The FIA are a bunch of boy loving mongos
The race yesterday was one of the best i have watched in a long time, Spa is always a good one and the amount of overtaking going on yesterday was great to watch. Up until about 8 last night when i spoke with a mate about it, it was the best race of the season (maybe second only to DC making the podium) I was blissfully unaware what had happened to the race results.
The FIA have shot themselves in the foot with this one, with Ferrari getting away with murder at the last race in the pits - not only massa nearly taking out sutil and getting away with it (a slap on the wrists and a fine) but raikonnen nearly topping one of his mechanics - it smacks a lot of favoritism, and wont stick well with the media or the general public. It will also get the wool-brained pc eejits going "ooooooh, racism"
What i saw yesterday was racing, and the FIA have peanalised a driver for doing so.
The way i see it - Hamilton goes for the pass into the bus stop, Raikonnen goes off line and is ultra defensive - which i think is acceptable, a driver is allowed to make a line change to defend a position, not sure of the legalities of doing it in a corner though - totally acceptable racing in my eyes, legal or not. Hamilton is faced with pulling out of the move and cutting the chicane or hitting raikonnen, he (sensibly) does the former. He then slows by 6km/h (from Mclaren telemetry) and lets raikonnen back through. Raikonnen then swerves about i imagine to break the slipstream hamilton has (which is illegal as far as im aware - 1 defensive move to block i thought?) Hamilton takes him under brakes in the next corner, raikonnen hits him, they both get away.
Good racing, good to watch.
The penalty imposed is ridiculous - it was racing and incidents like this happen - its the very reason places like the bus stop have a large run off - cutting the corner and giving the place back is a better alternative than piling into a wall.
I could go on, but this is turning into an essay rather than a rant, and i havent swore nearly enough for it to be in the soapbox. f**king c**ting motherf**ker. There.
The FIA have shot themselves in the foot with this one, with Ferrari getting away with murder at the last race in the pits - not only massa nearly taking out sutil and getting away with it (a slap on the wrists and a fine) but raikonnen nearly topping one of his mechanics - it smacks a lot of favoritism, and wont stick well with the media or the general public. It will also get the wool-brained pc eejits going "ooooooh, racism"
What i saw yesterday was racing, and the FIA have peanalised a driver for doing so.
The way i see it - Hamilton goes for the pass into the bus stop, Raikonnen goes off line and is ultra defensive - which i think is acceptable, a driver is allowed to make a line change to defend a position, not sure of the legalities of doing it in a corner though - totally acceptable racing in my eyes, legal or not. Hamilton is faced with pulling out of the move and cutting the chicane or hitting raikonnen, he (sensibly) does the former. He then slows by 6km/h (from Mclaren telemetry) and lets raikonnen back through. Raikonnen then swerves about i imagine to break the slipstream hamilton has (which is illegal as far as im aware - 1 defensive move to block i thought?) Hamilton takes him under brakes in the next corner, raikonnen hits him, they both get away.
Good racing, good to watch.
The penalty imposed is ridiculous - it was racing and incidents like this happen - its the very reason places like the bus stop have a large run off - cutting the corner and giving the place back is a better alternative than piling into a wall.
I could go on, but this is turning into an essay rather than a rant, and i havent swore nearly enough for it to be in the soapbox. f**king c**ting motherf**ker. There.
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This sort of thing does nothing for F1, and to have to have the drivers helped out becuase of a slight error from Hamilton, which he corrected by letting Kimi back through is a bit low.
I hope the FIA will apply a similar penatly to everyone who cuts the corner next time, whether or not the driver then reliquishes the position, but of course they won't as they are on a determined witch-hunt of McLaren (and that comes from a Ferrari fan).
So whilst he obeyed the rule, he didnt obey the spirit of the rule...
I think its a bit of a farce though, and its irrelevant as Kimi stuffed it into the wall all by himself a few corners later.
FIA/Ecclestone don't seem to want Hamilton to take the World Title, Eccelstone made it clear last year that this was the case when he was asked by Martin Brundle.
Whenever Ferrari is involved, they always seem to get the better result.
The penalty also makes no sense when looking at the events after the offence - hamilton spun and raikonnen went through who then binned it into the wall. Hamilton gained no advantage whatsoever from passing raikonnen when he did - the ruling is stupid if they dont take this into account.
The fact that there was a penalty is not my major gripe (although it is ridiculous) its the inconsistency in the enforcement of the rules. Massa should have been starting from 12th for his pitlane infraction at the last race with raikonnen getting at the very least a 10 place grid penalty for trying to kill his fuel man - it WAS kimis fault alone, no one else's, and was extremely dangerous. Hamilton pulling across the run off wasn't dangerous, infact it was the opposite - he was avoiding an avoidable accident - why does he get hit with a big penalty and yet both Ferrari drivers got away with much more dangerous maneuvers at the last race???
All this censored about gaining an advantage or leaving the track etc. Massa and Kubica were barely on the track during their battle on the final lap of Fuji last year and nothing was done about that. As previously mentioned, the unsafe release of Massa at Valencia was just further evidence of the prejudice.
Guess they're towing the party line but I had hoped Kimi or Massa would've come out and said something.
Kimi is a proper "racer" like Hamilton. As for Massa, well if he goes on to win the title - which I'm sure the Max and FIA will manufacture - his title will be tainted and, in my eyes, worth f**k all. Shame as he seems a decent bloke.
I've only missed one grand prix since 1998 (Canada 2002 - sad I know) but I'll be doing other things next Sunday.
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They over take people on the track, by actually passing them, not by changing tyres quicker than each other.
Or Hamilton's tyres going last year and costing him the championship, or Raikonnens tyres delaminating when he was at McLaren. Infact any breakdown ever. How about YOU bear it in mind, what would you suggest the FIA do? Anytime someone breaks down the race stops until repairs are done???
If Massa's car breaks down 3 laps from the end, its his and Ferrari's problem. Ferrari built the car and Massa drove it, if the ferrari is that highly strung or Massa is just good at lunching engines thats their problem - McLaren used to be quick as hell with no reliability (i imagine a big factor to Raikonnen leaving) - what this has to do with what happened after spa i don't know - care to explain you point, because i sure cant see it
Also, "merit" has nothing to do with it, if the roles had been reversed and Raikonnen was given the penalty for cutting the corner, i would still be irked, as its a stupid call by the FIA. As far as i can see, Ferrari got away with murder in spain - it would have been so easy for raikonnens fuel man to have been seriously hurt, or worst case, a repeat of Verstappen's pitlane fireball -yet no penalty. If the FIA are going to enforce the rulesto the letter, its a 10 place penalty for massa being released early in valencia and at the very least the same for raikonnen with a huge fine for him personally, as it was his fault - the lack of consistency and apparent bias is stupid. Im neither a fezza or a mcmerc fan btw, RBR all the way, so im not biased, i can just see when a mistake has been made.
So true.
Is it cos Lewis is Black ?
(dont think it is to be honest, but the do seem ridiculously biased)
"a ferrari fan"? how does one demonstrate their 'fan-ness' for a car? - do you point and chant 'ferrari we love' you when it goes past? do yo wear a replica ferrari kit or wave a ferrari scarf? do you chant abuse at other cars?
flummoxed of birkenhead
Er no, its not football you know
The exact same way you demonstrate you "fan-ness" for a cycling team/football team/insert any other sporting activity ever here. Not hard to understand really.
I demonstrated my "fan-ness" for Audi by watching a race for 24 hours being deafened by cars and drinking french piss water lager - thats real dedication for you. Will be doing the same this weekend but with proper beer and with proper British weather and only for 6 hours.
LM's hardly a hardship!
LM isnt a hardship, avoiding getting nicked by the gendarmes for speeding afterwards is.
Plus, the amount of large,red, english folk there makes it feel like magaluf with cars, watching the race isnt a hardship. Resisting the urge to kick Raymond in the face while he is chanting "2 world wars and 1 world cup" at french people is pretty tough.
NO WAY JOSE!!!!
you shouldnt have been driving it then-balloonhead
I do have a balloon-shaped head.
I'm posting this from the circuit!
sorry, you talkin jive bro'!
"Will be doing the same this weekend but with proper beer and with proper British weather and only for 6 hours."
Yah, was there. Laughed at the pugs for being far too french and having a distinct inability to be good. Happy to see Mcnish and Capello win, happy for the lola aston too - a proper car burning proper fuel
The only thing missing was a TVR car - the old tuscans from a few years ago used to tear the eardrums out of anything for miles around.
Aston taking GT1 and Ferrari taking GT2 - doesnt get much better, great end to the series - looking forward to LM next year, might even need to plan a sneaky sebring trip
It was our Aston that won GT1, the dang French Corvette got the title, but we were happy have won GT1 three times out of five! The Lola-Aston is a great looking car, we had the garage next door as usual.
Off to Spa in two weeks - thinking of taking the bike for a couple of Saturday evening laps.
Surely the World Cup bit of the chant isn't even relevant to the French? In '66 we won the trophy on home soil, whilst in '98, so did they; one-upmanship not valid there, methinks.
David
Oops -forgot about that; in which case the original poster's mate Raymond had got the wrong end of the stick twice over.
David
I dont know anyone called Raymond, but it seems like an appropriate name for the fat bald red english guys who read the sun that have LM confused with a football hooligan convention.
I also dont imagine they are smart enough to realize that their chant is irrelevant