definitely low-maintenance when compared to a Dog.

    Dogs can be way more fun, Cats are more relaxing and serene.

    Having your socks stolen when you're late for work by daft Dog raises blood pressure.

    Stroking a Cat lowers blood pressure.

    Laughing immoderately at Partner when Dog steals his socks when he's late for work also lowers blood pressure. :lol:
  • dirk_van_gently
    dirk_van_gently Posts: 826
    No one owns a cat,
    They own you.
    If you see the candle as flame, the meal is already cooked.
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  • Littigator
    Littigator Posts: 1,262
    All animals RULE...apart from slugs maybe

    Behold...

    Excerpts from a Dog's Diary
    ==========================

    8:00 am - Dog food! My favourite thing!

    9:30 am - A car ride! My favourite thing!

    9:40 am - A walk in the park! My favourite thing!

    10:30 am - Got rubbed and petted! My favourite thing!

    12:00 pm - Lunch! My favourite thing!

    1:00 pm - Played in the yard! My favourite thing!

    3:00 pm - Wagged my tail! My favourite thing!

    5:00 pm - Milk bones! My favourite thing!

    7:00 pm - Got to play ball! My favourite thing!

    8:00 pm - Wow! Watched TV with the people! My favourite thing!

    11:00 pm - Sleeping on the bed! My favourite thing!

    Excerpts from a Cat's Diary

    ==========================

    Day 983 of my captivity.

    My captors continue to taunt me with bizarre little dangling objects.

    They dine lavishly on fresh meat, while the other inmates and I are fed hash or some sort of dry nuggets. Although I make my contempt for the rations perfectly clear, I nevertheless must eat something in order to keep up my strength. The only thing that keeps me going is my dream of escape. In an attempt to disgust them, I once again vomit on the carpet.

    Today I decapitated a mouse and dropped its headless body at their feet. I had hoped this would strike fear into their hearts, since it clearly demonstrates what I am capable of. However, they merely made condescending comments about what a 'good little hunter' I am. Bastards!

    There was some sort of assembly of their accomplices tonight. I was placed in solitary confinement for the duration of the event. However, I could hear the noises and smell the food. I overheard that my confinement was due to the power of 'allergies.' I must learn what this means, and how to use it to my advantage.

    Today I was almost successful in an attempt to assassinate one of my tormentors by weaving around his feet as he was walking. I must try this again tomorrow -- but at the top of the stairs.

    I am convinced that the other prisoners here are flunkies and snitches. The dog receives special privileges. He is regularly released - and seems to be more than willing to return. He is obviously retarded.

    The bird has got to be an informant. I observe him communicate with the guards regularly. I am certain that he reports my every move. My captors have arranged protective custody for him in an elevated cell, so he is safe.

    For now.
    Roadie FCN: 3

    Fixed FCN: 6
  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
  • linsen
    linsen Posts: 1,959
    Littigator - perfect!
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  • gtvlusso
    gtvlusso Posts: 5,112
    Dogs and cats can write Litigator?!....am I doing something wrong in puppy training? She is still crapping in the house and rolling in it...I feel like I have let her down now...
  • biondino
    biondino Posts: 5,990
    gtvlusso wrote:
    She is still crapping in the house and rolling in it...I feel like I have let her down now...

    I like dogs and do want a dog but if it EVER does this it's out. Puppy or no puppy.
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  • gtvlusso
    gtvlusso Posts: 5,112
    Biondino - suggest not getting a collie then - rather active!! She is okay, and she has realised that licking up wee and rolling in poo is bad news......toilet training is going well, but she makes the odd mistake...thank god for wood floors, wipe clean with bio washing powder mixed with water....breaks down any residue and the smell is "too clean" for dogs....(little tip there).

    Well worth it though - she is responding to her name, sit, down, no, hurry up (for toilet breaks) and get your toy....(surprisingly she will trot off and get a toy to play with).

    My mum would have been chuffed with me if I could do that at 8 weeks old!
  • Surf-Matt
    Surf-Matt Posts: 5,952
    gtv - that's good going! Slightly wierd "rolling in cr4p" thing but she's still very young so am sure it will wear off. Wait until they roll in fox/badger sh1t - ours did it once, got "jetwashed" (near enough) and has never done it again - it's GRIM!

    Suggest puppy classes if there are any locally - a real help in getting a well trained dog. Ours was doing pretty much everything within 6 weeks of going. Also know that collies need a lot of stimulation as well as exercise - they really enjoy being taught stuff.

    Like Labs, they need a LOT of exercise (collies get naughty without it, labs just get fat!) but mind her hips - collies aren't prone to problems but it's still easy to overdo the walking/running.
  • Slob-Sister
    Slob-Sister Posts: 13
    Very important not to give Puppies too much exercise!

    You can seriously affect their skeletal development by over-exercising pups. No more than a gentle 15 mins at a time (2 x a day) and definitely nothing strenuous like jogging, stair climbing etc.

    A few years ago I saw a middle aged couple walking a very tiny golden labrador pup for miles along a seafront. The pup was incredibly tired and kept sitting it's fat little bottom down, whereupon the man with the lead would pull it along again.

    To this day, I bitterly regret not telling him to take the pup home. I was too shy to say anything, but that puppy was really suffering. :cry:

    I wish people would at least read a few books before they get an animal (not talking about you OP, just in general).
  • Slob-Sister
    Slob-Sister Posts: 13
    biondino wrote:
    gtvlusso wrote:
    She is still crapping in the house and rolling in it...I feel like I have let her down now...

    I like dogs and do want a dog but if it EVER does this it's out. Puppy or no puppy.

    In that case, please don't get a dog of any kind. Neither you nor the Dog will be happy. A dog is for life, not for until you get fed up with it and decide to dump it/sell it/send it to rescue.
  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    I love collies. Best Dogs Ever.

    And yeah, rolling in badger - f@cking horrible. My Mum's terriers do it all the time and they stink.
  • biondino
    biondino Posts: 5,990
    The worst thing I have ever smelled in my life was a dog that rolled in dead seal.
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  • lost_in_thought
    lost_in_thought Posts: 10,563
    My collie is mad. Like actually properly mad, not just full of beans.

    We had one when we had a goat farm, to help my mum herd the goats, she was wonderful, chilled out, happy. Then she died and we got another, with a german shepherd as a friend. The second one was never worked, and is jittery and nervous, we think as a result.

    A recent national geographic article asserted that border collies are the most intelligent of dogs and require intellectual stimulation, ours is evidence of what can happen if they don't get that. She herds everything, cars, people, ducks, the other 4 dogs, you name it.

    We love her dearly, but she's a bit bonkers. And we feel pretty guilty about that.
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  • secretsam
    secretsam Posts: 5,120
    gtvlusso wrote:
    She is still crapping in the house and rolling in it...I feel like I have let her down now...

    Ah, dogs, such intelligent creatures.
    It's just a hill. Get over it.
  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    biondino wrote:
    The worst thing I have ever smelled in my life was a dog that rolled in dead seal.
    There has to be more to this story....
  • biondino
    biondino Posts: 5,990
    Not really. Walking a dog near The Wash, collecting samphire for dinner, and we see her rolling around in something which on closer inspection was just about recognisable as seal (deceased). I've never loved a dog more than this particular canine, but I couldn't even be in the same room as her for the rest of the holiday.
    My Focus / My Bob Jackson
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