Climbing on 10% gradient for 15 km...
bianchi77
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Sometimes, when I'm climbing in 10% to 15% gradient, how much power do I need for 12 km/h ? How can I maintain / train my breath ?
I lose my breath if it's long long long climb ...
Anyone has same experience with me...how to overcome that ?
I lose my breath if it's long long long climb ...
Anyone has same experience with me...how to overcome that ?
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All these questions about "how much power" can be answered by yourself by using the sites that estimate power from entering in the variables.bianchi77 wrote:Sometimes, when I'm climbing in 10% to 15% gradient, how much power do I need for 12 km/h ? How can I maintain / train my breath ?
I lose my breath if it's long long long climb ...
Anyone has same experience with me...how to overcome that ?
No one here can do that for you since we don't have all the relevant information.
go here:
http://www.analyticcycling.com/
And check out the power from speed calculator.
If climbing for that long then you are experiencing lower air density (and hence less oxygen available) at high altitudes. That can make breathing harder and certainly the ability to generate power falls as we get higher up.0 -
Alex_Simmons/RST wrote:
All these questions about "how much power" can be answered by yourself by using the sites that estimate power from entering in the variables.bianchi77 wrote:Sometimes, when I'm climbing in 10% to 15% gradient, how much power do I need for 12 km/h ? How can I maintain / train my breath ?
I lose my breath if it's long long long climb ...
Anyone has same experience with me...how to overcome that ?
No one here can do that for you since we don't have all the relevant information.
go here:
http://www.analyticcycling.com/
And check out the power from speed calculator.
If climbing for that long then you are experiencing lower air density (and hence less oxygen available) at high altitudes. That can make breathing harder and certainly the ability to generate power falls as we get higher up.
So I must practicing the power in my trainer ?
Can you suggest me what type of power trainer should I buy ?
What's the name ? How much ?0 -
bianchi77 wrote:
Just a question...where exactly is this climb which is 10-15% average for 15km?....as far as I know theres not a climb of that severity in all Europe....I just did Pico Las Nieves the steep way in Gran Canaria and it boasts a middle section of 10% average for the middle 8kms and its regarded as one of the uber climbs....I'm having a pop at the Mortirolo soon aswell and it is 10.5% avg for 12kms.....the Angliru and Zoncolon offer event steeper gradients but not for anything like 15kms?....a climb of the severity you speak off would have 90% guys off there bikes even with triples...Bwlch Y Groes and Hardknott Pass offer 15-16% averages for only a couple of Km's and destroy most riders....0 -
RICHYBOYcp wrote:bianchi77 wrote:
Just a question...where exactly is this climb which is 10-15% average for 15km?....as far as I know theres not a climb of that severity in all Europe....I just did Pico Las Nieves the steep way in Gran Canaria and it boasts a middle section of 10% average for the middle 8kms and its regarded as one of the uber climbs....I'm having a pop at the Mortirolo soon aswell and it is 10.5% avg for 12kms.....the Angliru and Zoncolon offer event steeper gradients but not for anything like 15kms?....a climb of the severity you speak off would have 90% guys off there bikes even with triples...Bwlch Y Groes and Hardknott Pass offer 15-16% averages for only a couple of Km's and destroy most riders....
I was wondering that myself and I'm from the states.
Sounds a bit much.
Dennis Noward0 -
You are already climbing at a speed that most of us would aspire to.bianchi77 wrote:It's normal if I'm out of breath...it's a hard climb for me...any solution / train to improve it ?
If you don't want to be out of breath, how about...
Practice Hill Repeats/Specificity
15km @ 12kph >>> 1hr 15mins. That's a pretty good workout. Keep practicing this and soon you should be able to go either (i) faster, or (ii) the same pace with a lower load on your breathing.Rich0 -
dennisn wrote:RICHYBOYcp wrote:bianchi77 wrote:
Just a question...where exactly is this climb which is 10-15% average for 15km?....as far as I know theres not a climb of that severity in all Europe....I just did Pico Las Nieves the steep way in Gran Canaria and it boasts a middle section of 10% average for the middle 8kms and its regarded as one of the uber climbs....I'm having a pop at the Mortirolo soon aswell and it is 10.5% avg for 12kms.....the Angliru and Zoncolon offer event steeper gradients but not for anything like 15kms?....a climb of the severity you speak off would have 90% guys off there bikes even with triples...Bwlch Y Groes and Hardknott Pass offer 15-16% averages for only a couple of Km's and destroy most riders....
I was wondering that myself and I'm from the states.
Sounds a bit much.
Dennis Noward
After re-reading it would seem that he didn't claim 15 KM(@ 10%-15%) but did say long, long, long climb. However far that is??? I mean, a mile at 10% seems long, long, long if
memory serves me right.
Dennis Noward0 -
After re-reading it would seem that he didn't claim 15 KM(@ 10%-15%) but did say long, long, long climb. However far that is??? I mean, a mile at 10% seems long, long, long if
memory serves me right.
Dennis Noward[/quote]
Look at the actual name of the Topic....
Climbing on 10% gradient for 15 km...0 -
RICHYBOYcp wrote:After re-reading it would seem that he didn't claim 15 KM(@ 10%-15%) but did say long, long, long climb. However far that is??? I mean, a mile at 10% seems long, long, long if
memory serves me right.
Dennis Noward
Look at the actual name of the Topic....
Climbing on 10% gradient for 15 km...[/quote]
Ya got me. If there was such a climb I can pretty much guarantee that my spinal column
would be laying on the road about 1/4 of the way up.
Dennis Noward0 -
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Just 12.4k @ 10.5%. Pah.Rich0
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broachboy wrote:dennisn wrote:
Nothing to it. Piece of cake.
Dennis Noward
:shock:
Dennis we're talking descending here right ?
If climbing it didn't kill me I'm sure that the speeds on the descent would SCARE the life out of me. I've been up and down a 10% grade(one mile long) and It's out of the saddle most of the way up and damn fast on the way down. Hard to imagine one like your
chart shows. Looks just plain brutal(both ways).
Dennis Noward0 -
dennisn wrote:
I'll let yoy know how it was in 6 weeks time....we are spending a week in the Dolomites and one day sees us attempt the Mortirolo from Mazzo :shock: and afterwards we have the simple task of over the Gavia from Ponte Legno...will be a very interesting day...I feel the Mortirolo will test my sould...but it will have to go a long way to supersede the Climb I recently did in in Gran Canaria...the crazy steep Pico Nieves from Carrizal...0 -
The place is called Tanjakan Pratista and Tangkuban Parahu Mountain...0
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What I know is I'm climbing form the 700m too 2000 m.....it's up and down, mostly ascending...0
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The Colle san Carlo nr. La Thuile boasts an average of 10% over 10km. It's classed as a 'chronotest' and is kindly provided with a post every km detailing elevation, av.gradient for the next km and distance to the end. The hairpins don't flatten out so you have to keep going or risk unclipping on a gradient. The climb sets out at 13% and doesn't go below 9% until the last 500m. Great descent into La Thuile tho' and if you went down the way you've come up some pro-rider was actually killed doing the descent if you are interested in that sort of thing.M.Rushton0
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mrushton wrote:The Colle san Carlo nr. La Thuile boasts an average of 10% over 10km. It's classed as a 'chronotest' and is kindly provided with a post every km detailing elevation, av.gradient for the next km and distance to the end. The hairpins don't flatten out so you have to keep going or risk unclipping on a gradient. The climb sets out at 13% and doesn't go below 9% until the last 500m. Great descent into La Thuile tho' and if you went down the way you've come up some pro-rider was actually killed doing the descent if you are interested in that sort of thing.
Where is it ? in France ?
I'm not in Europe...0 -
Head up the Aosta valley (Italy) from Aosta to Coeurmayer (Mt.Blanc) to Morgex and then turn left. You are actually on the French/Italian border so if you do the climb, drop into La Thuile then go up the Petit San Bernard you come to the border and then descend (a glorious one I may add
) into Bourg St.Maurice where you could then go left to the Iseran or right over the Cormet de Roselend M.Rushton0 -
bianchi77 wrote:The place is called Tanjakan Pratista and Tangkuban Parahu Mountain...
bianchi77 is this what your riding up...?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangkuban_Perahu
Be careful dude, I hope it don't start to erupt while your riding up :shock: :? The descent would be awesome with tons of lava chasing you :twisted: Regards
Andy B
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I found a steep climb here :
http://www.climbbybike.com/climb.asp?Col=Scanuppia---Malga-Palazzo&qryMountainID=35970 -
broachboy wrote:bianchi77 wrote:The place is called Tanjakan Pratista and Tangkuban Parahu Mountain...
bianchi77 is this what your riding up...?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangkuban_Perahu
Be careful dude, I hope it don't start to erupt while your riding up :shock: :? The descent would be awesome with tons of lava chasing you :twisted:
That's right dude, there're many "Kawah" above ....the steepest called Kawah Ratu,
I climb from Cimahi through Cisarua, Lembang,Cikole then Kawah Ratu...the summit...0 -
bianchi77 wrote:broachboy wrote:bianchi77 wrote:The place is called Tanjakan Pratista and Tangkuban Parahu Mountain...
bianchi77 is this what your riding up...?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangkuban_Perahu
Be careful dude, I hope it don't start to erupt while your riding up :shock: :? The descent would be awesome with tons of lava chasing you :twisted:
That's right dude, there're many "Kawah" above ....the steepest called Kawah Ratu,
I climb from Cimahi through Cisarua, Lembang,Cikole then Kawah Ratu...the summit...
Good luck with the training, hope your ride goes ok, let us know how you get on with it. Regards
Andy B
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broachboy wrote:bianchi77 wrote:broachboy wrote:bianchi77 wrote:The place is called Tanjakan Pratista and Tangkuban Parahu Mountain...
bianchi77 is this what your riding up...?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangkuban_Perahu
Be careful dude, I hope it don't start to erupt while your riding up :shock: :? The descent would be awesome with tons of lava chasing you :twisted:
That's right dude, there're many "Kawah" above ....the steepest called Kawah Ratu,
I climb from Cimahi through Cisarua, Lembang,Cikole then Kawah Ratu...the summit...
Good luck with the training, hope your ride goes ok, let us know how you get on with it.
I'll do the ride tommorow morning ....
Where do you ride tommorow ?
Best luck too0 -
bianchi77 wrote:What I know is I'm climbing form the 700m too 2000 m.....it's up and down, mostly ascending...
thats 1300m of climbing..
a 10% climb would have to be 13km..
a 15% climb would have to be less than 9km long
a 15km climb climbing 1300m is about 8.5% average (bloody nightmare) especially if there are negative section on it as the average must be maintained by some stiff sections
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